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Subject: MA5K Carbine = New Gun?

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It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MA5K_Carbine

  • 10.30.2009 11:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: superplayer08
It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MA5K_Carbine
Like with all Halo games, the iconic weapons are usually the first bits of information mentioned to the fans. The MA5K being in Reach is a really safe bet, but we'll find out soon enough if it is or isn't in the game.

  • 10.30.2009 11:48 PM PDT

don't forget the gauss rifle, but that would be overpowered.
It would be sweet to have the MA5K though

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Isn't that a more powerful AR!? No thanks if so.

  • 10.31.2009 12:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: SwzzY
Isn't that a more powerful AR!? No thanks if so.
The assault rifle's problem was range. If it was more effective at mid range, the amount of constant close-range AR + melee combat would die down.

If there is an automatic rifle as a starting weapon, it needs to be effective at more than just close range, otherwise it really boils down to getting in close for melee attacks.

  • 10.31.2009 12:11 AM PDT
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what would be the point of a spartan using a carbine?

sure a gun is a gun, but given the option an assault rifle would be more practical

  • 10.31.2009 12:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: SwzzY
Isn't that a more powerful AR!? No thanks if so.
The assault rifle's problem was range. If it was more effective at mid range, the amount of constant close-range AR + melee combat would die down.

If there is an automatic rifle as a starting weapon, it needs to be effective at more than just close range, otherwise it really boils down to getting in close for melee attacks.


The ARs problem was not range it was mussel velocity

it's just ridiculously difficult to get a kill at mid range because the reticule is as big as Texas and there is no dot in the middle, your aim assist only works at 20m and the mussel velocity is very low so hitting a moving target is like hitting running rabbit with a 3 dollar BB gun.

so all the AR needs
- A mussel velocity increase

- A zoom like the ODST SMG

- It needs to do more armor damage and less shield

- sparks and blood need to fly out upon a hit. because at longer ranges you really don't know if you are hitting once the shield is gone

- and it needs to be louder for the sake of it not sounding like a BB gun

  • 10.31.2009 12:32 AM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

Don't forget accuracy and a rate of fire worth respecting.

  • 10.31.2009 12:32 AM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
what would be the point of a spartan using a carbine?

sure a gun is a gun, but given the option an assault rifle would be more practical


You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A carbine is a shortened version more suitable for CQC.

  • 10.31.2009 12:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
what would be the point of a spartan using a carbine?

sure a gun is a gun, but given the option an assault rifle would be more practical


You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A carbine is a shortened version more suitable for CQC.


I think what CJ was trying to say is that a Spartan can use a gun in any situation. An AR can be used in any situation with a Spartan, CQC or mid range.
He obviously knows his guns.

[Edited on 10.31.2009 12:39 AM PDT]

  • 10.31.2009 12:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
what would be the point of a spartan using a carbine?

sure a gun is a gun, but given the option an assault rifle would be more practical


You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A carbine is a shortened version more suitable for CQC.


yes but, my point is a carbine is lighter this would provide no advantage for a spartan matter in fact if any thing it would have greater recoil but that should not matter. and in CQC what dose a 4-6 inch barrel length difference matter when spartan leap 7 feet and beat your face in with there stock

probably should have mentioned i DO know what a carbine is before i posted that, my bad :)

  • 10.31.2009 12:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
what would be the point of a spartan using a carbine?

sure a gun is a gun, but given the option an assault rifle would be more practical


You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A carbine is a shortened version more suitable for CQC.


yes but, my point is a carbine is lighter this would provide no advantage for a spartan matter in fact if any thing it would have greater recoil but that should not matter. and in CQC what dose a 4-6 inch barrel length difference matter when spartan leap 7 feet and beat your face in with there stock

probably should have mentioned i DO know what a carbine is before i posted that, my bad :)


Yeah see, Czar knows what he's talking about.

  • 10.31.2009 12:40 AM PDT
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Thx

  • 10.31.2009 12:41 AM PDT
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True, carbine is not much use for a Spartan, unless it's the Covenant Carbine :P Which is not actually a carbine at all... at least from human perspective.

There's a little reason for MA5K to be in.. but Halos feature pistols and SMGs which too are pretty useless for Spartans.

Ideally, i'd like to see multiple variants of weapons. MA5B and K, M6D and E, for example.

  • 10.31.2009 5:33 AM PDT

I'm a CEman

Posted by: superplayer08
It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MA5K_Carbine

lolno
There are plenty of guns that are in the books but not in the games.

  • 10.31.2009 6:17 AM PDT

Posted by: Bluesman
Also, a few of us were talking during matchmaking and Halo: Reach is definitely going to be, not a first person shooter, not a third person shooter, but a second person shooter. Bungie is going to revolutionize the way you watch other people play games.

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
mussel velocity


Laf. Now I just picture someone throwing mussels at incredible speeds.

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Posted by: superplayer08
It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MA5K_Carbine/] am i realy first to post a working link?
Fail.

Massive Fail.

  • 10.31.2009 6:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: superplayer08
It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/MA5K_Carbine/] am i realy first to post a working link?


Nope, I am.

  • 10.31.2009 12:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: superplayer08
It iss the only gun that has been in books and not in the games.
No it's not.

  • 10.31.2009 12:09 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Carbine = shorter barrel configuration.

Shorter barrel: less muzzle velocity, less power.

Even if the MA5K uses the same ammunition as the AR, it should have less power and less accuracy.

  • 10.31.2009 12:15 PM PDT

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We laughed, knowing better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
He wars on Death, for lives: not men, for flags.
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Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
mussel velocity


Laf. Now I just picture someone throwing mussels at incredible speeds.

Haha, I thought of the exact same thing.

I would like to see the MA5K though, merely for the fact that more diversity in weapons.

  • 10.31.2009 12:30 PM PDT