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Subject: spartan laser

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  • 10.26.2009 6:24 PM PDT

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Well I think it should be replaced by the M99 Stanchion gauss rifle. Here's a description of it: The weapon, a two meter long tube of linked magnetic coils, accelerated small projectiles at very high speed.

  • 10.26.2009 6:24 PM PDT

so basically the guass warthog turrent just made into a shoulder fired direct weapon if i understand correctly

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  • 10.26.2009 6:26 PM PDT

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Well no and yes. The gauss turret on the Warthog was kind of like the Splazer. This is more like a rifle version of a MAC cannon.

  • 10.26.2009 6:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: cerberous226
Well I think it should be replaced by the M99 Stanchion gauss rifle. Here's a description of it: The weapon, a two meter long tube of linked magnetic coils, accelerated small projectiles at very high speed.


That's an anti-material rifle, and an anti-personnel sniper rifle in a pinch. If you hit the canopy on a Scorpion or Wraith just right you might kill the driver but that's the extent of its anti-armor capabilities.

EDIT: And FYI, an M99 Stanchion is a smaller version of a guass turret.

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  • 10.26.2009 6:30 PM PDT

ok wait shoulder fired or handheld and i a good idea but may be too much recoil which may solve the whole balance of the splazer

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  • 10.26.2009 6:30 PM PDT

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What Ive read in Contact Harvest made me believe that it does not have as much recoil as you'd think but I dont know. Maybe...

  • 10.26.2009 6:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
You know, my American History book never mentioned Australia, so it must not have existed back then.

Cause an AMERICAN History book would talk about Australia. Try a world history book.

  • 10.26.2009 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: NY EL1T3 312
ok wait shoulder fired or handheld and i a good idea but may be too much recoil which may solve the whole balance of the splazer


It's like a very large rifle.

Educate yourself.

  • 10.26.2009 6:33 PM PDT

i mean an anti material rifle that with enough skill could point blank stop a scorpian driver in his tracks would be awesome and would love it over a new laser

  • 10.26.2009 6:34 PM PDT

Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: NY EL1T3 312
ok wait shoulder fired or handheld and i a good idea but may be too much recoil which may solve the whole balance of the splazer


It's like a very large rifle.

Educate yourself.


thanks but its not that big its looks maybe like its 3-4 inches longer than the standard sniper rifle from halo 3

  • 10.26.2009 6:36 PM PDT

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Yeah basically its just a super version of the Barett .50 cal.

  • 10.26.2009 6:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: NY EL1T3 312
i mean an anti material rifle that with enough skill could point blank stop a scorpian driver in his tracks would be awesome and would love it over a new laser


But that tiny bullet would realistically just ricochet or impact harmlessly on that reinforced canopy 9 times out of 10.

It might be a neat weapon but it's certainly no Sp'laser analog, what with it being ineffective against anything more heavily armored than a Mongoose.

  • 10.26.2009 6:39 PM PDT

ok now that the laser deliemma is done now lets talk how to improve the assult rifle so its actually usable at high medium range and make it more like an actual assult rifle if i know the definition correctly

  • 10.26.2009 6:39 PM PDT

Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: NY EL1T3 312
i mean an anti material rifle that with enough skill could point blank stop a scorpian driver in his tracks would be awesome and would love it over a new laser


But that tiny bullet would realistically just ricochet or impact harmlessly on that reinforced canopy 9 times out of 10.

It might be a neat weapon but it's certainly no Sp'laser analog, what with it being ineffective against anything more heavily armored than a Mongoose.


true but if these mlg guys think there so good why don't they try this but it could take down a warthog pretty easily too if i read correctly what you sent me

  • 10.26.2009 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: NY EL1T3 312
but i didn't like how once you pick it up you pretty much run the whole map and can laser a guys from your base to his


This is what I meant by the "vehicle vs anti-vehicle weapon balance."

With the spartan laser, there is no balance. If you have one, all the vehicles are dead until you are out of ammo. And once you are out of ammo, all your infantry are dead until it spawns again. Rocket launchers and sticky grenades are nice, but most smart drivers don't get close enough for you to be able to use them effectively, and the missle pod not only has very low ammo but also tends to get burned all on one target because people are idiots.


I really agree with you. Infact, I made a thread that talks about this too. Here's part of it:
This weapon kind of kills the joy of vehicle combat. Once someone has it, consider the vehicles destroyed. So I've come out to three options:

Option A: Make the Spartan Laser like a Sentinal Beam on steroids. What I mean is that when it charges (which should also be longer), it fires in a continous beam that is enough to put reasonable damage (2/3) to a vehicle, but to actually inflict the full 2/3 damage, you have to keep the beam to the vehicle. While this sounds easy, the beam's accuracy starts to dramatically decreases reasonably with added recoil. And it should only contain 4-6 shots.

Option B: Take it out completely and add lock-on to the rocket launcher. Not Halo 2 Lock-on, but a lock on that'll home in but then if a vehicle makes a quick move, it will lose track of it and not hit it. But their should be no indicator to the vehicle if the rockets are locked on.

Option C: Make an entirely different anti-air vehicle.


Yeah and if you wanna see the full thread on weapon balancing, here's the link: Halo Reach Weapons and Balancing

  • 10.26.2009 6:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: NY EL1T3 312

true but if these mlg guys think there so good why don't they try this but it could take down a warthog pretty easily too if i read correctly what you sent me


Well, Warthogs are actually pretty well armored. It's still quite light but a Stanchion wouldn't penetrate reliably. But it would punch through the windshield better than the sniper rifle.

But I've been on both ends of a tank spree and I can tell you the Sp'laser doesn't need nerfing against them.

I disagree that the Sp'laser needs nerfing at all really, the charge time and very limited number of shots balance it very well I think. It's not like a Sp'laser turns vehicles into death traps, and it's not like vehicles are meant to be indestructible killing spree magnets either.

  • 10.26.2009 6:55 PM PDT

If somebody's opinion is being smashed and nobody's helping, I try and help. I use logic and extensive vocabulary (and sometimes self-destructive circular reasoning) to confuse my enemies into submission. Fear me, trolling, fapping creatures of the night. For I. Am your worst nightmare.

I agree with you completely Warlord. But the Stanchion was described as a miniature MAC gun and Staten said it punched through two office buildings and still had enough force to completely obliterate the part that the bullet impacted on.

  • 10.26.2009 7:01 PM PDT

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