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Subject: Why do people think the M6D auto-mag is OP?

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I don't really get why people think the M6D auto-mag is overpowered because in 3 headshots it can kill some one. When it stacks up like this to the other weapons.

You say 3 shot kill is over kill when lets see:
Sniper- 1-2 shot kill
Rocket 1-2 shot kill
Fuel Rod 2-3 shot kill
Gravity Hammer 1-2 melee kill
Energy Sword 1-### (depends if the other person has energy sword) kill

BR 4+ shot kill
Plasma Pistol 1 over charged shot and 1 melee
AR melee then any were between 5-10 shots
shotgun 1-2 shot kill
needler 8-10 needles
mauler 2-3 shot kill
spiker half a clip
beam rifle 1-2 shot kill
Carbine (look at BR)
missile pod 1+ shot kill



If you think the M6D is overpowered when compaired to the rest of them, your a sad, sad man/woman/child. Visit


When stacked up like this, how can people think the M6D is over powered?

  • 11.05.2009 6:10 AM PDT

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Agreed, but you can't have the AR and PP in there. If you can say "one melee and 15 shots" for the AR, you can say "one melee and 1 shot" for the Pistol.

  • 11.05.2009 6:13 AM PDT

You are more likely to melee with an AR because of its effective range. The pistol, IMO, was very slightly OP. 4 shots to kill would have been perfect, but people need to realize that it wasn't really easy to 3 shot someone, your aim had to be perfect.

  • 11.05.2009 6:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

I don't think the M6D is the original poster, I think it's over-powered. /sarcasm

I can think it's over-powered because it's rapid fire, high damage, and effective at every single range.

It's way faster than the battle rifle, sniper, or shotgun.

Unless headshot by the sniper, caught at close range with the shotgun, hit by the rocket launcher, or caught off-guard by a vehicle (it can still kill vehicles very effectively), the magnum is unstoppable.

  • 11.05.2009 6:25 AM PDT

You can easily overpower a pistol bearer if you get them with the right weapon or you know how to put yourself in a good situation.

  • 11.05.2009 6:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to be afraid of someone carrying a damn SIDEARM, for God's sake. I should be afraid of the guy with the shotgun, or the sniper. Jeez.

I've had a few too many of these arguments; pardon my anger.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 6:33 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 6:33 AM PDT

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I told you to look out, but know, you got in my way, was going to shoot that splaser....

Anger is pardoned.
I'm just a tad upset that with the new Halo game coming out, people have desided to -blam!- that the M6D is overpowered instead of the BR55HB SR. I can understand why. "Why should a pistol be as strong as a rifle?" But understand this, a Glock or Desert Eagle sidearm can be just as deadly as an M16 or ak-47 when aimed, correct?

So awnser this, why does everyone have to complain about things that may or maynot be in a game, not many people compained about the silenced scoped pistol and smg, just about how the campain was to short.

  • 11.05.2009 6:51 AM PDT

Posted by: IonicPaul
That's the thing. I shouldn't have to be afraid of someone carrying a damn SIDEARM, for God's sake. I should be afraid of the guy with the shotgun, or the sniper. Jeez.

I've had a few too many of these arguments; pardon my anger.


You can easily overpower it, though, with almost any weapon. They're all better in certain situations, while the pistol is pretty good in most situations.

  • 11.05.2009 7:00 AM PDT

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Most people never really used it, they only heard stories of its magnificence and power......Not everyone can take down a banshee on any difficulty harder than easy. Noone can kill a tank with one alone. Snipers really do not fear the M6D at range, up close, they respect it and use it.
Another misconception of Halo: Combat Evolved is that it is a pistol fest. It is not. Everyone is running around with a rifle and some other weapon. Only snipers and people with rocket launchers use it.

  • 11.05.2009 7:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Cynisperer
Anger is pardoned.
I'm just a tad upset that with the new Halo game coming out, people have desided to -blam!- that the M6D is overpowered instead of the BR55HB SR. I can understand why. "Why should a pistol be as strong as a rifle?" But understand this, a Glock or Desert Eagle sidearm can be just as deadly as an M16 or ak-47 when aimed, correct?

So awnser this, why does everyone have to complain about things that may or maynot be in a game, not many people compained about the silenced scoped pistol and smg, just about how the campain was to short.


You could effectively play Halo CE multiplayer without using anything but the sidearm that you spawned with; in fact, it was preferable. Obviously this ruins the balance of the multiplayer game.

Its not about realism... of course a pistol can be as deadly as a rifle. But it doesn't make a good game.

EDIT: also, your fancy little chart only accounts for how many shots it takes to kill, and fails to account for the range and firing rates of the weapons.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 7:30 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 7:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: IonicPaul
That's the thing. I shouldn't have to be afraid of someone carrying a damn SIDEARM, for God's sake. I should be afraid of the guy with the shotgun, or the sniper. Jeez.

I've had a few too many of these arguments; pardon my anger.
So... you're saying that the pistol is not overpowered, just that it was unrealistic, right? Because the fact that it is a side arm has absolutely NOTHING to do with balance.

(take into account also that the Halo 1 Pistol and Halo 1 Shotgun are the only two relatively realistic weapons, the others all being extremely under-powered)

  • 11.05.2009 9:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
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or a huge projectile explode on your face? or a .50 cal shot to the head?
...
The M6D Pistol fires 12.7x40mm (.50 cal) high-explosive magnum rounds.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 9:53 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 9:50 AM PDT

I don't particularly care about realism in a game about aliens that takes place 500 years in the future. I imagine gas operated projectile weapons won't even exist anymore by then.

I care about the balance, gameplay and fun factor of the game. And when you spawn in the game with a pistol that is laser accurate across every map, kills in 3 shots at a high rate of fire, and basically makes every weapon besides the rocket launcher and sniper rifle obsolete, it kind of ruins the game.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 9:59 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 9:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: L3GEND411
I care about the balance, gameplay and fun factor of the game. And when you spawn in the game with a pistol
Who cares that it's a pistol? Why specify? that is laser accurate across every map,Its projectiles disappear at 126 meters, and the aim assist disappears at around 80 meters. It was most certainly NOT laser-accurate (HeH was about 100 meters end to end, BG was about 500 meters end to end). kills in 3 shots at a high rate of fire,Reduce the shots to kill to 5 but keep everything else the same. Perfect. and basically makes every weapon besides the rocket launcher and sniper rifle obsolete,Only if you're playing an unbalanced match, otherwise you would have known that in an evenly matched Halo 1 game (which most of us didn't get due to there being no matchmaking) you need to use EVERYTHING in order to come out on top, not just the pistol.

  • 11.05.2009 10:03 AM PDT

Only if you're playing an unbalanced match, otherwise you would have known that in an evenly matched Halo 1 game (which most of us didn't get due to there being no matchmaking) you need to use EVERYTHING in order to come out on top, not just the pistol.

BS, I played on xbox connect practically every day.

http://gameroom.mlgpro.com/view/5c821Mr4XgQ.html

Here's a video of a tournament match between StK and TDT, widely considered to be two of the best Halo 1 teams ever. CTF on battle creek.

Why is it that no one in the entire game gets a kill with anything but the pistol, sniper, or rockets?

  • 11.05.2009 10:11 AM PDT
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Change it to 5-headshot kill (It has a fairly high RoF which puts me off of suggesting a 3 shot kill), and reskin it as a rifle, then i'm good (IMO, a good opportunity to give us the single-shot BR that we've all wanted since the Halo 2 E3 demo).

[Edited on 11.05.2009 10:28 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 10:25 AM PDT

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The M6D is overpowered because it can put out those 3 shots faster than a BR can put out 2, it was effectively a Carbine that killed in 3 shots. The M6G is far more balanced, the lower fire rate and 5 shot kill is BARELY slower than the BR, and if you dual wield, it is (provided you shoot both at the same time) a 4 shot kill that is actually FASTER than the BR.

I say the M6C Socom is the best option, it maintains the Zoom, and headshot power, but lacks in Shield damage. This means combining it with a weapon that has high anti-shield power, like say a Plasma Rifle, will be aweseome. Stand-alone weapons should really not exist, you can carry TWO weapons and should have to use those TWO weapons to survive. This is why the BR is OK, at least at close range it actually loses to other guns, the M6D NEVER did.



[Edited on 11.05.2009 11:11 AM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 11:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
The M6D is overpowered because it can put out those 3 shots faster than a BR can put out 2, and was capable of killing a tank in 7 shots.

I say the M6C Socom is the best option, it maintains the Zoom, and headshot power, but lacks in Shield damage. This means combining it with a weapon that has high anti-shield power, like say a Plasma Rifle, will be aweseome. Stand-alone weapons should really not exist, you can carry TWO weapons and should have to use those TWO weapons to survive. This is why the BR is OK, at least at close range it actually loses to other guns, the M6D NEVER did.


Shotgun, and splatter.

  • 11.05.2009 11:11 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Cynisperer
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
The M6D is overpowered because it can put out those 3 shots faster than a BR can put out 2, and was capable of killing a tank in 7 shots.

I say the M6C Socom is the best option, it maintains the Zoom, and headshot power, but lacks in Shield damage. This means combining it with a weapon that has high anti-shield power, like say a Plasma Rifle, will be aweseome. Stand-alone weapons should really not exist, you can carry TWO weapons and should have to use those TWO weapons to survive. This is why the BR is OK, at least at close range it actually loses to other guns, the M6D NEVER did.


Shotgun, and splatter.

If I remember correctly the M6D fired it's quick 3 shots faster than the shotgun could make it's 2nd. And I distinctly remember dodging incoming vehicles and banshees many times in Halo CE PC, taking them out with at most half a clip of pistol ammo.

  • 11.05.2009 11:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
The M6D is overpowered because it can put out those 3 shots faster than a BR can put out 2, it was effectively a Carbine that killed in 3 shots. The M6G is far more balanced, the lower fire rate and 5 shot kill is BARELY slower than the BR, and if you dual wield, it is (provided you shoot both at the same time) a 4 shot kill that is actually FASTER than the BR.

I say the M6C Socom is the best option, it maintains the Zoom, and headshot power, but lacks in Shield damage. This means combining it with a weapon that has high anti-shield power, like say a Plasma Rifle, will be aweseome. Stand-alone weapons should really not exist, you can carry TWO weapons and should have to use those TWO weapons to survive. This is why the BR is OK, at least at close range it actually loses to other guns, the M6D NEVER did.



Really? I remember killing, and being killed by, plamsa rifles, shotguns, assault rifles, sniper rifles and rockets at close quarters while either using or shooting at someone using an M6D. Three shot kills did not happen every single time, as a matter of fact, 5-7 shot kills were the norm, depending on range and map. If you need no further proof, go watch this and tell me how many CQB three shots you see. Not many. As a matter of fact, I didn't see that many three shots at all. Especially compared to how much people whine about the three shot kills.

  • 11.05.2009 11:36 AM PDT

the BR and the M6 might have the same dmg but the BR has a better range and less knock back

  • 11.05.2009 11:55 AM PDT