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Subject: should some type of water vehicle be added to halo

Poll: should some type of water vehicle be added to halo  [closed]
yes:  19%
(19 Votes)
yes, a slower moving craft like a hover boat:  7%
(7 Votes)
yes, some type of speedy vehicle like a jetski:  14%
(14 Votes)
yes, an underwater transport like a sub:  11%
(11 Votes)
all of the abover:  32%
(32 Votes)
no:  17%
(17 Votes)
Total Votes: 100

i say yes it give halo new ground to cover. but mainly something like a jetski or a hoverboat

  • 10.27.2009 3:13 PM PDT

poop

yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE

  • 10.27.2009 3:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Nicke Sw3
yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE


so you think swimming will be a must, though the only problem i see is a 4.5 ton spartan trying to swim

  • 10.27.2009 3:16 PM PDT

poop

Posted by: ROF Inferno
Posted by: Nicke Sw3
yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE


so you think swimming will be a must, though the only problem i see is a 4.5 ton spartan trying to swim

I dont mean a map with nothing else than water, just so that you can go from one base to another in a boat. and with a couple of vehicles on the ground.

  • 10.27.2009 3:22 PM PDT

Yes, really

banshees function underwater. can boost, do banshee tricks, and shoot up to 10 feet underwater.

dont believe me? play the level kikowani station on ODST and try it yourself.

  • 10.27.2009 3:24 PM PDT

it would be good to see a gunboat, that or make it so that the covenant vehicles can hover over water

  • 10.27.2009 3:35 PM PDT

only thing is if soilders cant swim it be kinda hard to have fights on water.

  • 10.28.2009 10:12 AM PDT
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Where'd you pull that number out of? 4.5tons? In the books it clearly states they weigh around a ton. Roughly 1.6k pounds for the armor and 400 on average for the spartan due to their denser muscle and added skeletal weight.

  • 10.28.2009 10:31 AM PDT
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in a practical way, air vehicle > water vehicles.
in a realistic point of view, air > water.

since reach is totally under UNSC control, they don't need submarines to ambush enemy water vehicles.
and when invading a planet, why bother using water based vehicles when you can just drop from orbit or use dropships?

no matter what angle you look at this problem from, it's just not realistic or even a good idea...

  • 10.28.2009 10:45 AM PDT

Hey

A submarine type vehicle would be really cool.

  • 10.28.2009 10:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Altered Trance
Where'd you pull that number out of? 4.5tons? In the books it clearly states they weigh around a ton. Roughly 1.6k pounds for the armor and 400 on average for the spartan due to their denser muscle and added skeletal weight.


Actually it is clearly indicated in practically every book or game that has Spartans that an armored Spartan weighs half a ton.

  • 10.28.2009 11:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
in a practical way, air vehicle > water vehicles.
in a realistic point of view, air > water.

since reach is totally under UNSC control, they don't need submarines to ambush enemy water vehicles.
and when invading a planet, why bother using water based vehicles when you can just drop from orbit or use dropships?

no matter what angle you look at this problem from, it's just not realistic or even a good idea...


You see, the thing about "why bother?" is that you often are unable or find it inadvisable to do the "clearly superior" alternative.

Example: Why bother with infantry when you can just blast things from orbit?

Or for a more relevant example: Why do Navy Seals use assault boats when they could get there quicker by helicopter?

  • 10.28.2009 11:07 AM PDT
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idk why anybody would NOT want a water vehicle and if you ask me halo really needs some new material cuz every game you fight the same stuff with the same weapons. yes odst had a new enemy (the engineer) but really the engineers are just annoying and yes they had silencers on two weapons but still nothing has really changed

  • 10.28.2009 11:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: z0rgy
in a practical way, air vehicle > water vehicles.
in a realistic point of view, air > water.

since reach is totally under UNSC control, they don't need submarines to ambush enemy water vehicles.
and when invading a planet, why bother using water based vehicles when you can just drop from orbit or use dropships?

no matter what angle you look at this problem from, it's just not realistic or even a good idea...


You see, the thing about "why bother?" is that you often are unable or find it inadvisable to do the "clearly superior" alternative.

Example: Why bother with infantry when you can just blast things from orbit?

Or for a more relevant example: Why do Navy Seals use assault boats when they could get there quicker by helicopter?


why bother with infantry : to capture key locations, keep intel intact, etc. also, not everybody can man a space cannon, and they would cost too much to be mass produced.
and the seals use boats to infiltrate. it makes less sound and is less visible than a helicopter.

  • 10.28.2009 11:51 AM PDT

For everyone who is saying the UNSC wouldn't use boats and ships look at the sea next time you play on Longshore. There are clearly aircraft carriers and battleships.

  • 10.28.2009 11:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Nicke Sw3
Posted by: ROF Inferno
Posted by: Nicke Sw3
yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE


so you think swimming will be a must, though the only problem i see is a 4.5 ton spartan trying to swim

I dont mean a map with nothing else than water, just so that you can go from one base to another in a boat. and with a couple of vehicles on the ground.


Actually, there could be a map where we are at sea and have two bases, which are elephant type vehicles, but built for the sea. I shall call these 'Whales'. Whales would contain your speed boats and dinghys. There would be mounted turrets for people to get on and shoot and missiles that shoot from under the water.

  • 10.28.2009 12:04 PM PDT

Big Team Battle Multiflag/Slayer on Standoff/Valhalla/Sandtrap/Avalanche = Win

A carrier is everything you could ever ask for in a water based vehicle... except it flies and kicks more ass.

  • 10.28.2009 12:06 PM PDT

Dang I voted before I saw the "all the above" button!

  • 10.28.2009 12:07 PM PDT
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UNSC does have carriers ive seen them there even on a map. and i think like a boat/jet ski thing would be cool. because jet ski serves as the water mongoose. and the boat would severe as like a warthog in the water a machine gun and decently fast but can still be destroyed easily

  • 10.28.2009 12:16 PM PDT

Da Husk.

i want an elephant boat

  • 10.28.2009 12:21 PM PDT
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I chose the jet ski option because, though I'd also like larger vehicles, I certainly don't want a sub. Unless it's from Subway.

  • 10.28.2009 12:41 PM PDT

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All of the abover: a vehicle that is magically slow and fast at the same time

  • 10.28.2009 1:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy

and the seals use boats to infiltrate. it makes less sound and is less visible than a helicopter.


And here's the kicker: Pelican = Rocket Helicopter!

  • 10.28.2009 1:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROF Inferno
Posted by: Nicke Sw3
yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE


so you think swimming will be a must, though the only problem i see is a 4.5 ton spartan trying to swim


OK; I have been getting inconsistent data on the weight of a spartan dose the MK.V weigh 4.5 tons 2 tons 1 ton or a half a ton can anyone pleas clarify

  • 10.28.2009 1:39 PM PDT

Wherever you roam
so far from home
you'll be safe from peril
life threatening and terrible
if you avoid David Powel
and keep track of your towel.

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: ROF Inferno
Posted by: Nicke Sw3
yes, I've wanted a water-based MP map since Halo CE


so you think swimming will be a must, though the only problem i see is a 4.5 ton spartan trying to swim


OK; I have been getting inconsistent data on the weight of a spartan dose the MK.V weigh 4.5 tons 2 tons 1 ton or a half a ton can anyone pleas clarify


It's 1000 pounds (half a ton). But it can float if its hydrostatic gel is set to minimal pressure (which occurs if a Spartan is knocked unconscious or dies to prevent them from sinking).

  • 10.28.2009 1:45 PM PDT

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