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Subject: Why reach will NOT have the BR!

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Posted by: Grunt Returns
I love how some people just KNOW certain things about Reach. It's so cute

Lol yeah we know absolutly nothing agreed.
I cant believe there isn't even a real trailer or something out there.

When will they show something?? I'm hyped over something I dont even know what it is.... thats weird.

  • 11.01.2009 7:42 AM PDT

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Wrong. I made a thread calling it Halo 4 and had a bunch of proof to back it up. My main evidence was that in the source code to one of Microsoft/Bungies Halo Game websites it said Halo 4 BETA is included with Halo 3: ODST. One of the Bungie employees came on to my thread and (rudely) said it was code for Reach.
Halo 4


Right, my bad, sorry. :P I just sort of jumped to conclusions.
In either case, it's right there infront of you, you could even do it yourself.
odmichael is not a Bungie employee. Anyone with orange writing isn't a Bungie employee. Look for the gold writing.

  • 11.01.2009 7:43 AM PDT

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You remove the BR you turn off a lot of people from the game.

  • 11.01.2009 7:52 AM PDT

Posted by: ST54 JB
You remove the BR you turn off a lot of people from the game.

Add the Halo 1 pistol. Problem solved.

  • 11.01.2009 7:54 AM PDT

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lol
How about just scrap reach.

Re-release Halo 1 with Live MP

everbody hapy :P

  • 11.01.2009 7:57 AM PDT

Posted by: Geoxbreather
lol
How about just scrap reach.

Re-release Halo 1 with Live MP

everbody hapy :P

^This. Except I want Reach too :(

  • 11.01.2009 8:00 AM PDT
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are you guys seriouse? you really want a game where if you see an opponent you cant really do anything about it? A strong all around primary weapon has been a hallmark of th ehalo series and it can be argued that halo is in part defined by that aspect of game play.

part of what makes halo unique in the world of FPS is that there are not such drastic shifts in power in the weapons. This is so becuase everyone spawns with a powerful weapon (the BR) So for the majority of the time players are not wiped out helplessly just from one guy with a strong weapon. Instead they have the ability to fight anyone with whatever weapon they have. Sure power weapons like rockets, shotgun, and sniper can easily take a BR weilding opponent if used correctly but the fact remains and occurs often that the BR weilder can make a decent fight and sometimes win.

this fact is not possible with a wepaon like the AR which is helpless agianst rockets and even more so froma sniper which it can do NOTHING about at a certain range.

a strong all around gun has been what has made halo halo since its induction. For those of you who wish for thigns ot go back to halo 1 days then you have to remember the all mighty pistol which makes the BR look weak and was MUCH more powerful. Halo CE was what spawned this frnchise into what we have today and is what made halo as popular as it is. Removing such a critical piece of halo gameplay will thus make halo NOT halo

  • 11.01.2009 8:03 AM PDT

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Are you saying that militaries won't have rifles 500 years from now? Last time I checked we DO have rifles that are used from mid to short range. It may not be a battle rifle, but it will still be realistic if there is a rifle that functions like a BR.

"Having a BR wouldnt make it realistic". You guys are hilarious.

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^ Agrees ak-47 (basically)= AR M14 and M16 = BR

but


agrees with OP yes they were introduced during the Fall of Reach BUT that wasnt untill the remaining Spartans fell back to CASTLE. which is in Hallo: First Strike.

  • 11.01.2009 8:08 AM PDT

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exactly!
and even if the game doesn't have a BR doesn't mean it won't be a great game. ODST was great and there was no BR.

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if the Br is taking out, so what.

Bungie took out the Halo 1 pistol but people still bought Halo 2.

They took out the BR in ODST and people still bought it.

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ur right!

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for a storyline point of view the br is not realistic

The BRs a very powerful gun but its barrle would get dirty or overheat very easily thats why Odst dont use then.

In real life a soldier would have to clean or even replace the barrle every Ohh 3 clips.

ok to but you in a marines shoes your behind cover your holding a street u stand up to fire and ur BRs barrle explodes because their is a peice of dirt in the barrle. you dont panic because u have got another barrle. but ur ****** because those brute u were going to shot are charging down the street towards u.

Ok u many ask why do the marine in halo 2 and 3 use them well on halo 2 those are navy marines who are traind for ship to ship boarding were mud or dirt is not a problem. Halo 3 the reason marines us Brs is because all of earths factorys to make weapons are gone so they have to use anything they can get. Plus Navy marine and Ground Marine units would be mix together to keep squads at full strengh. So Navy marine will be using Brs because they are use to using then.

His is my theory

  • 11.01.2009 10:25 AM PDT

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if the Br is taking out, so what.

Bungie took out the Halo 1 pistol but people still bought Halo 2.

They took out the BR in ODST and people still bought it.

Well right, but Halo 2 is considerd to be the lesser in the serie. And I've got the feeling that the same is for ODST.

ALtough that isnt the BR's fault hehe.
I think that the game needs weapons for different ranges, short/mid/long range.

But not the BR imo, its to good overall.

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Posted by: ST54 JB
You remove the BR you turn off a lot of people from the game.

Add the Halo 1 pistol. Problem solved.


why not have both?

  • 11.02.2009 3:52 AM PDT

poop

Halo CE was the best Halo game, it was also the only game that did not include the BR.

  • 11.02.2009 4:05 AM PDT

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Yeah, but Halo CE wasn't all awesome because of it's weapons.
It was because it had awesome foe's (elites) and the AI was stunning for it's time.

THAT';s why its awesome :P

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Posted by: Geoxbreather
Yeah, but Halo CE wasn't all awesome because of it's weapons.
It was because it had awesome foe's (elites) and the AI was stunning for it's time.

THAT';s why its awesome :P


Plus every weapons was useful.

If people don't buy it because it doesn;t include a BR. Then great! I don't really wanna play with people who judge their purchases based on what weapons are in the game, rather than the gameplay itself.

  • 11.02.2009 4:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Geoxbreather
Yeah, but Halo CE wasn't all awesome because of it's weapons.
It was because it had awesome foe's (elites) and the AI was stunning for it's time.

THAT';s why its awesome :P


Plus every weapons was useful.

If people don't buy it because it doesn;t include a BR. Then great! I don't really wanna play with people who judge their purchases based on what weapons are in the game, rather than the gameplay itself.


Uhm, there have been alot of BR haters saying if its in the game, they will not buy it. No matter what, you will be playing with a group whos decision was made becuase of one gun.

And chances are they will have BRs, cause if you read the books, they handed out prototypes around that time for field testing. Its kinda funny how people claim that there will be no BR cause they arent out, yet there is proof they were around then, just not mass produced.

Also, they would call Halo: Reach Halo 4 cause they only had to do multiplayer beta testing with 4 Halo games, so this would be the 4th of these ones.

But there will be a Halo 4, its already confirmed, Bungie isnt making it. 343 Industries is.

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Posted by: Geoxbreather
Yeah, but Halo CE wasn't all awesome because of it's weapons.
It was because it had awesome foe's (elites) and the AI was stunning for it's time.

THAT';s why its awesome :P


Plus every weapons was useful.

If people don't buy it because it doesn;t include a BR. Then great! I don't really wanna play with people who judge their purchases based on what weapons are in the game, rather than the gameplay itself.


Uhm, there have been alot of BR haters saying if its in the game, they will not buy it. No matter what, you will be playing with a group whos decision was made becuase of one gun.

And chances are they will have BRs, cause if you read the books, they handed out prototypes around that time for field testing. Its kinda funny how people claim that there will be no BR cause they arent out, yet there is proof they were around then, just not mass produced.

Also, they would call Halo: Reach Halo 4 cause they only had to do multiplayer beta testing with 4 Halo games, so this would be the 4th of these ones.

But there will be a Halo 4, its already confirmed, Bungie isnt making it. 343 Industries is.


So much is wrong there.

First off: BR prototypes were on Reach, but wern't seen in the Battle of Reach. Only during First Strike did they appear.

I know people wont buy it if there are no BR's. I'm glad. I don't want to play with people like that.

No, Reach is Halo: Reach. It's not the 4th Halo game, it's the 6th (If you include ODST) It's its own game however. Not the 6th in the series.

Halo 4 has not been confirmed. 343 will be in charge of Halo. If they make a Halo 4, Halo: CE - 3 will be completely ruined story wise.

  • 11.02.2009 4:37 AM PDT

I was saying there are people who WONT buy if there ARE BRs. No matter what, you will be playing with a group who made a choice over a gun.

I was refering to another thread where MICROSOFT called Halo Reach Halo 4. Because of the multiplayer. I know it is not the 4th game, and its actually the 5th that bungie made, 4th with online multiplayer.

And your saying they had BRs on Reach, but they did not use them? Thats unlikely.

Halo 4 HAS Been confirmed by 343 as a planned game. Heres a general quote.

"343 is planing to pick up where Bungie left off, creating Halo 4 that takes place with the cut scene where Master Cheif and Cortana are floating towards a mysteryous planet in space."



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  • 11.02.2009 4:47 AM PDT

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At above...
Where is the source of this information, as I like to read more about studio 343, I cant find much about it.

I find it hard to believe that people will actually not buy the game if it has not the BR. After a day or to, if they see all thei're friends play online, they will chance there mind, trust me.

It's Halo after all hehehe.

  • 11.02.2009 4:51 AM PDT

343 Industries News

They do basicly confirm a Halo 4 in the second paragraph I think, they just dont go into detail.

If anyone else has the link where they actually say they are making a Halo 4 please post it, I had to redo my IE and lost all my old favorites. The one i managed to find was one of the 3-4 stories about Halo 4.

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  • 11.02.2009 4:56 AM PDT

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yes that would indeed be apriceated!
I can't find much...actually... anything decisive about 343 studios. However I do see the logo pop up somtime.

I expect not much from then until after Halo Reach.

  • 11.02.2009 5:02 AM PDT

They are the lead guys on Halo Waypoint, and Frank O'Connor has already proved to be good in the video game area.

Just watch Halo Waypoint (Planned to be on xbox live this thursday) for news.

Halo Waypoint Site

There you could probably find some info on them too.

  • 11.02.2009 5:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Geoxbreather
Simply because Halo reach is a new "area" of the Halo franchise.
Halo 1, 2 and 3 (and ODST) all spawned from halo 1.
expecting the BR and other things from the current halo games in Reach inst a realistic thought, as this game is not really in direct connection with Halo 1, 2 and 3.

The story might be related, but game play wise it will be different from 1/2/3/ODST since it doesn't continue the story we have seen so far.



Well that makes about as much sense as a screen-door airlock.

  • 11.02.2009 7:43 AM PDT

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