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Posted by: Mythic 22 T
Posted by: CrippleFox
I see your point but the example with the Assault Rifle... well... that's a stacked scenario. That's a two on one. It could easily be any other weapon two on one and the Battle Rifle user is most likely to lose assuming the other two players are not being interrupted by someone else have are decent enought to hit with most of their shots.
Eh, in any 1v1 situation where the players are a few feet apart, and 1 player is an AR user and the other is a BR user, I'll promise anyone that the AR will win most of the time. Yeah, the 2v1 situation was uneccessary and makes the BR seem more powerful than it actually is.
Posted by: CrippleFox
The Battle Rifle is great in MOST situations. If you have a sniper shooting at you from across the map, you may not be able to kill him but you can stall and get closer by making them zoom out by shooting them. As you get closer, using cove and such you can now use grenades and have an effective firefight with the sniper at mid to close range and most likely win. In close combat all you need to do is melee and shoot or shoot and melee. Unless it's the carbine, no other weapon can counter every other weapon like the Battle Rifle can. Either way, they took it out of ODST for my reasons, it was too powerfull, to accessable and too easy to use in every situation. The pistol in ODST isn't effective against shields but once those shields are gone you have an open opperotunity to headshot them. You need to get there first using another weapon though which makes the game more interesting gameplay wise. Which, as someone else said, will be what Bungie looks at before story and canon.
Regarding the Sniper comment: You're assuming that this Sniper player is stupid and isn't moving around when they know they're in danger, OR they don't have something like a Shotgun, Mauler, Sword, OR a teammate isn't there to help them. Yes, stuff like what you said happens, but it usually doesn't take 1 BR user to take out a Sniper who is aware of said BR user.
Regarding close combat comment: I'll reference what I said in your previous quote. More times than not, an AR, Shotgun, Sword, SMG, etc user will kill a BR user at close range than not. Again, it does happen, but not as often where the BR will get the kill the majority of the time.
The BR is overused, NOT overpowered. The problem is, is that Halo's (heck, any FPS out there) gameplay is geared towards mid range combat, but most of the weapons are geared towards close range. Thus where you see the BR's dominance. Weapons suited for close range are being used out of their effective ranges, then you have people complaing about the weapon.
If the BR is a large problem with gameplay (and it's not, you NEED weapons that work at mid range and can kill /magnumfailsrant), then there are more solutions than simply removing the BR. How about creating more weapons that fit in mid range (such as ODST's SMG and Pistol) that close the gap between close and mid range and restrict the BR's placement around maps? That way, people can still operate guns at medium range (so gameplay isn't totally destroyed), but the BR isn't overused.
Hey, if I come off as offensive, I'm sorry. I was just making counter points, that's all. =)
My last two paragraphs weren't directed towards you, but more towards people who think the BR equates to bad gameplay.
No problem, I see your points but I still respectfully disagree. Bungie is with me, or atleast that one employee whos name I can't remember who hates Battle Rifles. They agree enough with me to even take it out of ODST.