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Subject: Halo 3 BS must not continue to Reach

Eh, Halo 2 had a couple of maps that I miss. Thats all, the hit registration only happens with really laggy games and the equipment is solved by playing customs.

  • 10.26.2009 9:26 AM PDT

My shots only register 42% of the time. In Halo 2 all of my shots register and I can go 25+ in a Snipers match because my headshot actually register.

  • 10.26.2009 9:39 AM PDT

Posted by: Swamptik
Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: Jgraten
Halo 3 beats Halo 2 in many ways.
-Single story
-24 Carefully thought out maps, imo


OPINION Halo 2 had a better storyline and better multiplayer maps.


Fixed.


You must of started playing Halo when Halo 3 came out. Halo 2 days were the funnest days to be had in my video gaming history.

Is it still considered an opinion if 100% of the population agrees?

  • 10.26.2009 9:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: ScoutedSoldier
My shots only register 42% of the time. In Halo 2 all of my shots register and I can go 25+ in a Snipers match because my headshot actually register.
In halo 2 your shots register in snipers because of the massive amount of auto-aim applied to that weapon. All you have to do in Halo 2 is think of the enemy and you get a headshot. In Halo 3 you actually have to aim the sniper rifle.

Your problem is not with the netcode in Halo 3. You just can't aim.

  • 10.26.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Posted by: ScoutedSoldier
All you have to do in Halo 2 is think of the enemy and you get a headshot. In Halo 3 you actually have to aim the sniper rifle.


lol very true. You could shoot like a foot to the side of an enemy's head and get a headshot.

  • 10.26.2009 9:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: Swamptik
Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: Jgraten
Halo 3 beats Halo 2 in many ways.
-Single story
-24 Carefully thought out maps, imo


OPINION Halo 2 had a better storyline and better multiplayer maps.


Fixed.
It isn't opinion if it's true though, Halo 2 had the most fun and balanced maps in the entire trilogy. Headlong, Lockout, Midship, Coagulation, Waterworks, Sanctuary, etc. All of those are classics.

Halo 3's maps while decent, are underwhelming and were not entirely well designed. Equipment is way to common, and maps like Isolation, Snowbound, and Epitaph are universally hated by the community. Most of Halo 3's maps are not fun due to the fact that the first 30 seconds play out exactly the same everytime (Valhalla, The Pit, Guardian).

As for story, Halo 2 did infact have a better story thanks to the Arbiter being a playable character. Halo 3's story was the worst in the series so far.


Nearly everything you have said on this thread has been an opinion, saying its true does not make it so.
I never said that Halo 2's story was worse or better than Halo 3's. I simply said Halo 3's was a single story, and implied it was less confusing to other fans out there from that. And someone said something about intoducing more culture about the covenant? Halo 3 does that too, as well as throwing in a couple well needed deaths. Think about both story lines, both sets of maps, I never said one beat the other, because in fact, it would be a matter of opinion only. I personally love alot of H2 maps, but I find that H3's are more balanced and competetive, while lacking in fun stratehies to play the map. There were tons of fun ways to tackle Terminal, Longshore, Headlong, and Tombstone. I just don't get those great feelings playing on High Ground, Longshore, and Sandtrap.

  • 10.26.2009 11:01 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Didn't take the time to read everyone's posts but I'm almost positive someone already corrected you. Halo 2 has WAY more BS. Sword cancels? Extreme Plasma Pistol homing? SUPER BOUNCES??? At least in Halo 3, the problems are distributed amongst everyone.

  • 10.26.2009 11:06 AM PDT

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OP, Halo2 was riddled with just as many connection issues as Halo3, that is the nature of online gaming. There are some issues that do happen over LAN that need to be addressed, and the MM netcode could use a little work, but these things will not repair LAG, even dedicated servers cannot do that (though people here certainly seem to think so).

  • 10.26.2009 11:21 AM PDT

Im not lying when i say this but the BS is both Live and LAN
ive got videos from LANs with me sniping and getting blood shots constantly or my bullets and melees still not regristering
Its probally me because im a BS magnet but how so if its LAN?
cant further my competitive experince without it being held back from faults and bugs in the games programming
so i believe its not the connection its the game itself

[Edited on 10.26.2009 11:56 AM PDT]

  • 10.26.2009 11:56 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: klegs iz beast
Im not lying when i say this but the BS is both Live and LAN
ive got videos from LANs with me sniping and getting blood shots constantly or my bullets and melees still not regristering
Its probally me because im a BS magnet but how so if its LAN?
cant further my competitive experince without it being held back from faults and bugs in the games programming
so i believe its not the connection its the game itself

You guys realize that the folks at Bungie work their freeken asses off to avoid problems like this. They practically spend more time debugging then they do creating. What you get is what you get. But saying Halo 2 had it better then 3 is completely absurd and clearly, you guys are just out of your minds.

  • 10.26.2009 12:01 PM PDT

Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: Swamptik
Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: Jgraten
Halo 3 beats Halo 2 in many ways.
-Single story
-24 Carefully thought out maps, imo


OPINION Halo 2 had a better storyline and better multiplayer maps.


Fixed.
It isn't opinion if it's true though, Halo 2 had the most fun and balanced maps in the entire trilogy. Headlong, Lockout, Midship, Coagulation, Waterworks, Sanctuary, etc. All of those are classics.

Halo 3's maps while decent, are underwhelming and were not entirely well designed. Equipment is way to common, and maps like Isolation, Snowbound, and Epitaph are universally hated by the community. Most of Halo 3's maps are not fun due to the fact that the first 30 seconds play out exactly the same everytime (Valhalla, The Pit, Guardian).

As for story, Halo 2 did infact have a better story thanks to the Arbiter being a playable character. Halo 3's story was the worst in the series so far.


while i do agree that halo 2 is far superior, it is still just an opinion. in his opinion halo 3 was better, you cant say as a fact that halo 2 is better cause liking something is all a matter of opinion.

now i do agree that there are some stupid things that happen but most of it is usually your connection. it happens to me, i could be playing and suddenly the game gets laggy, turns out my connection needed to be reset, i reset, it works.

  • 10.26.2009 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheCyberFreak
In Halo 3 you actually have to aim the sniper rifle.

no, you dont. When you shoot the sniper rifle, you are essentially shooting a mongoose from a gun that can fling it across the map. you could shoot a meter from a guys body and it still hits. In Halo 2, you need to be almost spot on(prepatch) and postpatch you needed to be close, about a foot.

[Edited on 10.26.2009 12:46 PM PDT]

  • 10.26.2009 12:45 PM PDT

keep it secret, keep it safe.

if u want seriously good latency times(lag) go lone wolves and hit "prefer good connection" then you should get almost perfect games with no lag, but it takes bit longer to search matches.

  • 10.26.2009 12:48 PM PDT

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Well of COURSE it doesn't happen on a LAN. In any online game where multiple users are attempting to connect to each other there is going to be issues. It's not going to be perfect

  • 10.26.2009 12:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Sp Tr4gEdY
I know most of you can agree that too much bs happens in Halo 3.

This can be due to forms of lag, poor servers, or whatever. But this bs doesn't happen in a local game or a LAN.

Well, Bungie needs to do something in Halo: Reach to fix this problem because I know plenty of players who dislike Halo 3 because of the hit registration issues. Some even quit the game.

If Bungie wants to get more money and interest, they must act to fix the hit registration and lag issues that (their?) servers and equipment cause.

If you ask any Halo layer they will say that Halo 2 is better than Halo 3. You ask why. They say because there was less bs.

Respond please.


1. Bungie does not use servers, instead they designate a player in the game to be the host.

2. If so many players are quitting Halo 3, why do so many players still play Halo 3. Its still number one after two years on the XBL charts compared to COD 4 and COD Proof

3. lag is non existent on LAN games because: YOU"RE NOT PLAYING SOMEONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. Clearly you can't blame Bungie for the poor connectivity of some fiber optic connections.

4. Finally, hit registration was addressed following Halo 2 and improved for Halo 3.

  • 10.26.2009 1:05 PM PDT

Posted by: justdie20
they used servers in GOW 2.

And GOW2 has the worst lag I have ever seen.

  • 10.26.2009 1:11 PM PDT

Lag will still happen, no matter what you do. Whether it be Servers or Hosts.

  • 10.26.2009 1:14 PM PDT

you kids are idiots if you belivee, this guy is talking about lag, he's not if you freaking play this game you realize that shots dont register because its a poorly designed game in comparison to halo 2. you have to lead your shots and the br is a random spread, and if you ever play on lan, there is definitely bs, just not as much, but enough to know that bungie rushed this game.

  • 10.26.2009 1:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Katana Master
It's not bungies fault you lag in a game. It's your crappy connection. Jesus i hate when people -blam!- about this so called 'problem'.
its not lag, its that bungie made a bad game where shots dont register, do any of you kids use a br or just play social slayer all day?

  • 10.26.2009 1:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Archerbro74
Posted by: Katana Master
It's not bungies fault you lag in a game. It's your crappy connection. Jesus i hate when people -blam!- about this so called 'problem'.
its not lag, its that bungie made a bad game where shots dont register, do any of you kids use a br or just play social slayer all day?

I think that this post is funny.

  • 10.26.2009 1:29 PM PDT

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The most annoying thing about Halo 3 is that it doesn't counter lag, it just hides it. I would rather see any lag that happens then just get the result of it. Then I know that it was lag and not some extremely strange glitch or someone cheating. Halo 3 also needs to fix the way things register when they hit. If the player firing scores a hit, then they score a hit not if the host sees a hit.

  • 10.26.2009 1:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: XxXAlesanaXxX

Is it still considered an opinion if 100% of the population agrees?


Yes, "better" is not quantifiable and is therefore opinion.

It would however be a fact to say that Halo 2 is widely considered to have a better story than Halo 3.

  • 10.26.2009 5:46 PM PDT

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I will also throw in that I thought Halo 2's story was better (Arbiter story FTW).

But the hit-registration and things like that I haven't noticed to be very bad at all, even in most good connection BTB matches. Even if it does have it's flaws I've seen the same problems arise in all the popular LIVE shooters that I've played.

  • 10.26.2009 6:06 PM PDT

Its always great when 12 year old kids that learnd Bungie makes the game and found their website think that it is bungies problem that their parents only pay for K-mart connect.
Lag is not bungies problem, lag is your problem and if can't deal with it, Ask your mom for a high speed internet connection.

  • 10.26.2009 6:11 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
high ground? sucks. terminal? hell yea!
Terminal sucks. High Ground doesn't.

I hope that Bungie can make their online functionality stronger too. It's not easy though. Don't you wish the companies shared code? After one good game gets a good online functionality, everyone would have it and improve it.

  • 10.26.2009 6:23 PM PDT

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