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Subject: The BR is not overpowered or overused.
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ok well maybe it is overused but thats not its problem and has nothing to do with the BR itself.

There are all kinds of CQC weapons but only 2 mid range weapons, one rarely placed on maps. What do you expect? Of course the BR is going to get used a lot, you dont have any other options in mid range. If there was only 1 CQC weapon it would get overused to.

And the BR is not overpowered. People just stick to mid range because of how flawed CQC is. The melee is way too overpowered and simplistic. Thats a horrible combo to have because it negates any skill gap or dynamic gameplay.

If you want more weapon and gameplay variety dont look at the BR, its fine. You need to add more mid range weapons and fix CQC/melee. That way people will actualy venture into close range and when theyre in mid range theyl have more options than just the BR.


/retarded nerf the BR threads.


Posted by: A7XEric

"The BR problem is actually caused by a problem bungie created in ALL weapons during the switch from Halo 1 to Halo 2 (which carried over in H3 and ODST). Play Halo 1. Most weapons have around 40 or 50% more range than they do in all of the Halo sequels. For some reason bungie cut the range from every single weapon in the game, thus making the game more close range, thus making these midrange weapons like the carbine and BR dominate easier because players don't have a weapon that accurately shoots further than at a distance of 5 to 10 feet away -_-"


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  • 10.27.2009 3:51 PM PDT
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No more BR!

  • 10.27.2009 3:53 PM PDT

Non Nobis Nascimur - We are not born for ourselves.

The problem is, is that it is overpowered when compared to the other weapons. You can't have the vast majority of the weapons only good at a close range, while the BR dominates at every range. The only other weapon that can compete with a BR is a Carbine, but at least that has some level of balance to it: single shot with not so good accuracy.

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  • 10.27.2009 3:54 PM PDT

-The BR has a 36 clip capacity (more than the AR, a full-auto gun)
-Four shots for a headshot (about 3 seconds = kill)
-Large overall ammo capacity
-Easily used at all ranges

Yeah, it's OP.

  • 10.27.2009 3:54 PM PDT

I disagree with you 100% sorry.

Down with the BR?

  • 10.27.2009 3:56 PM PDT

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  • 10.27.2009 3:58 PM PDT

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I'm glad to BR is gone in Halo: Reach.

Also, I don't see how this is related to Halo: Reach, more like the The Only AR/BR Thread where it belongs.

  • 10.27.2009 3:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wild Smurf 14
The problem is, is that it is overpowered when compared to the other weapons. You can't have the vast majority of the weapons only good at a close range, while the BR dominates at every range. The only other weapon that can compete with a BR is a Carbine, but at least that has some level of balance to it: single shot with not so good accuracy.


So make the other weapons a viable option.

  • 10.27.2009 4:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
I'm glad to BR is gone in Halo: Reach.

Also, I don't see how this is related to Halo: Reach, more like the The Only AR/BR Thread where it belongs.

Who told you that?

  • 10.27.2009 4:00 PM PDT

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Bungie already has the Carbine for another mid-range option and the last thing I want is 3-4 weapons that all do the same thing.

I think a slight nerf would do it well. Along with CQC power going down to about 2/3 maybe half of it's current level. Turn the basic 4-shot into a basic 5 or 6-shot is what I think would be good.

  • 10.27.2009 4:01 PM PDT

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
I'm glad to BR is gone in Halo: Reach.

Also, I don't see how this is related to Halo: Reach, more like the The Only AR/BR Thread where it belongs.
When did Bungie say there was no BR in Reach?

  • 10.27.2009 4:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: hadlermaster
Who told you that?

Well, seeing as Bungie hates the BR, and I'm pretty sure they've said so before, th BR will either be downgraded, or not put into the game at all.

[Edited on 10.27.2009 4:03 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2009 4:02 PM PDT

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: hadlermaster
Who told you that?

Well, seeing as Bungie hates the BR, and I'm pretty sure they've said so before, th BR will either be downgraded, or not put into the game at all.
When did Bungie say they hate the BR?

  • 10.27.2009 4:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: WAR HOROR13
-The BR has a 36 clip capacity (more than the AR, a full-auto gun)
-Four shots for a headshot (about 3 seconds = kill)
-Large overall ammo capacity
-Easily used at all ranges

Yeah, it's OP.


-Thats because the AR is meant for use in tandem with melee. IT Has nothing to do with the BR. Shortcomings of other weapons are flaws with them not the BR.

-that doesnt make sens. And its mostly 5-7 shot kills due to the spread.

-Not really.If youre actually teamshotting youl run out of ammo all the time.

-Again not really. In CQC it is out done by anyone with a CQC and half a brain. mid range, its supposed to work in mid range. Long- a crapshoot due to the random spread.


Its not overpowered, people are just hamstrung into using it all the time because the alternatives are poor options.

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

I'm surprised you didn't say "Only noobs can't use BR".

I'm proud of you son...

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  • 10.27.2009 4:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
I'm surprised you didn't say "Only noobs can't use BR".

I'm proud of you son...
Im proud of me to

  • 10.27.2009 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cpl Crosseyes
Bungie already has the Carbine for another mid-range option and the last thing I want is 3-4 weapons that all do the same thing.

I think a slight nerf would do it well. Along with CQC power going down to about 2/3 maybe half of it's current level. Turn the basic 4-shot into a basic 5 or 6-shot is what I think would be good.


lol you mean like the 22000 CQC weapons that all function in the same way?

And the halo 3 BR is already a 5 or 6 shot weapon due to its spread.

Even in MLG games with increased damage and the best players in the world a perfect 4 shot is still something that is pointed out and applauded. In normal MM they are not the norm.

  • 10.27.2009 4:07 PM PDT

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wtf is cqc?

  • 10.27.2009 4:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: goblin95
When did Bungie say they hate the BR?

Maybe you need to be more active on Bungie.net, you obviously haven't been here long enough or active enough to debate over this yet.

[Edited on 10.27.2009 4:10 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Red A Link
wtf is cqc?
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  • 10.27.2009 4:11 PM PDT

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: goblin95
When did Bungie say they hate the BR?

Maybe you need to be more active on Bungie.net, you obviously haven't been here long enough or active enough to debate over this yet.
So you think just because one guy in Bungie did not want it in ODST that means all of Bungie hates the BR?

  • 10.27.2009 4:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: iRun Bnet
-Again not really. In CQC it is out done by anyone with a CQC and half a brain. mid range, its supposed to work in mid range. Long- a crapshoot due to the random spread.
You on crack boi?

  • 10.27.2009 4:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: goblin95
Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: goblin95
When did Bungie say they hate the BR?

Maybe you need to be more active on Bungie.net, you obviously haven't been here long enough or active enough to debate over this yet.
So you think just because one guy in Bungie did not want it in ODST that means all of Bungie hates the BR?
I would think that would have something to do with it yeah...

  • 10.27.2009 4:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: goblin95
So you think just because one guy in Bungie did not want it in ODST that means all of Bungie hates the BR?

There's actually a lot of Bungie Employees that hate the BR, they admitted that the BR shouldn't have been in Halo 3.

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: iRun Bnet
-Again not really. In CQC it is out done by anyone with a CQC and half a brain. mid range, its supposed to work in mid range. Long- a crapshoot due to the random spread.
You on crack boi?


Your counter argument is impeccable.

  • 10.27.2009 4:15 PM PDT