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Subject: The BR is not overpowered or overused.
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the Balance issue is the BR Kills quicker than the AR.
the two reasons are
1- "The AR has a strong melee". I don't like the Idea of the MA5 being a bludgeoning tool

2- "the BR kill quicker only with a head shot". Heads shots are easy. and making it harder is not balancing it, players will just used to no aim assist. Game play would be clunky and annoying but it would not balance it.

Balance is an easy fix and bungie probably got it worked out

It's a simple fix, make the AR kill quicker in auto fire. and make the optimum auto fire range 50m.

so the AR kills quicker within 50m and the BR kills quicker beyond 50m because you have to burst fire to accurately hit you target with the AR.

bungie should be spending more time on making the guns fun to use instead of editable balance issues. in Halo 3 all the UNMC guns were dull and boring, in halo CE they were ass backwards retarded but an absolute joy to shoot aliens with.

[Edited on 11.02.2009 7:10 PM PST]

  • 11.02.2009 7:07 PM PDT
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Who is this crazy darkpig guy anyway?

The other guns need to have a longer range otherwise just put Chief in SSB for all I care.

  • 11.02.2009 7:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Dallas Green
I make a legitimate thread on the most logical choice for the next Bond actor, and you take that away from me by creating a parody thread indirectly connecting my thread to yours.

I hope your kids have bad influences and develop bad personalities. I wish this with all my heart.

The BR can damage at almost any range. Technically, it's one of the slowest-killing weapons in the game, it just does all jobs OK. It also runs out of ammo fast.

  • 11.02.2009 7:22 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: L3377MA573R
The BR can damage at almost any range. Technically, it's one of the slowest-killing weapons in the game, it just does all jobs OK. It also runs out of ammo fast.
The AR takes longer.

  • 11.02.2009 7:48 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: L3377MA573R
The BR can damage at almost any range. Technically, it's one of the slowest-killing weapons in the game, it just does all jobs OK. It also runs out of ammo fast.

The BR has 144 rounds with extra clips. It can get 3 kills max per clip and 12 kills total without an ammunition pickup. Then there are always 3 or more per level (except snowbound). The gun does not run out of ammo that easily.

  • 11.02.2009 7:54 PM PDT

Halo Has 12 Close quarter weapons
2 Mid range
3 Long range weapons

now tell me if you see something wrong
the BR is not overpowered or overused. The game made it oped and overused, it was never intented but was "MADE" into the monster many of you dislike
LOOK there are 12 cqc weapons 12!!! The game is fubar in balance

reduce this nerf that, no people we need more mid range and long range weapons. Increasing power of the AR or thE range of other weapons is plain stupid. Sure guys let's unbalance the game some more

removing the BR will increase the use of the carbine then thus "The Carbine is oped" threads will start


the people who want BR nerfed there already is one and it's called the covenant carbine. Small clip more shots and single shot.


[Edited on 11.03.2009 12:04 AM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 12:00 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

There are not 12 CQC weapons. Sorry, that is just plain false.

Close Quarters ( < 10 meters | < 33ft)
Shotgun
Mauler
Sword
SMG

Mid-Close Quarters (10-40m | 33-130ft)
PP
PR
Brute Shot
Spiker
Assault Rifle
Needler
Rocket Launcher
Pistol

Mid Range (40-80m | 130-260ft)
Battle Rifle
Carbine

Long Range (+80m | +260ft)
Sniper Rifle
Beam Rifle
Spartan Laser

  • 11.03.2009 12:16 AM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
There are not 12 CQC weapons. Sorry, that is just plain false.

Close Quarters ( < 10 meters | < 33ft)
Shotgun
Mauler
Sword
SMG

Mid-Close Quarters (10-40m | 33-130ft)
PP
PR
Brute Shot
Spiker
Assault Rifle
Needler
Rocket Launcher
Pistol

Mid Range (40-80m | 130-260ft)
Battle Rifle
Carbine

Long Range (+80m | +260ft)
Sniper Rifle
Beam Rifle
Spartan Laser


what? Dude you just made up a whole category and you just contradicted yourself. Mid close quarters?? wtf is that lol. The keyword is "Close quarters" adding mid does not change anything. Those weapons you consider mid cqc highly inaccurate to be even considered mid cqc weapon. Your first two categories should be called very close and close quarters weapons.

I corrected myself 13!! You forgot the grav hammer

Il make my own category. It's called Mid long
weapon is the halo 2 BR

[Edited on 11.03.2009 12:58 AM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 12:51 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

I clearly defined what these categories are with the distances they occupy. You can see they are obviously not the same thing. Nitpicking about names doesn't change the fact that all these guns cannot be lumped into close range, since many of them function beyond that (specifically the Needler, AR, PP, Brute Shot and Rocket Launcher). I'll be damned the day 30ft is considered close quarters.

PS: Has anyone even TRIED killing with burst fire on the AR? Or is that just too abstract of a concept? Killing in CQC with the needler is also SUICIDE. You need to be many times farther away than even the SMG can function for the weapon to be effective, and usually only when you have the upper hand.

[Edited on 11.03.2009 1:42 AM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 1:40 AM PDT
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Yes.

  • 11.03.2009 2:50 AM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

Posted by: ericstifer
winning an encounter should not come down to who can "Out BR" who....

i recently played a local system link game with a couple of buddies of mine. now granted im a lot better then any of them so I attempted to not use a BR the entire time and tried to use other weapons such as carbine, pistol, brute shot, and others. Let me say, that was the most fun ive had playing halo in a long time!

if i did pick up a BR...its was just too easy to kill them...and got a lot less fun so id put it back down. people like the BR so much because it gives them easy kills with out having to get close. i'd rather use strategy and tactics to out maneuver my enemies to win over relying on a single weapon for easy kills because thats MORE FUN

Paragraph one: YES! I didn't touch the BR for an entire campaign of Halo 3, and had the time of my life.

Paragraph two: And Bungie is like you, they want a challenge and fun, not an easy kill.

  • 11.04.2009 9:35 PM PDT
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I have nothing against it..If ure good with it, use it

  • 11.05.2009 10:21 AM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
I clearly defined what these categories are with the distances they occupy. You can see they are obviously not the same thing. Nitpicking about names doesn't change the fact that all these guns cannot be lumped into close range, since many of them function beyond that (specifically the Needler, AR, PP, Brute Shot and Rocket Launcher). I'll be damned the day 30ft is considered close quarters.

PS: Has anyone even TRIED killing with burst fire on the AR? Or is that just too abstract of a concept? Killing in CQC with the needler is also SUICIDE. You need to be many times farther away than even the SMG can function for the weapon to be effective, and usually only when you have the upper hand.


30ft is 10 yards. With weapons that's really close
ok so your telling me your mid range close quarters category has a maximum accurate and effective killing range of 50 yards, which is half a football field
are you sure? 50 yards seems pretty far for the PR AR and needler. Rockets are considered close range because that is were it most effective and mainly use, but truly has a limitless killing range but is mostly used and effective within 10 yards

i've had burst shot with the AR, there is no point unless your trying to shoot at long range but it is still highly inaccurate and considered useless

[Edited on 11.05.2009 10:52 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 10:34 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
There are not 12 CQC weapons. Sorry, that is just plain false.

Close Range ( < 5 meters | < 15ft)
Shotgun
Mauler
Sword
Hammer

Midrange (5-25m | 15-75ft)
PP
SMG
PR
Brute Shot
Spiker
Assault Rifle
Needler
Rocket Launcher
Pistol

Long Range (20-50m | 60-150ft)
Battle Rifle
Carbine

Extreme Range (+50m | +150ft)
Sniper Rifle
Beam Rifle
Spartan Laser

This is my measurement.

  • 11.06.2009 12:47 AM PDT
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If Your Good With The BR Use It. If Not . .. .... .. Too Bad :P JK

  • 11.06.2009 4:25 AM PDT