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Subject: Does Bungie truly listen to feedback?
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If so, they will get dedicated servers for Reach. I won't even mention all the downfalls of not having them, everyone should know that by now.

They seem to make enough $$$ to host games. Seriously... you guys have done everything else right, time to fix this, no?

  • 10.30.2009 5:30 PM PDT

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Choosing hosts and using the system they have implemented now is more practical.

Besides if it ain't broke don't fix it.

  • 10.30.2009 5:31 PM PDT
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Besides if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I want to slap you so hard.

  • 10.30.2009 5:33 PM PDT

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Yeah they do, look how they downplayed the Arbiter in Halo 3.

Oh, you're just -blam!-ing about your crappy Internet connection in the wrong way. I see how it is.

  • 10.30.2009 5:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
Besides if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I want to slap you so hard.
Hey that's not nice. You can argue about the advantages about having dedicated servers but I stand by that it's more practical and that it's still not broken therefore they should not fix it.

  • 10.30.2009 5:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Yeah they do, look how they downplayed the Arbiter in Halo 3.

Oh, you're just -blam!-ing about your crappy Internet connection in the wrong way. I see how it is.

You're an idiot with no sense of logic. Do you know how much cheating goes on due to the current MM system? Think before you post.

Getting dedicated servers would eliminate so many things that are wrong with the game's MM system.

[Edited on 10.30.2009 5:38 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2009 5:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Yeah they do, look how they downplayed the Arbiter in Halo 3.

Oh, you're just -blam!-ing about your crappy Internet connection in the wrong way. I see how it is.

You're an idiot with no sense of logic. Do you know how much cheating goes on due to the current MM system? Think before you post.

Getting dedicated servers would eliminate so many things that are wrong with the game's MM system.
Hey... you're still being mean...

All I see when I put in Halo is a fully functioning matchmaking system that has occasional lag like any other online game. I don't know much about dedicated servers but I do know that I have run into actual cheaters only once or twice on the current system and that it works very well.

I don't think the PC version of MW2 would change their entire system to a host-based one if it was completely broke either.

And you could try less insults. It would get more people on your side to support you instead of seeming to be a jerk who insults everyone who disagrees with him.

  • 10.30.2009 5:43 PM PDT
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Hey... you're still being mean...

All I see when I put in Halo is a fully functioning matchmaking system that has occasional lag like any other online game. I don't know much about dedicated servers but I do know that I have run into actual cheaters only once or twice on the current system and that it works very well.

I don't think the PC version of MW2 would change their entire system to a host-based one if it was completely broke either.

And you could try less insults. It would get more people on your side to support you instead of seeming to be a jerk who insults everyone who disagrees with him.

I think you should really think about how fair dedicated servers would be to everyone before you make the decision that the current system is best.

FYI - He insulted me, I was civil in my OP.

  • 10.30.2009 5:45 PM PDT
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  • 10.30.2009 5:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
POsted by: Cpl Crosseyes
Hey... you're still being mean...

All I see when I put in Halo is a fully functioning matchmaking system that has occasional lag like any other online game. I don't know much about dedicated servers but I do know that I have run into actual cheaters only once or twice on the current system and that it works very well.

I don't think the PC version of MW2 would change their entire system to a host-based one if it was completely broke either.

And you could try less insults. It would get more people on your side to support you instead of seeming to be a jerk who insults everyone who disagrees with him.

I think you should really think about how fair dedicated servers would be to everyone before you make the decision that the current system is best.

FYI - He insulted me, I was civil in my OP.
Oh jeez I though I read that was a quote of my post. My bad.

  • 10.30.2009 5:47 PM PDT
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Are you trolling me in my own thread? lol Go back to the one you created.

  • 10.30.2009 5:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
Are you trolling me in my own thread? lol Go back to the one you created.
He's been trolling Eeeeeverywhere tonight.

  • 10.30.2009 5:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Getting servers won't fix any problems.

  • 10.30.2009 5:52 PM PDT

I don't think you realized how much it costs for dedicated servers. Lag and packet loss occur in both models.

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Posted by: urk
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If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

I have to agree with Crosseye. The matchmaking system has problems, but there'd likely be even MORE problems if Bungie tried to make their own dedicated servers (Including the fact that it'd be expensive, time consuming, and a sap on manpower). I'd take improvements on what works rather than an experiment in my opinion.

Bungie wouldn't just instantly "make" dedicated servers, they'd have to learn how to make them, maintain them, work with them, the works. However, they know how to make a matchmaking system that works pretty well so why tell them that they're wasting time?

  • 10.30.2009 5:54 PM PDT
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I think they have the funds to have dedicated servers. If other smaller game companies can do it, I'm sure Bungie can as well.

I'm still hoping they go this route with Reach. If not I will be extremely disappointed.

[Edited on 10.30.2009 5:54 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2009 5:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Having servers requires massive amounts of maintenance. If a server goes down, everyone in that whole region can't play. People who aren't close to a server will lag.

P2P hosting is so much easier for everyone.

  • 10.30.2009 5:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
Are you trolling me in my own thread? lol Go back to the one you created.

BK get trolled

  • 10.30.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
Are you trolling me in my own thread? lol Go back to the one you created.
He's been trolling Eeeeeverywhere tonight.


Both of you stop Trolling around and talk about the topic!!!

  • 10.30.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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In Halo 4 you should be able to play as the Arbiter once more and yes there will be a Halo 4 but not for a few years. After Reach, Forunner comes out then Halo 4

  • 10.30.2009 5:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Posted by: Barthvader76
In Halo 4 you should be able to play as the Arbiter once more and yes there will be a Halo 4 but not for a few years. After Reach, Forunner comes out then Halo 4


No, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

[Edited on 10.30.2009 5:59 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2009 5:58 PM PDT
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On topic, I'll admit I don't know all that much about the details of maintaining dedicated servers, but in my opinion it would fix a lot of things that are wrong with MM right now.

That's not to say that new problems won't arise, but I'd like to see a different approach this time around.

I'm pretty certain they're just tweaking the current system rather than implementing dedicated servers, but I'd like to hear about the pros and cons of dedicated servers vs P2P.

  • 10.30.2009 6:00 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
"If other smaller game companies can do it, I'm sure Bungie can as well.
Which companies are you talking about? When I think of dedicated servers I think Battlefield, and the giant corporation EA, and Valve, one of the oldest and best PC game companies on the planet. Battlefield games have the benefit of being backed by EA to pay for servers, and Valve's business is run entirely by servers. Bungie is independent now, so they wouldn't have enough to support millions of people playing a game from around the world.

  • 10.30.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
I'm pretty certain they're just tweaking the current system rather than implementing dedicated servers, but I'd like to hear about the pros and cons of dedicated servers vs P2P.


http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8455638&po stRepeater1-p=1

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Posted by: GiIIaHouse
I'm pretty certain they're just tweaking the current system rather than implementing dedicated servers, but I'd like to hear about the pros and cons of dedicated servers vs P2P.


http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8455638&po stRepeater1-p=1

Thanks. I'm going to give this a read.

  • 10.30.2009 6:07 PM PDT

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