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Subject: Okay Okay, whats going on...?
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Alright, ever since this game was announced, alot of people thought that it would be based off of the book "Halo:The Fall of Reach". Infact, I still do.
So, what did I miss?

I mean Eveyone on this forum keeps on saying that the game starts AFTER the cheif leaves on the POA. What's the point of that? All of the sudden everyones on the same page.
What happened to everyone wanting to see the cheif as a kid with his fellow spartans? All i see now is people ruling things out because it has to do with the POA leaving before the game starts; This doesn't make sense to me.

So can someone show me the update that officially said the setting for Reach so i can shut up and not be confused?

SURSLEH!

  • 10.25.2009 5:59 PM PDT

I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

  • 10.25.2009 6:01 PM PDT

PoA did leave rather early, though...

  • 10.25.2009 6:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or phisics, let alone use their common sense.

  • 10.25.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or physics, let alone use their common sense.

Fixed, and Agreed.

  • 10.25.2009 6:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plasma3150
PoA did leave rather early, though...

I know but all i have seen since late september is people not including early reach. it doesnt make too much sense because Reach wasnt that long of a battle so ifthey did that the game would be short.

  • 10.25.2009 6:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plasma3150
Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or physics, let alone use their common sense.

Fixed, and Agreed.

Im not talking about that...
:p

  • 10.25.2009 6:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or phisics, let alone use their common sense.
Yeah, I hate how people believe that Bungie would actually send Chief back in time which is completely random and not very believable.

  • 10.25.2009 6:07 PM PDT

some people think that after halo 3 if uve seen the legendary ending that the planet they are approaching is reach and that they some how went back in time

  • 10.25.2009 6:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or phisics, let alone use their common sense.
Yeah, I hate how people believe that Bungie would actually send Chief back in time which is completely random and not very believable.

*Sigh*
Read my post again people.
Im not talking about time travel, im talking about early reach before the battle started, the game is called "Halo:Reach" not "Halo:ONLY ABOUT THE BATTLE OF REACH GUYZZZ" yet people beleive a character like cheif or foehammer cant be it it at all because the Pillar of Autumn leaves. The game should start like the book did.

  • 10.25.2009 6:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or phisics, let alone use their common sense.
Yeah, I hate how people believe that Bungie would actually send Chief back in time which is completely random and not very believable.

Anyway, even if you are able to go back in time(wich requires an emmense amount of energy), you woulden't be in the same dimention. You could, theoreticaly, jump to a dimention where grunts lead the covenant, Halo wwas never created, Adlof Hitler won WWII, or Humanity never evloved from apes.

  • 10.25.2009 6:10 PM PDT

how dare you say we evolved from brutes! lol

  • 10.25.2009 6:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
Posted by: Dustinw1
Posted by: WAR HOROR13
I haven't seen anything like this. Unless you are talking about the time travel theorys which are totally stupid.

Time travel theories are for little 8 year oldsa who know nothing of quantum mechanics or phisics, let alone use their common sense.
Yeah, I hate how people believe that Bungie would actually send Chief back in time which is completely random and not very believable.


Anyway, even if you are able to go back in time(wich requires an emmense amount of energy), you woulden't be in the same dimention. You could, theoreticaly, jump to a dimention where grunts lead the covenant, Halo wwas never created, Adlof Hitler won WWII, or Humanity never evloved from apes.

get on topic?

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  • 10.25.2009 6:15 PM PDT
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I still wanna know...

  • 10.25.2009 7:37 PM PDT

Posted by: JSpyro
I still wanna know...

The reason why? Well I suppose people finally learned that the Pillar of Autumn was only at Reach for say about 30 minutes to 1 hour. Now then how would someone like foehammer, be able to show up at Reach drop off her squads without getting shot down, and flying back up to the POA without getting shot down.
Also, sure its possible they can show what happened, when the spartans got assigned their orders, but for you to play the one mission where Master Chief destroyed a nav base, would be pointless and confusing to the storyline. In otherwards it makes way more sense not for foehammer to appear in the game, or for us to play a single mission as the master chief, but as to start as some spartan on the ground.

  • 10.25.2009 7:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: JSpyro
I still wanna know...

The reason why? Well I suppose people finally learned that the Pillar of Autumn was only at Reach for say about 30 minutes to 1 hour. Now then how would someone like foehammer, be able to show up at Reach drop off her squads without getting shot down, and flying back up to the POA without getting shot down.
Also, sure its possible they can show what happened, when the spartans got assigned their orders, but for you to play the one mission where Master Chief destroyed a nav base, would be pointless and confusing to the storyline. In otherwards it makes way more sense not for foehammer to appear in the game, or for us to play a single mission as the master chief, but as to start as some spartan on the ground.


This is basically the gist of it. Of course, it's all speculation. My opinion is that it will focus on the events on Reach after the POA left, then lead into the events of First Strike.

  • 10.25.2009 8:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: JSpyro
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How about there was never any evidence to support Halo: Reach being based on the book Halo: The Fall of Reach beyond them both having "Reach" in the title?

  • 10.25.2009 8:30 PM PDT

Not to mention in the book, first strike. It is of the end of Halo 1 with them returning to reach.

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  • 10.25.2009 8:37 PM PDT

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Correct me if I'm mistaken... but haven't Bungie CONFIRMED that Reach will be a PREQUEL?

Hence it would happen BEFORE Halo:CE. Therefore it should not include the events of First Strike.

Also, it would seem (due to a recent interview) that Reach is going to be epic... as in it's going to rival Uncharted 2. AND it's going to be Bungie's final Halo game... which they've been working on for, what, 5 years?

So, all of this said, would it not make sense to put this game into the scope of the entirety of the events at Reach? By which I mean follow the progression of the SPARTAN program from the very start and follow through until Reach gets glassed. That, to me, seems to be the direction this game should be taking.

  • 10.25.2009 8:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: tusunegia567
Posted by: JSpyro
I still wanna know...

The reason why? Well I suppose people finally learned that the Pillar of Autumn was only at Reach for say about 30 minutes to 1 hour. Now then how would someone like foehammer, be able to show up at Reach drop off her squads without getting shot down, and flying back up to the POA without getting shot down.
Also, sure its possible they can show what happened, when the spartans got assigned their orders, but for you to play the one mission where Master Chief destroyed a nav base, would be pointless and confusing to the storyline. In otherwards it makes way more sense not for foehammer to appear in the game, or for us to play a single mission as the master chief, but as to start as some spartan on the ground.

Finally a logical answer.
Well I suppose we should still get a long Intro of his childhood in training and hopefully at least ONE training level as a young spartan then it says...
*BlahBlah years later..*

  • 10.25.2009 8:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: bleed4m3
Correct me if I'm mistaken... but haven't Bungie CONFIRMED that Reach will be a PREQUEL?

Hence it would happen BEFORE Halo:CE. Therefore it should not include the events of First Strike.

Also, it would seem (due to a recent interview) that Reach is going to be epic... as in it's going to rival Uncharted 2. AND it's going to be Bungie's final Halo game... which they've been working on for, what, 5 years?

So, all of this said, would it not make sense to put this game into the scope of the entirety of the events at Reach? By which I mean follow the progression of the SPARTAN program from the very start and follow through until Reach gets glassed. That, to me, seems to be the direction this game should be taking.

That was my exact out look of the game when i posted this thread!

  • 10.25.2009 8:49 PM PDT

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I would like to add that a significant portion of First Strike takes place before Halo 1.

  • 10.25.2009 8:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: JSpyro
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How about there was never any evidence to support Halo: Reach being based on the book Halo: The Fall of Reach beyond them both having "Reach" in the title?


The book is widely accepted as Halo canon. Consider it official.

Whether or not it follows the book front to back is a different matter. It would not make sense to me for it to, because these games focus more on action. Much of what happened in the book would not work well for gameplay, unless you wanted an hour of a cutscene up to their first mission.

The battle of Reach is only one part, granted a large part. But to think that the game will focus solely on such a short event is absurd. The campaigns aren't long enough as it is. Take away all of your subject matter and you're left with 2 or 3 levels.

  • 10.25.2009 8:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: EldritchWarlord
I would like to add that a significant portion of First Strike takes place before Halo 1.

You know, he does have a point. And besides, what would be cool is if they made a slight remake of Halo: CE as well!! So then we could have it updated...making it a long ass game. And if its been working on for 5 years!!! There is no way this is going to be a short game! I mean come on! My theory is, that it will record a little bit of parts, like the training, or the 1st mission the spartans did, when they assaulted the Insurrectionists! All I'm saying is, with work like this, I bet it will have some training events you have to do during the very beginning of the game. Then put you out as your traveling through slipspace, to go capture a coventant ship and you get the distress signal that Reach is being attacked, then you head back. Another suggestion is that it may be in non-chronilogical order!!! LIke ODST almost. You'll have random flash backs and what not...you may not even see the Chief in the game. 1 thing is certain though, there is no way it's going to be Halo 4 following the events of Halo 3, because did you not see the end?? THE WAR IS OVER!!! AND ALL OF REACH HAS BEEN GLASSED FOR MANY MONTHS!!! THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!! but yea, you get my reasoning, this is super voicing my opinion.

  • 10.25.2009 9:03 PM PDT