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Subject: The BR is not overpowered or overused.

Posted by: DootuzPIE
Posted by: HaloTimes2
No more BR!


We want the pistol back!
But the pistol was better

  • 10.27.2009 6:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Red A Link
wtf is cqc?


Close quarters combat

  • 10.27.2009 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: hadlermaster
Who told you that?
His sick little twisted mind did. It speaks to him and he listens.

Don't get me wrong, i don't like the BR but, lets not get too ahead of ourselves and say it wont appear in the next game.

  • 10.27.2009 6:15 PM PDT
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This whole thread is just plain disappointing. The BR is a perfectly balanced weapon. In fact, if it was removed, the game would lack long range weapons (aside from the Carbine, which is on very few maps, and the snipers).

The Br shouldn't be a spawning weapon, and should be replaced in that respect with either the AutoMag from Halo 3 ODST or a UNSC semi-automatic Carbine.

  • 10.27.2009 6:18 PM PDT

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I like the BR but it IS way overpowered. Carbine starts would be more balanced, sure it can kill faster then the BR, but you need to make your shots count. The BR can go 3 body shots cleaned up with a headshot. The carbine has to go atleast 7 bodyshots with a Headshot for clean up.

  • 10.27.2009 6:30 PM PDT

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You're right. The BR is not overused or overpowered, ITS OVERESTIMATED!

  • 10.27.2009 6:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheRealGuy77777
I like the BR but it IS way overpowered. Carbine starts would be more balanced, sure it can kill faster then the BR, but you need to make your shots count. The BR can go 3 body shots cleaned up with a headshot. The carbine has to go atleast 7 bodyshots with a Headshot for clean up.

epic win in all its epicness

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  • 10.27.2009 6:33 PM PDT

so your saying that bungie should change EVERY single gun besides the br so the game revolves around the br? that would be stupid

  • 10.27.2009 6:59 PM PDT

If you want to talk or even ask a simple question to friendly reasonable without being flamed i suggest going to Halocharts. There they will not flame or harass you, they will not shoot down simple questions or make fun of you cause of your rank. something you dont often find on bungie's forums

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
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So you think just because one guy in Bungie did not want it in ODST that means all of Bungie hates the BR?

There's actually a lot of Bungie Employees that hate the BR, they admitted that the BR shouldn't have been in Halo 3.
link or didnt happen

  • 10.27.2009 7:09 PM PDT
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Br = good
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  • 10.27.2009 7:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
There's actually a lot of Bungie Employees that hate the BR, they admitted that the BR shouldn't have been in Halo 3.
One employee only said that actually. He also said he hated Dual Weilding.

  • 10.27.2009 7:19 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
Eat raw meat.
Punch a bear in the face.


If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

Mid-range weapon =/= CQC weapon.

The BR is way overpowered, despite however unfair CQC could be. It kills faster and at a longer range than all other weapons not classified as power-weapons, and compared to weapons like the Rocket Launcher and Sniper it's still really powerful.

You can play a whole game without ever needing to do anything but use the BR and occasionally melee. It's a headshot spam sandwich. At least with the Carbine you either hit or miss, but with the BR you have three chances to hit all in one pull of the trigger.

It has to be nerfed, it's the best way to balance everything else.

  • 10.27.2009 7:20 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

Somehow I don't see Bungie completely overhauling the medium range sandbox rather than fixing one gun. It would make more sense overall to just edit/delete the BR instead of adding in 2-3 new weapons.

  • 10.27.2009 7:26 PM PDT
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sorry if i quoted anyone. the BR is over used but i think that is because of the spawning weapons, the BR is just more useful than anything else. i would take a BR over an AR at any range because i know i can get a kill before reloading. If the AR clip size was increased i would always use it.

  • 10.27.2009 7:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: iRun Bnet
-that doesnt make sens. And its mostly 5-7 shot kills due to the spread.

And yet there are these things called 4-shots...

  • 10.27.2009 7:29 PM PDT

but this forum topic is.

  • 10.27.2009 7:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Thats the problem, weapons like the AR, PR, Spiker, etc: SHOULD be medium range. Where the BR and Carbine should be more limited to longer ranges.

And the sniper are too be super ranges?

  • 10.27.2009 8:20 PM PDT

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I just want either the BR adjusted (easy fix) or every other weapon adjusted (hard fix) so that more weapons in the sandbox get used more often.

This lack of variety comes from the BR's footprint in the sandbox, which is large because the rifle is useful in a larger amount of combat situations than most other weapons.

So I want that footprint to be adjusted so that other weapons get their fair shake in gameplay.

(Heh. 2x Scope on the Plasma Rifle)

  • 10.27.2009 8:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: old bad dog
Posted by: iRun Bnet
-that doesnt make sens. And its mostly 5-7 shot kills due to the spread.

And yet there are these things called 4-shots...


And yet rarely do even the best pull of 4-shots with the Br. Due to the spread and latancy over live, 5-6 shots are the norm.

  • 10.27.2009 8:30 PM PDT

The strongest Rivals are also the strongest allies.

the BR is an amazing weapon, but it needs to be tuned down the gameplay.

  • 10.27.2009 8:35 PM PDT

*Bobfather17*

I think that if the damage was drastically reduced and the spread was removed, it would become more specialized to a specific role. That way the BR would fall far on the tool of destruction list but have a definite purpose, and a new medium range skill weapon akin to the Halo CE pistol could be the new favored starting weapon.

  • 10.27.2009 8:49 PM PDT

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the BR is overpowered thats why EVERYONE uses it.
it beats every other weapon in halo 3.
it does not matter how many new weapons bungie puts in reach if the BR is in Reach it will be the ONLY weapon used in multiplayer new weapons or not.
play halo 3 EVERYONE uses it even in CQ maps like the pit
if bungie does not put the BR in Reach then i think EVERYONE will be happy.
but what about MLG? forget them they probably play halo just because they get money for it.
and plus the BR is so overpowered it is its own combo.
i dont give a -blam!- what MLG says the BR is overpowered and should not be in reach.

  • 10.27.2009 8:52 PM PDT
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Why can't they just increase the range and damage for the most of the other guns The plasma rifle and the AR can easily compete with the BR if they were made into full fledged mid range weapons.

The AR would be able to kill quicker than both the BR and the PR, but would be the least accurate of the three, but still be able to kill effectively at longer distances when you use burst fire. If they need to increase skill gap, they could put headshot bonus in it.

For the Pr, it would be more accurate than the Ar, but deals less damage than the Ar, though it deals a little bit more damage than the BR. It will also get plasma stun as a headshot bonus, and maybe even a damage increase from headshots (not an instant kill from an unshielded headshot though).

The Br should be the most accurate of the three rifles, but also the one that deals the least amount of damage.

The carbine could use an accuracy and mag buff to make it even with the Br.

The shotgun should have more range so it can kill something other than something at point blank, maybe have it's kill range at about one warthog range, but will be able to do damage a bit further.

I think smgs should also get a range buff, and maybe a power buff, but keep it at close range.

And most importantly, remove dual wielding.

[Edited on 10.27.2009 5:41 PM PDT]


YES, i almost peed at what you are saying because thats what ive tryed to tell eveyone is that if the ar was not so noobish(not so simple like a spray and pray) and more skilled like you could burst and get head shots so it could be a mid range wep to counter the br. as for what you sed about the pr....i never thought about it that way but yes it would be cool that way

  • 10.27.2009 10:37 PM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

Posted by: HaloTimes2
No more BR!

'Nuff said.

  • 10.27.2009 10:39 PM PDT
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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

Seriously, this rant has been going since Halo 2. Don't you guys get bored of this?

  • 10.27.2009 10:43 PM PDT