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Subject: Single-shot BR?
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Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: Spartan014B
I don't mind the BR as it is, I'm just saying a semi-auto version similar to the carbine would be cool, too.

We could also have a human needler that fills the same niche as the covenant needler. Or a human plasma rifle that also drains shields rapidly. But then things start to get a wee bit ridiculous.


OK we do have and use semi auto weapons today
I would expect in the future we would have a semi auto rifle

we do not have Plasma rifles and needlers today. and i could see us haveing then in the future but humans in halo are not to that point yet

so why would we not have a semi auto weapon just because the Covenant dose

  • 11.03.2009 7:17 PM PDT

that would be mod century

  • 11.03.2009 7:22 PM PDT

I used to get on these forums back in the Halo 1, anticipating Halo 2 days...I'm back :)

I like the semi auto idea, it would help balance the game, but that would make the Carbine (my favorite weapon) useless, because it would be basically the same weapon, only the BR would have more rounds in a magazine.

  • 11.03.2009 7:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: RabidNutCase45
As for a HUMAN semi-auto weapon, that'd be the pistol.

As for a HUMAN SEMI-AUTO RIFLE, that'd be the sniper.

Just live with the BR as it is.


- why is a pistol cartridge more effective than a rifle cartridge, I'm asking for realism but that contradicts common sense why not just give M6D to every one at that point.

- There is a vast difference to a small semi-auto rifle and a semi auto anti tank cannon.

- The BR as it is, is a Assault Rifle
I never said that pistol is more effective than a rifle or that the sniper rifle is an anti-tank cannon, but the BR does behave more like an Assault Rifle than it should. What I meant is that there's already weapons that fill certain niches, and having the BR fill the niche of the Carbine and Pistol would be redundant (Which is also my word of the day).

The BR should behave more like an actual battle rifle and fire from a longer range at the expense of CQC functionality, but I still think it should be a burst rifle.

  • 11.03.2009 7:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: Spartan014B
I don't mind the BR as it is, I'm just saying a semi-auto version similar to the carbine would be cool, too.

We could also have a human needler that fills the same niche as the covenant needler. Or a human plasma rifle that also drains shields rapidly. But then things start to get a wee bit ridiculous.


OK we do have and use semi auto weapons today
I would expect in the future we would have a semi auto rifle

we do not have Plasma rifles and needlers today. and i could see us haveing then in the future but humans in halo are not to that point yet

so why would we not have a semi auto weapon just because the Covenant dose

Because having the same type of weapons get a little redundant.

  • 11.03.2009 7:27 PM PDT

i semi auto BR wouldnt put enough damage though. the bullets are tiny and only 1 isnt going to affect you that much unless the caliber of the bullet is much larger

  • 11.03.2009 7:29 PM PDT

I'm beginning to agree with you guys. The burst fire is better for close quarters, and a semi-auto rifle would be too similar to the carbine.

  • 11.03.2009 7:33 PM PDT

Death to escape artists.

Posted by: RabidNutCase4 The BR should behave more like an actual battle rifle and fire from a longer range at the expense of CQC functionality, but I still think it should be a burst rifle.
Sad face, I don't want BR no scopes, too!

  • 11.03.2009 7:35 PM PDT

Death to escape artists.

What calibur bullet does the BR55 use, anyway?

  • 11.03.2009 7:37 PM PDT

sounds like a 30 or less. in the videos the bullets are tiney

  • 11.03.2009 7:39 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

No. We already have the carbine for that.

And switching fire modes isn't necessary.

  • 11.03.2009 7:41 PM PDT

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they should make the BR have smg-like recoil on it's burst fire, each bullet causes the reticule to go up a little bit, to make it less of an all around weapon that anyone can use.

If they make it single shot then they would need to increase the power to make it useful, otherwise people would have to be shot 12 times to be killed, if all the shots land of course

  • 11.03.2009 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: RabidNutCase45
I never said that pistol is more effective than a rifle


what i am looking for is an accurate long range semi auto weapon, the M6D filled that roll and it was ungodly. you never said it was more effective than a rifle but it is.

Posted by: RabidNutCase45
that the sniper rifle is an anti-tank cannon,


The sniper in Halo fires a 14.5x114mm round. tghis is bigger than the .50cal BMG we use today. and a .50 cal have been known to penetrate light tanks

Posted by: RabidNutCase45
but the BR does behave more like an Assault Rifle than it should. What I meant is that there's already weapons that fill certain niches, and having the BR fill the niche of the Carbine and Pistol would be redundant (Which is also my word of the day).


i don't believe a human semi auto rifle would be redundant of the carbine, it like saying the sniper makes the beam rifle redundant

Posted by: RabidNutCase45
The BR should behave more like an actual battle rifle and fire from a longer range at the expense of CQC functionality, but I still think it should be a burst rifle.


well technically there is no assault rifle in all of halo
the entire MA5 series are Battle rifles.

battle rifle is just an Assault rife that fires an over-sized bullet, weight and balance have been known to be cumbersome. but a spartan could easily use a 4 foot long 20 pound sniper rifle while running. and in CQC what dose 6 to 8 inches of extra barrel length matter a spartan that could leap 6 feet and smash a Brutes face in with his stock.

the MA5 and BR55 are both Battle rifles
but I think the MA5 should be the jack of all trades rifle and the BR55 should be more of a marksman's rifle.

  • 11.03.2009 7:48 PM PDT
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[Edited on 11.03.2009 7:51 PM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 7:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: force recon2013
sounds like a 30 or less. in the videos the bullets are tiney


the BR actually shoots a 9.5x40mm. it makes no sense

[Edited on 11.03.2009 7:54 PM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 7:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

The triggers on the Xbox 360 controller have sensors for how far the triggers are depressed, as seen in every game that has driving controlled by the triggers, as well as in the game The Darkness, where if you pulled the trigger slowly the hammer on a handgun would realistically begin to move backwards.

With this same sensor, I believe a partial trigger pull could register as a single shot, and a full trigger pull as a 3 round burst.

Is this going to happen? Probably not. Is it that simple? Probably not. Do I have any experience programming? Yes. Do I have any experience programming games? No.

Just an idea.

  • 11.03.2009 9:00 PM PDT

that would be hard to shoot repedidly

i think there should be a charecter that can duel wield two handed weapons like BRs and ARs. sound cool?

[Edited on 11.03.2009 9:05 PM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 9:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: IonicPaul
Semi auto Battle Rifle would allow for much more balanced gameplay. It wouldn't be LOL BUTTON MASH, but it would be near pull-trigger-as-fast-as-you-can fast. Like, faster than the carbine but slower than the automag.

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  • 11.03.2009 9:21 PM PDT

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why not just bring back the pistol instead

[Edited on 11.03.2009 9:24 PM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 9:24 PM PDT

Personally, I think an actual "skilled" person in Halo 3 is someone who knows how to win with every weapon and combo in the game, not just a single weapon like the BR, Sniper, or even the AR. Of course, that excludes me, as I have yet to get a kill with dual plasma pistols. :D

I've read some posts in this topic about how there should be two options, since burst fire is better for close range and single shot is better for long range. This is completely true. And it's why the BR should be single shot.

The original purpose of the gun, so I heard, was to be a counter to the sniper. It's not powerful by any standard, but it has very good range and accuracy, great for harassing them by making it impossible for them to stay scoped. The best way to actually make the BR be used for its intended niche instead of as a do-all would be to change it to single-shot.

[Edited on 11.03.2009 11:27 PM PST]

  • 11.03.2009 9:35 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

ehh.. just give me back the CE pistol with a scope and can kill in 4 shots

then the BR will be finally be considered newbie instead of skilled

well only newbie if the BR vs the Pistol since the Pistol would take more skill but would be worth it because it can still kill in the same amount of shots.

Although vs all the other weapons the BR would still be considered skillfull

  • 11.03.2009 11:18 PM PDT

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No BR at all

  • 11.03.2009 11:24 PM PDT

I'm glad someone made this thread. Single shot BR ftw.

=)

  • 11.04.2009 12:59 AM PDT
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it would be good if you could switch between single burst and automatic firing

  • 11.04.2009 3:05 AM PDT

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