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Subject: Halo Wars vehicals in Halo Reach?

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I'm just saying that it would be cool if bungie but the halo wars vehicals on Reach. LIke the upgraded wraith, locast, vampires, grizzlies, hawks, etc. etc. etc. I think it would be a major hit! (Only if you get to drive it =)It would be so KOOL!)

  • 10.28.2009 4:18 PM PDT
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vehicle*
locust*


here are all the vehicles in HW and why they can't be in the game :

locust : sentinel beam on steroids + low mobility and shields. a mongoose would last longer.
grizzly : super scorpion. ultra overpowered.
hawk : super hornet with 2 gauss guns. a hornet is OP already.
cobra : tank version of the gauss hog. OP
cyclops : slow, cant jump, cant use guns, cant use grenades. can ONLY melee.
vampire : AA only
gremlins : giant plasma pistol on wheel. good only at stunning vehicles.

there. now forget it.

  • 10.28.2009 4:34 PM PDT

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I don't think Grizzlies and Hawks are cannon, I think they were made just as a way to add a level of uniqueness to the leaders in Halo Wars.

  • 10.28.2009 4:53 PM PDT

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GOD NO!
Halo Wars, while technecly being canon, invented a bunch of units for the RTS genre and the basics of that genre. Infantry beat aircraft/cannons, aircraft/cannons beat armoured calvalry/calvalry, and armourd calvalry/calvalry beat infanty.

  • 10.28.2009 4:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
locust*


here are all the vehicles in HW and why they can't be in the game :

locust : sentinel beam on steroids + low mobility and shields. a mongoose would last longer.
grizzly : super scorpion. ultra overpowered.
hawk : super hornet with 2 gauss guns. a hornet is OP already.
cobra : tank version of the gauss hog. OP
cyclops : slow, cant jump, cant use guns, cant use grenades. can ONLY melee.
vampire : AA only
gremlins : giant plasma pistol on wheel. good only at stunning vehicles.

there. now forget it.


You're funny z0rgy, most of those are wrong and you neglected Wolverines.

You're just making assumptions about the Locust, it's beam would probably be effective at great range and would be quite powerful.

Maybe you're right about Grizzlies, they're just modded Scorpions anyway.

A Sparrowhawk has two machine guns and a single M6 Grindell/Galilean Non-Linear Rifle (Spartan Laser).

A Cobra isn't a tank, it would be roughly as durable as a Warthog and it would be slower.

I doubt that a Spartan would even fit in a Cyclops anyway.

Vampires do have their extremely long range plasma repeaters too, and there's no technical reason that they can't direct their needles at ground targets (it's just a matter of balance).

Plasma pistols can get rid of shields too, not that incredibly weak anti-personnel capabilities of the Halo Wars Gremlin can't be tweaked to fit the needs of an FPS.

  • 10.28.2009 4:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dustinw1
GOD NO!
Halo Wars, while technecly being canon, invented a bunch of units for the RTS genre and the basics of that genre. Infantry beat aircraft/cannons, aircraft/cannons beat armoured calvalry/calvalry, and armourd calvalry/calvalry beat infanty.


Quit being so alarmist, yes they did expand the rosters of the UNSC and Covenant armies to suit their needs as an RTS but there's absolutely no reason these "won't fit" into FPS gameplay.

And listing that triangle doesn't really support your case at all, and in Halo Wars this only really applies to the "main" units, all of which come directly from the FPSs.

  • 10.28.2009 5:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
locust*


here are all the vehicles in HW and why they can't be in the game :

locust : sentinel beam on steroids + low mobility and shields. a mongoose would last longer.
grizzly : super scorpion. ultra overpowered.
hawk : super hornet with 2 gauss guns. a hornet is OP already.
cobra : tank version of the gauss hog. OP
cyclops : slow, cant jump, cant use guns, cant use grenades. can ONLY melee.
vampire : AA only
gremlins : giant plasma pistol on wheel. good only at stunning vehicles.

there. now forget it.


You're funny z0rgy, most of those are wrong and you neglected Wolverines.

You're just making assumptions about the Locust, it's beam would probably be effective at great range and would be quite powerful.

Maybe you're right about Grizzlies, they're just modded Scorpions anyway.

A Sparrowhawk has two machine guns and a single M6 Grindell/Galilean Non-Linear Rifle (Spartan Laser).

A Cobra isn't a tank, it would be roughly as durable as a Warthog and it would be slower.

I doubt that a Spartan would even fit in a Cyclops anyway.

Vampires do have their extremely long range plasma repeaters too, and there's no technical reason that they can't direct their needles at ground targets (it's just a matter of balance).

Plasma pistols can get rid of shields too, not that incredibly weak anti-personnel capabilities of the Halo Wars Gremlin can't be tweaked to fit the needs of an FPS.

wow, a smart guy. /sarcasm.

I think you really need to play HW.

if bungie didn't include the sentinel beam, they sure aren't going to put a 10 times stronger version of it. that's just using logic.

the hawk doesn't have a spartan laser... instead, ingame, it CLEARLY has 2 white laser beams and a small machinegun, like the one hornets have.
so if the laser beams are even half as stong as spartan lasers, it's OP. if the 2 beams are as strong as 1 gauss bullet, then it's OP too (considering the gauss hog is OP already).
basically a hawk is a hornet with gauss guns (or laser guns if you're hellbent on your idea) instead of missiles and more armor.

the cobra isn't technically a tank, but it has a bulky armor and goes at the same speed as a tank, and it has a heavy mounted turret and is a tank killer vehicle. I said it was a tank version of the gauss hog... which basically meant "a warthog looking like a tank, with heavy armor". again, considering gauss hogs are OP...

vamps can't fire at ground targets with their needler turret because it's located on the upper part of the craft. if it tried to shoot at the ground, it'd destroy the vampire. (and it can't even aim toward the ground). they have their dual plasma guns, but then a vampire would basically be a hovering banshee....

and since you mention wolverines : they are AA killers. their only ground weapon is a grenade launcher, and I don't see a grenade launcher in a halo game, even vehicle mounted.


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  • 10.28.2009 5:13 PM PDT
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HELLZ YEAH THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME!!!

  • 10.28.2009 5:23 PM PDT

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Do you guys know how incredibly hilarious it would be if you could make a Vulture crash just by shooting it with one plasma overcharge?

  • 10.28.2009 5:26 PM PDT

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I do want locusts though, but it should have a 4 second charge like the spartan laser, and continuous fire will overheat at a much faster rate then a normal sentinel beam, causing the vehicle to disable like the scarab for a long time.

  • 10.28.2009 5:30 PM PDT
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halo wars iz the bomb and so are the other halos now combine them both and you get a beastly halo game on steriods

  • 10.28.2009 5:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: YumBuscuitMan
Do you guys know how incredibly hilarious it would be if you could make a Vulture crash just by shooting it with one plasma overcharge?

I lol'd too hard on that.

  • 10.28.2009 5:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy

wow, a smart guy. /sarcasm.

I think you really need to play HW.

if bungie didn't include the sentinel beam, they sure aren't going to put a 10 times stronger version of it. that's just using logic.

the hawk doesn't have a spartan laser... instead, ingame, it CLEARLY has 2 white laser beams and a small machinegun, like the one hornets have.
so if the laser beams are even half as stong as spartan lasers, it's OP. if the 2 beams are as strong as 1 gauss bullet, then it's OP too (considering the gauss hog is OP already).
basically a hawk is a hornet with gauss guns (or laser guns if you're hellbent on your idea) instead of missiles and more armor.

the cobra isn't technically a tank, but it has a bulky armor and goes at the same speed as a tank, and it has a heavy mounted turret and is a tank killer vehicle. I said it was a tank version of the gauss hog... which basically meant "a warthog looking like a tank, with heavy armor". again, considering gauss hogs are OP...

vamps can't fire at ground targets with their needler turret because it's located on the upper part of the craft. if it tried to shoot at the ground, it'd destroy the vampire. (and it can't even aim toward the ground). they have their dual plasma guns, but then a vampire would basically be a hovering banshee....

and since you mention wolverines : they are AA killers. their only ground weapon is a grenade launcher, and I don't see a grenade launcher in a halo game, even vehicle mounted.


Oh, so you're basing all of your assumptions off the in-game performance and appearance of the vehicles?

You see, that's a very limited (and limiting) perspective. In-game the vehicles are quite constrained, there is realistically no reason that a Vampire can't angle it's fixed needler cannon downwards towards the ground.

Nor is there any reason that a Wolverine can't sport a mounted machine gun as opposed to a grenade launcher.

Nor is there any reason that something not properly balanced for matchmaking can't make an appearance in the game. (That's the really profound statement, and it has enormous precedence)

And since you continue to disbelieve that Sparrowhawks are armed with lasers turn to page twelve.

  • 10.28.2009 5:48 PM PDT

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  • 10.28.2009 5:58 PM PDT

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actually according to Bungie, all Halo Wars vehicles are infact cannon. the only part of halo wars that is not cannon is the spartan's shields that were added for gameplay. they are not present in cutscenes.

ALL vehicles, weapons, and technology for all factions are cannon. even the 3 surviving spartans. they are still alive in cryo by cannon story


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  • 10.28.2009 6:07 PM PDT

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One or the other, both say that Hawks (short for Sparrowhawk) have lasers.

  • 10.28.2009 6:13 PM PDT

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I would have absolutely no problem with just seeing some of the Halo Wars vehicles in reach. Maybe a flight of Vampires soar over during a battle or a Vulture giving fire support.

God, I'd love to pilot a Vulture...so much carnage...

But some vehicles would just be too much. As long as they stick with the usual assortment of vehicles I think Reach will be just fine. A new surprise here and there would be awesome of course.

  • 10.28.2009 6:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: MarineGrunt73
I would have absolutely no problem with just seeing some of the Halo Wars vehicles in reach. Maybe a flight of Vampires soar over during a battle or a Vulture giving fire support.

God, I'd love to pilot a Vulture...so much carnage...

But some vehicles would just be too much. As long as they stick with the usual assortment of vehicles I think Reach will be just fine. A new surprise here and there would be awesome of course.


nothing excessive. cobras would be cool, they deploy their armour only when locked down... pretty good balancing mechanism there

  • 10.28.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wild Smurf 14
I don't think Grizzlies and Hawks are cannon, I think they were made just as a way to add a level of uniqueness to the leaders in Halo Wars.


they are canon because bungie said halo wars was canon that means the vehicles the events and the characters are now part of canon

  • 10.28.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Josephson
Posted by: Wild Smurf 14
I don't think Grizzlies and Hawks are cannon, I think they were made just as a way to add a level of uniqueness to the leaders in Halo Wars.


they are canon because bungie said halo wars was canon that means the vehicles the events and the characters are now part of canon


But we should always be mindful of Gameplay and Story Segregation. That's true for the FPSs too (especially for them in fact).

  • 10.28.2009 6:51 PM PDT