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Subject: Why Halo CE beats Halo 3: ODST

Posted by: nesteggfailure
ODST is a nice nugget, no disagreement here. But it's a compact little piece that gives us what we all wanted: More Halo. It's beautifully great. But beyond that, people that slam H-2 tend to talk in generalities. Yes, your shields fall far quicker. That's part of the thing. 'No immersion beyond the sentinel wall..' What ? I found Delta Halo and Outskirts (Best Halo level ever) to be pretty darn compelling.
I never, once, found myself thinking I could actually be in the levels. The Sentinel Wall creeped me out, and that was the total extent.
I just don't see the "repetitive" nature of vehicle boarding/assaultingDoes not happen often, as the vehicles don't give anyone worth half a damn a chance.
and all the various enemies: Brutes, Honor Guards, Fuel rod Grunts, Invisible Flood, Hunters, Drones, Jackal Snipers, Flood that are impervious to melee... First off, the only invisible Flood were in Halo: CE, that I know of. Second, the enemies were either boring, or a pain to fight. Jackals were now annoying, as you could not hit them through their shields, Grunts were stupid, Brutes were boring to fight, Elites were slightly less boring, Drones were an absolute pain, Hunters were a pain, Honor Guards were just regular enemies with fancy clothes, and the Fuel Rod Cannon was completely nerfed. Flood were essentially the exact same, except you couldn't melee them. Even the small ones.
What do you people want ?Fun.

  • 11.14.2009 9:40 PM PDT
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I don't think you've played enough H-2, chickenlittle. Seriously, there is nothing but Halo greatness there. Unlike H-3, one can board every vehicle except the Banshees on Delta Halo (Which I admit, is lame....but...) I've boarded everything else in the game. Will take many tries, but it is possible. And second off, there are invisible Flood...the last sequence in which you're Chief...there are quite a few invisible Flood. I most guar-ohn-tee it. Nasty. And if this all weren't enough somehow, you get to be the Arbiter, with temporary active cammo...adds so much to the gameplay. Figuring out when and how to use the cammo...so much fun. H-2 delivers. Give it a chance...it's not CE, but, what is ?

  • 11.15.2009 8:18 PM PDT

Posted by: nesteggfailure
I don't think you've played enough H-2, chickenlittle.
I count 50+ hours in just Campaign for a shooter quite a lot.
Seriously, there is nothing but Halo greatness there.lol
Unlike H-3, one can board every vehicle except the Banshees on Delta Halo (Which I admit, is lame....but...) I've boarded everything else in the game. Will take many tries, but it is possible.That's nice. Did any of this, excluding the odd Wraith and stranding at high heights, bring along any practical use for progressing? Any? No? Exactly.
And second off, there are invisible Flood...the last sequence in which you're Chief...there are quite a few invisible Flood. I most guar-ohn-tee it. Nasty.I stayed alive fighting the Flood for about 15 minutes at that point, Easy, Normal, Heroic. I have yet to fight any invisible Flood. Just the ones that jump down or fire from above.
And if this all weren't enough somehow, you get to be the Arbiter, with temporary active cammo...adds so much to the gameplay. Figuring out when and how to use the cammo...so much fun.To me, the Active Camoflouge didn't help much. Not because I couldn't use it, but I had no real application for it outside a few isolated stealth areas that could easily be done without it. It didn't last long enough to bypass large groups entirely, and disappeared as soon as I was attacked.
H-2 delivers.Nope.
Give it a chance...I did, many times, it blew it.
it's not CE, but, what is ? Halo: CE.

:3

  • 11.15.2009 8:35 PM PDT
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Can you believe it?

Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: nesteggfailure

And second off, there are invisible Flood...the last sequence in which you're Chief...there are quite a few invisible Flood. I most guar-ohn-tee it. Nasty.
I stayed alive fighting the Flood for about 15 minutes at that point, Easy, Normal, Heroic. I have yet to fight any invisible Flood. Just the ones that jump down or fire from above.

They only spawn on Legendary.

[Edited on 11.16.2009 12:28 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2009 12:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Blade967
Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: nesteggfailure

And second off, there are invisible Flood...the last sequence in which you're Chief...there are quite a few invisible Flood. I most guar-ohn-tee it. Nasty.
I stayed alive fighting the Flood for about 15 minutes at that point, Easy, Normal, Heroic. I have yet to fight any invisible Flood. Just the ones that jump down or fire from above.

They only spawn on Legendary.
FUUUUUUUUU-

  • 11.16.2009 10:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Blade967
Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: nesteggfailure

And second off, there are invisible Flood...the last sequence in which you're Chief...there are quite a few invisible Flood. I most guar-ohn-tee it. Nasty.
I stayed alive fighting the Flood for about 15 minutes at that point, Easy, Normal, Heroic. I have yet to fight any invisible Flood. Just the ones that jump down or fire from above.

They only spawn on Legendary.
FUUUUUUUUU-

Bam.
Thanks Blade967. You've obviously done your H-2.

  • 11.18.2009 8:56 PM PDT

I didn't bother beating Halo 2 on Legendary. No reward for a ton of pain.

  • 11.18.2009 10:29 PM PDT
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Well that's pretty obvious and I'm sure every HALO fan agrees. If you don't agree that Halo CE > Halo 3 > Halo ODST > Halo2 then you don't deserve Halo CE and you probubly use the BR. Fail!

  • 11.19.2009 1:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Caboose153
Well that's pretty obvious and I'm sure every HALO fan agrees. If you don't agree that Halo CE > Halo 3 > Halo ODST > Halo2 then you don't deserve Halo CE and you probubly use the BR. Fail!
I use the BR.

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  • 11.20.2009 12:27 AM PDT
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Did anyone ever get the Scarab killing plasma rifle on Halo 2?
There is nothing like it in any Halo game. It's difficult to obtain but unbelievable to use!!

Halo CE is best for story and gameplay bar none!

ODST's film noir music on the Mombasa Streets is insightful and sets the perfect tone for the Rookie's gameplay. Kudos for bringing back the scoped pistol. When used with the plasma pistol, taking out Brutes with headshots is great gameplay. Firefight is cool at first but gets old fast.

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  • 11.20.2009 3:30 AM PDT
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Grumpy can provide all answers. Enough said.
Yeah, music was an awesome highlight.
I agree totally. Firefight was a great little diversion as one tried to get the achievements. After a while, was Horde all over.
CE was a great start.

  • 11.21.2009 6:41 PM PDT

hmmmm... Halo CE was definetly better than halo 2 and in my opinion iz better than halo 3... so I guess your right, I miss owning hunters with pistol headshots

  • 11.27.2009 11:57 PM PDT

Posted by: TwilightStar89
hmmmm... Halo CE was definetly better than halo 2 and in my opinion iz better than halo 3... so I guess your right, I miss owning hunters with pistol headshots
What about his right?

And you didn't headshot Hunters unless you were an idiot.

  • 11.28.2009 12:29 AM PDT
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I've played all the Halo games to their full extent so let me say my opinion:

Halo CE: Very original for its time. Great storyline which is beautifully structured, great graphics and great gameplay. Voices and characters are loveable and funny, and baddies are plenty and challenging. Multiplayer is fun with good friends, and only gets old when you get old. Music is spectacular

Halo 2: Great campaign and great soundtrack. However, towards the middle of the game it loses pace and the epicness of exploring another ring while at the same time doing something else as a different character is lost because it either happens too fast or too slow. However, having many levels, as well as the difficulty makes it the longest Halo game. Yet, having precarious snipers and invincible flood makes the challenge too great at times. Music is great, but some songs are out of place. Dual wielding needlers is also fun, and brute plasma rifles are a nice addition

Halo 3: Upon playing this, the first thing that i noticed was the graphics and polished CG cinematics. I liked them, but they didn't immerse me in the game like the previous ones did. They were too movie like. The levels were nice and interesting to play, however, there weren't that many of them, and they didn't set the atmosphere that i was fighting for humanity and the galaxy in this game. and unlike Halo 2's last level, this game was void of a boss battle, which most games should have. The only level i enjoyed was The Ark, which my disc now refuses to play. The level design coupled with music is brilliant, more so than Halo 2's, and equipment makes for some interesting tactics, especially with deployable cover. Music is also great, but falls short of halo 2's main tracks. I love farthest outpost though

Halo 3 ODST: This game is purely brilliant, and if it had matchmaking or an ODST style multiplayer, i'm sure it would surpass Halo 3. The music was phenomenal--absolutely nothing wrong. The atmosphere was beautiful, and the gameplay was sound and fun. The campaign should have been 4 levels longer, but other than that i can't speak bad about ODST. The only problem is the levels are too short, and nobody plays ODST, so co-op matches are almost never available. new tech like the map, compass, and VISR are fun to use, and having a sense of vulnerability means a change of pace and tactic that rarely slows down the gameplay. And driving a tank through a city? epic. However, it borrowed too many elements from other Halo games. For instance, it had a tank level, a warthog level, and a level where you go through winding corridors of some sort encountering enemies. this is seen in all games:


The library
High Charity
Cortana
Data Hive

one thing Halo 2 does differently than the other games is have a spectre and wraith section at the end of the game, instead of warthogs. I also loved Uprising and Great Journey in Halo 2. My favorite level in ODST is Coastal Highway and Kizingo Boulevard. I also like the idea of having a HUB where you can choose which mission you want to access, whilst fighting enemies. This on mythic difficulty is essentially firefight all across a city, which is hella fun!


My personal rating?

Campaign for co-op play
ODST
CE
Halo 2
Halo 3

Multiplayer
Halo 3
ODST
CE
Halo 2

Music
ODST
CE
Halo 2
Halo 3

Guns
ODST
Halo 2
CE
Halo 3

so yea, that's my opinion
I also preferred the rocket launcher from halo 2 to the crappy missle pod we have now. The SLaser is garbage, and the fuel rod and sentinel beam are overlooked. The needler also sucks in Halo 3. Vehicle combat is often interrupted by lasers and missile pods, and banshees got nerfed from Halo 2. Bogus!

I love ODST


[Edited on 11.28.2009 1:47 AM PST]

  • 11.28.2009 1:41 AM PDT

halo CE is the best halo game ever

  • 11.28.2009 11:41 AM PDT

Queen is awesome.

Posted by: Vespera34

I'm gonna have to respectully disagree with you.

  • 12.06.2009 4:55 PM PDT

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