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Subject: Do you want optional class based gametypes?
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

I want class based to be AT LEAST optional. I'm getting kinda bored with the traditional halo formula.

  • 11.02.2009 8:17 PM PDT

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You know what?

What the hey, Class based FTW!

  • 11.02.2009 8:19 PM PDT

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  • 11.02.2009 8:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

Posted by: Meteor78
I'm afraid I don't understand the question. (I'm a newb 0.o)
Class-based means that there are different people that you can be, called "classes". Each class has certain special abilities and they start with certain weapons. Call of Duty is kinda class-based. CoD is a bad example, but it's a mainstream one.

  • 11.02.2009 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Spearmint
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Spearmint
As pleasing as it sounds to both sides of the argument to have a class and classic mm would by the time H:R reaches it's medieval life having the two playlists would divide the community too much or be a waste of servers for one of the playlists and would eventually get shut down.

not to mention the how hard it would be to balance the weapons in a way that both classic-halo and class-based games would both work. Just saying EPIC FAIL!
The community being divided happens with ALL different gametypes, its not like people aren't going to have preferances, and its not much of a big deal even if playlists start to become less populated (WHICH THEY WON'T).

Oh no, its HARD!!! THEY SHOULDN'T DO IT, THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE DESIGNING A NEW VIDEO GAME!!! GOD HELP US, HELP US ALL!!!

You really need to take a chill pill. This is a forum for open discussion I'm stating my opinion why I believe your idea isn't practical. If you want a dictatorial forum where everyone agrees with you go start one and talk to the people that join it. (WHICH NO ONE WILL... EXCEPT THE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS YOU MAKE)
Multiple accounts? I'm a rude and desperate piece of -blam!-, but I'm not going to take the noob way and make multiple accounts.

I don't even have a freaking General yet.

EDIT: And you said I failed, you're mean.
I never said you failed. In fact, I said that having both playlists was pleasing (I liked this idea) but the problems associated with implementing it are astronomical (in the sense that what we see in the sky at night appears to be a 2D measureable plane when it is infact a 3D expansion of space that is inmeasureable.) in other words it seems like an easy idea but it would actually be really hard.

  • 11.02.2009 8:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Disparil
Anyway Happy Trolling Wolfy,

they're taking the bait...

I'm hoping this isn't a troll. If so, wolf is the worse troll ever. You really shouldn't be looking to draw out exapseration. There's no thrill in that.

[Edited on 11.02.2009 8:26 PM PST]

  • 11.02.2009 8:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

Posted by: Meteor78
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Posted by: Meteor78
I'm afraid I don't understand the question. (I'm a newb 0.o)
Class-based means that there are different people that you can be, called "classes". Each class has certain special abilities and they start with certain weapons. Call of Duty is kinda class-based. CoD is a bad example, but it's a mainstream one.

Ahh. Thanks. My answer would be maybe. If it depended on armor and race, then yes, that would be a really good thing to do. If it was based on rank, then no. Let's say your rank has your favorite weapon. You win a lot of games with that weapon, and now you rank up. This has 2 problems.

1. You just lost your favorite weapon
2. You ranked up because you were using your favorite weapon.

So my answer would boil down to whether it was based on race or skill. So which?
Definitely no unlock system (as you called it, 'skill system'), because even if you can still use your earlier weapons, they unbalance the game incredibly. Better players have better guns, so they are even better than before.

  • 11.02.2009 8:29 PM PDT
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sorry for the confusing format, but here goes my further argument:

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: masterchef1
i will now give the rebuttals to your rebuttals.

1. WHAT IS THE POINT OF A SNIPER IF ANYBODY CAN SPAWN WITH ONE?
posted by: sh1n1ng wolf:
SO U CAN OWN AT LONG RANGE (or get into a sniper battle) AND SUCK AT CLOSE RANGE!!!


BUT I DON'T WANT TO SUCK AT SHORT RANGE! I WANT TO BE AS ADAPTABLE AS A REAL SPARTAN IN COMBAT!!


Posted by: masterchef1
2. eg: there is a ghost/gauss hog on the loose.

CLASS BASED: somebody dies, shot by the vehicle. that person spawns with a laser/rocket and kills the vehicle instantly.

TRADITIONAL: somebody dies, shot by the vehicle. they then proceed to get revenge through actual tactics, you know, plasma pistol, power drain, frag grenades, and FIGHTING FOR the power weapons. more skill this way, and vehicles are more relevant.
posted by: wolfie:
Are you kidding me? I never ever ever ever get killed with anything in a vehicle other than a Spartan Laser or Missle Pod. I must be godly or something, because that's all that can counter me driving a vehicle, and vice versa.

Chances are, vehicles wouldn't be one hit kill with Heavy's weapons anyway so there would be an actual battle going on instead of just a vehicle sniping spree.


umm, not all of us are "god".

Posted by: masterchef1
3. what about my sentinel beam? will it get cut?
posted by: ahm teh wolf:
If Bungie can put it into a class successfully, then yeah. If not, you'll still have it for regular games.


so basically, if it was an all class game, no sentinel beam. oh, and no redundant weapons like the PR and the PP unless there are covie classes and human classes, and that would mean more unbalancing.


Posted by:[/b] masterchef1
4. see #2
posted by: OMGs AHM T3H WOLFDAWG LOL
See your mom.


um, i'll see you in COURT.

Posted by: masterchef1
5. well, YOUR argument is asinine!
Posted by: wolf in da hood
MY FACE IS ASININE!!!


quite true.

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  • 11.02.2009 8:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
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I'm talking about base player traits that could be used to decide weapons, speed, etc. The default would probably be just weapons.

I don't know what perks are, I haven't played Call of Duty.
That sounds a lot like Call of Doody.

That was your response to my last question, to which I said that I have never played CoD. Obviously since I have not played CoD, I don't know why my idea is similar to it. From what I understand, you are suggesting a gametype where each player starts with a unique weapon set. I am suggesting the idea be made into a much more inclusive set of game options that will simply make a "class" gametype possible.

  • 11.02.2009 10:06 PM PDT

Sounds like an optional Star Wars Battlefront 2.
I would kill you for a console current generation console version.

  • 11.02.2009 10:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

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Posted by: Disparil
Anyway Happy Trolling Wolfy,

they're taking the bait...

I'm hoping this isn't a troll. If so, wolf is the worse troll ever. You really shouldn't be looking to draw out exapseration. There's no thrill in that.
I wasn't really trying to troll, but that's kind of what it turned into.

  • 11.05.2009 4:46 PM PDT

Wherever you roam
so far from home
you'll be safe from peril
life threatening and terrible
if you avoid David Powel
and keep track of your towel.

Classes and Classic are practically mutually exclusive, unless you don't mind both being crappy that is.

  • 11.05.2009 4:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: masterchef1
1. WHAT IS THE POINT OF A SNIPER IF ANYBODY CAN SPAWN WITH ONE?[/quote] posted by: sh1n1ng wolf:
SO U CAN OWN AT LONG RANGE (or get into a sniper battle) AND SUCK AT CLOSE RANGE!!!

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SUCK AT SHORT RANGE! I WANT TO BE AS ADAPTABLE AS A REAL SPARTAN IN COMBAT!![/QUOTE]Okay, lets look at how you start a match. You start with an Assult (might have spelled that wrong) Rifle (close to mid range) and a pistol (...meh...). You're only good at close range combat. You can go around trying to pick up different weapons, but that's not what a "real" Spartan would do, because a "real" Spartan would be able to start out with whatever the hell he wanted and swap out weapons as he or she saw fit.

If you want to talk about real Spartans, in the books, different Spartans were using cetain equipment and weapons for certain roles (Sniper, mines, ect). It just makes sense to use weapons you want to use if you were going to fight for your life and you were backed up by a kick ass military. Also, why do marines have different weapons when they drop into combat?

The current weapons are already designed to specialize in certain areas anyway. Pretty much the only differance between classic and class based is that you get to choose your weapon and abilities.

Also keep in mind you can stick to classic if you want to...

Posted by: masterchef1
2. eg: there is a ghost/gauss hog on the loose.

CLASS BASED: somebody dies, shot by the vehicle. that person spawns with a laser/rocket and kills the vehicle instantly.

TRADITIONAL: somebody dies, shot by the vehicle. they then proceed to get revenge through actual tactics, you know, plasma pistol, power drain, frag grenades, and FIGHTING FOR the power weapons. more skill this way, and vehicles are more relevant.[/quote] posted by: wolfie:
Are you kidding me? I never ever ever ever get killed with anything in a vehicle other than a Spartan Laser or Missle Pod. I must be godly or something, because that's all that can counter me driving a vehicle, and vice versa.

Chances are, vehicles wouldn't be one hit kill with Heavy's weapons anyway so there would be an actual battle going on instead of just a vehicle sniping spree.[/quote]

umm, not all of us are "god".
My point is that vehicles still be useful because they are, after all, vehicles. The weapons need to be slightly rebalanced for even the regular Halo gametypes anyway. *cough* BR *cough*

Its not like the dude with the Spartan Laser gets a free kill either, and I think I stated this before, but that red beam is really noticable.

Posted by: masterchef1
3. what about my sentinel beam? will it get cut?
posted by: ahm teh wolf:
If Bungie can put it into a class successfully, then yeah. If not, you'll still have it for regular games.


so basically, if it was an all class game, no sentinel beam. oh, and no redundant weapons like the PR and the PP unless there are covie classes and human classes, and that would mean more unbalancing.
How does that mean more unbalancing? The classes would be designed to not be able to go "PEW PEW PEW, I KILLD EVRI1 at all range and all sitewashiunz!!!".

If you want a Sentinel Beam, you can design your own class for it in a custom game, but at the same time, Bungie might even put be able to work it in there.

Posted by:[/b] masterchef1
4. see #2
posted by: OMGs AHM T3H WOLFDAWG LOL
See your mom.


um, i'll see you in COURT.
Will I see your mom there?

Posted by: masterchef1
5. well, YOUR argument is asinine!
Posted by: wolf in da hood
MY FACE IS ASININE!!!


quite true.

I tried to work with your format...

[Edited on 11.05.2009 5:18 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 5:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
I would kill you for a console current generation console version.
You do that...

  • 11.05.2009 5:17 PM PDT