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Subject: Halo wars-should have nothing to do with halo:reach

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: Phoenix1330
it's true, at the same time, the fact that the SOF never made it home that we know of means that humans never had a clue.

The SoF had to have made it back. 25 out of the remaining 28 Spartans were present at the Battle of Reach. The 3 missing are presumed Grey Team and the 5 others are Samuel, Kurt, Randall, and Sheila with the final Spartan likely the one "too wounded to continue active duty".

good point. however. it seems as if there were also more than just the 25 there... according to the call signs of the spartans in the trailer, there seems to be another batch of spartans that no body knew about... my guess, ONI trained ones, they were trained at the same time as the other SIIs but by ONI not the UNSC.

  • 10.28.2009 6:47 PM PDT

(;3=

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: snaky jones
as far as i and many other fans are concerned,halo wars does not fit into the halo canon and the inclusion of any halo wars vehicles would ruin reach


Regardless about you and those other "fans" are concerned with. Halo Wars is confirmed to be canon.

Deal with it.


yep what caboose said

  • 10.28.2009 6:48 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Posted by: HaloTimes2
I love how after he got the proof of Halo Wars being canon, he has not posted in this thread.
he's ignoring my PM too

  • 10.28.2009 6:48 PM PDT
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what is this halo you speak of?

lol he talks about halo wars and gets owned thinking he know all about halo.


while he played 4 games of halo 2


sure halo fan

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  • 10.28.2009 7:03 PM PDT

I don't join any group that spams me in PM so don't try it.
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Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: snaky jones
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Well then you and many other fans are verifyably false.

Go ahead . . . try me.

none of the vehicles etc and most of the canon units dont fit into the halo timeline,humanity hadnt developed these things and even if they had prototypes they wouldnt give them to a ship tasked with mopping up a few covie troops on a glassed planet


Pathetic.

You just didn't see any before Halo Wars. Do you really think that the UNSC wouldn't have self-propelled anti-air missile systems or artillery guns?

Come on, give me a real challenge!

If all these vehicles existed then why did the UNSC regularly lose ground engagements with the Covenant before the Spartans?

  • 10.28.2009 7:05 PM PDT

(;3=

Posted by: Dexomega
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: snaky jones
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Well then you and many other fans are verifyably false.

Go ahead . . . try me.

none of the vehicles etc and most of the canon units dont fit into the halo timeline,humanity hadnt developed these things and even if they had prototypes they wouldnt give them to a ship tasked with mopping up a few covie troops on a glassed planet


Pathetic.

You just didn't see any before Halo Wars. Do you really think that the UNSC wouldn't have self-propelled anti-air missile systems or artillery guns?

Come on, give me a real challenge!

If all these vehicles existed then why did the UNSC regularly lose ground engagements with the Covenant before the Spartans?


the ground wars were usually won by the unsc but the covies were superior in battles in space.

  • 10.28.2009 7:13 PM PDT
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i would thinck that halowars would not ruin Reach

  • 10.28.2009 7:15 PM PDT
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what is this halo you speak of?

bump cause i like this thread and the op geting flamed

  • 10.29.2009 6:04 PM PDT

YOU'RE STILL ALIVE?!?

Posted by: Viper Skills
It fits just fine within Halo canon. The discovery of the Flood before the discovery of Halo? Possible. Why? The Spirit of Fire never returned to UNSC controlled space to tell their story.

As far as the UNSC is concerned, the Spirit of Fire is MIA.



You're right, but they could've made it back in many years. Unless they don't return (Legendary ending).

  • 10.29.2009 6:15 PM PDT

"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in." - Greek Proverb

Posted by: Helljumper9
if you think about it it would be sweet to control a grizzly rather than a regular tank or operating a hawk rather than a regular hornet


ODST, Uplift Reserve with Dutch, u can see at the begining of lvl multiple fast moving fighter planes screaming by overhead.......Hawks??

  • 10.29.2009 6:22 PM PDT
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what is this halo you speak of?

Posted by: The Quicken
Posted by: Helljumper9
if you think about it it would be sweet to control a grizzly rather than a regular tank or operating a hawk rather than a regular hornet


ODST, Uplift Reserve with Dutch, u can see at the begining of lvl multiple fast moving fighter planes screaming by overhead.......Hawks??


no drones

  • 10.29.2009 6:23 PM PDT

Why would Halo Wars ruin Reach? It didn't even take place on Reach, that was Harvest..

  • 10.29.2009 6:32 PM PDT

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if you avoid David Powel
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Posted by: Helljumper9
if you think about it it would be sweet to control a grizzly rather than a regular tank or operating a hawk rather than a regular hornet


ODST, Uplift Reserve with Dutch, u can see at the begining of lvl multiple fast moving fighter planes screaming by overhead.......Hawks??


F-99 Aerial Combat Drones

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Posted by: snaky jones
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Well then you and many other fans are verifyably false.

Go ahead . . . try me.

none of the vehicles etc and most of the canon units dont fit into the halo timeline,humanity hadnt developed these things and even if they had prototypes they wouldnt give them to a ship tasked with mopping up a few covie troops on a glassed planet


Pathetic.

You just didn't see any before Halo Wars. Do you really think that the UNSC wouldn't have self-propelled anti-air missile systems or artillery guns?

Come on, give me a real challenge!

If all these vehicles existed then why did the UNSC regularly lose ground engagements with the Covenant before the Spartans?


Realistically speaking Plasma weaponry and shields > physical shells

  • 10.29.2009 7:10 PM PDT

Non Nobis Nascimur - We are not born for ourselves.

I think you should see a few of the Halo Wars vehicles in Reach. Not driveable, though. Just lying around somewhere in a vehicle depot or maybe even destroyed in a battlefield. Hell, maybe even alive in a battle. How awesome would that be: you're walking along and you see a couple Cobras deployed and firing at some Wraiths.

  • 10.29.2009 7:23 PM PDT

the only thing I would like to see from Halo Wars is the Vampire

  • 10.29.2009 7:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Viper Skills
It fits just fine within Halo canon. The discovery of the Flood before the discovery of Halo? Possible. Why? The Spirit of Fire never returned to UNSC controlled space to tell their story.

As far as the UNSC is concerned, the Spirit of Fire is MIA.

There's just 1 thing that confuses me, they said the Captain Keyes was one or at least the first human victim of the Flood.. explain what happens in Halo wars when the marines get infected. but then again those guys never reported back to the UNSC like you said so they might not have known the flood existed.

  • 10.29.2009 8:03 PM PDT

I dont want any halo wars anything in Reach, The vheicles were so stupid. They were ither increadably stupid looking an usless or just a normal halo vehicle with bigger guns slaped on...

  • 10.29.2009 8:34 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Short answer: Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Each Halo game provides a tiny look into the UNSC's arsenal.

And for that matter, the Covenant arsenal as well.

For example:

Halo 1:
Didn't have any UNSC or Covenant Midrange rifle or grenade launcher.

No UNSC airpower other than the Longsword.

No UNSC artillery.

No personal defense weapon for Navy and Tank crew (SMG).

Militaries need these kind of weapons to be fully operational.

  • 10.29.2009 10:52 PM PDT

"They let me pick... did I ever tell you that? Choose whichever Spartan I wanted. You know me. I did my research. Watched as you became the soldier we needed you to be. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, a natural leader. But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Can you guess? Luck."
—Cortana to John-117

Some of the vechicals, weapons, and the Spartans are not cannon.

For example, the Plasma Rino. If the UNSC has the plasma rino, why weren't they using other plasma based weapons?

The Weapons, Spartan Laser was never used in combat till some time after Reach I believe. I don't believe the laser was still in testing and not to be used in combat.

Now the Spartans, to my knowlege, there was no Spartan II's that where ordered to fight on Harvest, I believe they where just finishing there training and getting the new Mark 4 armor. Besides, the Spartans where created to defeat the Inserectionist, not fight the covenant. This changed some time later.

  • 10.29.2009 11:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: snaky jones
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Well then you and many other fans are verifyably false.

Go ahead . . . try me.

none of the vehicles etc and most of the canon units dont fit into the halo timeline,humanity hadnt developed these things and even if they had prototypes they wouldnt give them to a ship tasked with mopping up a few covie troops on a glassed planet

what the others said, plus, I'm sure the unsc didn't have heavy tanks (grizzly), different kind of helicopters and jets (hawks), and EMP weapons. (even though we, as of today the october 28th 2009, have such EMP weapons.)


Grizzlies were Forge's special, unique Scorpion units. Legitimately his and his idea. Only for the Spirit of Fire.

Are you kidding? Of course they have EMP weapons. Isn't that just...common sense or something?

Hawks could have been a prototype of the Longsword fighters, and were still being used at the time, and they eventually stopped making them. Just an idea, not exactly sure about the history of them, so don't take this as a fact.

Also, to the OP of these quotes, I believe there was a Wolverine factory that literally made all of the wolverines at the time, and it was completely destroyed, and they never rebuilt it. This is a rumor on my part, don't know if it's true or not.

As for things like cobras, vultures etc., maybe they just stopped making them. I don't know. A lot can change in twenty years.

Posted by: Torch105
Some of the vechicals, weapons, and the Spartans are not cannon.

For example, the Plasma Rino. If the UNSC has the plasma rino, why weren't they using other plasma based weapons?

The Weapons, Spartan Laser was never used in combat till some time after Reach I believe. I don't believe the laser was still in testing and not to be used in combat.

Now the Spartans, to my knowlege, there was no Spartan II's that where ordered to fight on Harvest, I believe they where just finishing there training and getting the new Mark 4 armor. Besides, the Spartans where created to defeat the Inserectionist, not fight the covenant. This changed some time later.


The Plasma Rhino was actually said in the game to be a prototype, and their first plasma weapon made. They never got around to finishing it. They only used it in that mission because they were desperate.

No knowledge of the Spartan Laser, but I don't believe it was made in that time either, so I agree with you there.

Halo Wars takes place 5 years after the assault on Harvest, so all of the Spartan-II's are very well in this type of combat.

[Edited on 10.29.2009 11:21 PM PDT]

  • 10.29.2009 11:19 PM PDT

"They let me pick... did I ever tell you that? Choose whichever Spartan I wanted. You know me. I did my research. Watched as you became the soldier we needed you to be. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, a natural leader. But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Can you guess? Luck."
—Cortana to John-117

Posted by: Torch105
Some of the vechicals, weapons, and the Spartans are not cannon.

For example, the Plasma Rino. If the UNSC has the plasma rino, why weren't they using other plasma based weapons?

The Weapons, Spartan Laser was never used in combat till some time after Reach I believe. I don't believe the laser was still in testing and not to be used in combat.

Now the Spartans, to my knowlege, there was no Spartan II's that where ordered to fight on Harvest, I believe they where just finishing there training and getting the new Mark 4 armor. Besides, the Spartans where created to defeat the Inserectionist, not fight the covenant. This changed some time later.[/quote]

The Plasma Rhino was actually said in the game to be a prototype, and their first plasma weapon made. They never got around to finishing it. They only used it in that mission because they were desperate.

No knowledge of the Spartan Laser, but I don't believe it was made in that time either, so I agree with you there.

Halo Wars takes place 5 years after the assault on Harvest, so all of the Spartan-II's are very well in this type of combat.


They may very well be ready, but they where never ordered, to my knowlege, to fight on harvest.

And if the plasma rino was a proto-type, why was there no other plasma proto-type weapons? Unless Bungie * cough * ONI would not reveal this to the public.

  • 10.29.2009 11:42 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Halo Wars is canon. Bungie said so themselves.

Ever thought that, for instance, the Spartan Laser used by the Spartans in Halo Wars was a prototype? Or a weapons test?

Or maybe it wasnt in Halo CE because the Pillar of Autumn didnt have any on board?

  • 10.30.2009 4:02 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Posted by: Dexomega
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: snaky jones
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Well then you and many other fans are verifyably false.

Go ahead . . . try me.

none of the vehicles etc and most of the canon units dont fit into the halo timeline,humanity hadnt developed these things and even if they had prototypes they wouldnt give them to a ship tasked with mopping up a few covie troops on a glassed planet


Pathetic.

You just didn't see any before Halo Wars. Do you really think that the UNSC wouldn't have self-propelled anti-air missile systems or artillery guns?

Come on, give me a real challenge!

If all these vehicles existed then why did the UNSC regularly lose ground engagements with the Covenant before the Spartans?


The UNSC lost ground engagements from the start of the war to the finish. The fact they regularly lost before Spartans came along makes no difference.

  • 10.30.2009 4:04 AM PDT

It could be cool

[Edited on 10.30.2009 4:54 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2009 4:37 AM PDT

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