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Subject: Should Firefight Return

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Poll: Should Firefight Return  [closed]
Hell Yes!:  88%
(59 Votes)
No dice!:  10%
(7 Votes)
What's a spartan?:  1%
(1 Votes)
Total Votes: 67

I really hope it comes back- as a MM playlist.

  • 11.05.2009 1:52 PM PDT

"This is for the Chief....wherever the hell he is"
--Sgt. Avery Johnson, Firefight

"This is for HARVEST...that's right I got a long memory"
--Sgt. Avery Johnson, Firefight

I say yes...FF is AWESOME.

  • 11.05.2009 1:54 PM PDT
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Is this even a question? :P
I don't think anyone could say "no". If it has Matchmaking, I'll be pleased.

  • 11.05.2009 1:55 PM PDT

"Die? Didn't you know? Spartans never die.."

Posted by: doctor woot
I seriously think that women were put on earth for the sole purpose of screwing over the balance of everything and giving logic the finger.


-owndizzld

A matchmaking firefight would be so awesome.

  • 11.05.2009 1:57 PM PDT

Roses are RED, violets are BLUE
all my BASES are belong to YOU!

You stole my post >:0
i say yes but add enemy option before game start i.e. brutes only, grunts only, hunter only or a combo. mabey flood unlockable?

  • 11.05.2009 2:00 PM PDT
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No, they should add a better waves gametype.

  • 11.05.2009 2:06 PM PDT

WHAMMIE!!

Posted by: Whalecow
mabey flood unlockable?


only a complete masochist would play through waves of flood

  • 11.05.2009 2:08 PM PDT
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id play waves of flood do you know how awesome and intense that would be? and yes they should bring it back

  • 11.05.2009 2:14 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Nope, waste of development and disk time.

  • 11.05.2009 2:16 PM PDT

Posted by: celtic revenge
Posted by: Whalecow
mabey flood unlockable?


only a complete masochist would play through waves of flood


This.

Posted by: zash208
Nope, waste of development and disk time.


Are you retarded?

[Edited on 11.05.2009 2:16 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 2:16 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Posted by: Mcgrady
Posted by: celtic revenge
Posted by: Whalecow
mabey flood unlockable?


only a complete masochist would play through waves of flood


This.

Posted by: zash208
Nope, waste of development and disk time.


Are you retarded?


Yup, me is a stoopicd on de hawo fowums!

  • 11.05.2009 2:18 PM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
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If it is improved. I got bored with Firefight a week after release. There needs to be more variety. Only 1 vehicle map? C'mon Bungie.

  • 11.05.2009 2:19 PM PDT

WHAMMIE!!

i think if there's more vehicle maps, then the covenant should get scarabs.

I hope they plan to use some of the vehicles from Halo Wars too.

  • 11.05.2009 2:22 PM PDT

FINISH THE FIGHT

maybe with a flood twist in there??????

  • 11.05.2009 2:36 PM PDT

No thanks. I'd rather be able to blow up other spartans again.

  • 11.05.2009 2:42 PM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

Yes. Or the campaign has to be 2000 times better than it is now

Problem 1: Set structure and difficulty
In ODST we already see 20+ hour Firefight matches. Many people need to play for hours to beat their previous records. In addition many are saying the game is too easy and won't get any more difficult once you get to set 5. People quit because they're bored or have to do something else. You can also get more lives than you lose which takes survival out of "survival mode"

Solution: Change the set structure. Remove or reduce the amount of unnecessary Rounds. Make it 5 waves = 1 set. Every 3rd or 5th Set you get an ammo drop and a new skull. This couldn't create any problems as the game can have "infinite sets", up to 1000 perhaps. I wouldn't mind getting rid of the Bonus Rounds either, they don't have any point because you can have as many Grunts normally as well. To make the game more difficult, remove or reduce the amount of extra lives majorly. You only get 7 lives and maybe 1 more for every 1 million points.

Result: People are more equally divided on sets. You could compare it to Matchmaking when some people have only reached Set 5 and some are on 50s. Less lives directly makes matches shorter and more difficult, brings in the survival into survival mode.


Problem 2: Lacking Haloverse
There is no Scorpion, there is no Banshee, there isn't even an officially driveable Wraith. There is no Flood, there are no Sentinels. You can't even see a Chopper and a Ghost at the same time on 1 map. You don't ever get AI allies either.

Solution: Simply add more maps that support multiple playstyles or only have a few maps (small, on-foot, Covenant) like in ODST. An example map list:
1. Small: Players vs Covenant
2. Medium: Players VS Covenant
3. Big: Players VS Covenant
4. Small: Players VS Flood
5. Big: Players VS Flood
6. Medium: Players VS Sentinels
7. Big: Players VS Covenant and Flood
8. Medium: Players VS Flood and Sentinels
9. Medium: Players VS Covenant and Sentinels
10. Huge: Players VS Covenant, Flood and Sentinels
Only 10 maps with a ton more variety than the ODST Firefight maps have.
The different races (Covenant, Flood, Sentinels) would battle with each other a little, but focus on the players like they do in Combat Evolved. AI would also priorize bigger and smaller threats. If you only try to avoid fighting, you won't get any points.
You would also get AI ally reinforcements differently on each map. On some you don't get them at all, on some you only get a few, on some you get them quite a lot; on some they are real marines, on some they are weaker police or alike.

Result: Bring all the Halo in Firefight. All the characters, weapons, vehicles and allies. They are what makes Halo. Firefight isn't canonical so having Flood even if Reach campaign doesn't have it is possible.


Problem 3: Connectivity
You need to play with friends and can't join ongoing games.
Solution: Add Matchmaking and ability to join ongoing games. The latter can't ruin anything if you can only join Open matches, your score starts from 0 and the team won't get extra lives.
Result: Matchmaking makes Firefight big and easy to access. Joining matches allows people to party up comfortably, although you probably can't reach great high scores like it.


TL;DR conclusion:
1. Remove Rounds
2. Less to none extra lives
3. Add all weapons, vehicles, enemies and allies
4. Matchmaking

  • 11.05.2009 2:51 PM PDT

WHAMMIE!!

i think it's good for the waves to keep mixing enemies tbh, otherwise you'd just stick to the same weapons and kick ass. It's only when you find yourself caught off guard with the wrong weapon that makes it interesting.

  • 11.05.2009 2:57 PM PDT
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Positive vibes.

I guess so yeah. I mean "Why not?"

  • 11.05.2009 2:58 PM PDT
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Between playing Halo and World of Warcraft, I must be the poo-bah nerd.

Pass.

Firefight was extremely disappointing.

  • 11.05.2009 2:58 PM PDT

(;3=

Posted by: jrod512ATX
I say yes...FF is AWESOME.

  • 11.05.2009 3:08 PM PDT

is it supposed to be cakes or cyacks

FF is so boaring i played it for an hour one day and that was enough repetition for me. there is no excitment to it at all. i say spend more time on Multiplayer and MM.

  • 11.05.2009 3:27 PM PDT

Only if it was in matchmaking and only if it had a time limit (So people wont get bored and quit).

  • 11.05.2009 3:45 PM PDT

WHAMMIE!!

horde has the same problem with boredom and quitting.

maybe only certain sections of a map would be open at first, then after a set a new part with new weapons opens.

  • 11.05.2009 3:54 PM PDT

Posted by: celtic revenge
horde has the same problem with boredom and quitting.

maybe only certain sections of a map would be open at first, then after a set a new part with new weapons opens.

and new people can join.

  • 11.05.2009 3:56 PM PDT

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I agree to everyone who said firefight should be similar to matchmaking. This way, you can play with more than four people, and you don't have to play with just friends. Bungie should also make more maps for firefight, like more with vehicles and ones not based off the campaign. I like the Flood idea, it will probably be similar to COD's -blam!- zombies.

  • 11.05.2009 4:23 PM PDT