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Subject: Graphics - Thoughts & Expectations

I had some thoughts I wanted to share and find out what the rest of the community thought about these ideas.

I've never been a big fan of the Call of Duty series. However, the graphics in the latest Modern Warfare 2 trailers seem like a major leap. I don't know if those are just enhanced for the trailers or if the whole game will look like that. But they're absolutely sick.

I was wondering if such a leap was going to take place in Reach. I'm not just talking about more polish. I'm thinking of a more realistic look (movie vs cartoon) and more nuanced body language (more granular animations and motion capture).

What are your thoughts? Can we expect these types of improvements?

[Edited on 11.05.2009 2:00 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 1:59 PM PDT

I hope we see a huge improvment in graphics. They are a big part of the game for me, If it dose not look real, I dont want to play it normaly.

  • 11.05.2009 2:03 PM PDT
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Positive vibes.

Yeah I really think that the games should start becoming extremely realistic. Like I think they should really work on the realism of the games. I love em already, but nothing wrong with improvement.

  • 11.05.2009 2:05 PM PDT

from what the recent buzz we saw... i can't really tell...was that real or what? some textures seem awful. But yeah some guns look awesome and detailed, hope thats just a early build.....

  • 11.05.2009 2:06 PM PDT

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from what the recent buzz we saw... i can't really tell...was that real or what? some textures seem awful. But yeah some guns look awesome and detailed, hope thats just a early build.....


I thought the same thing.

  • 11.05.2009 2:08 PM PDT

Well from some pics I've seen, the graphics are going to be really good. For example the spartan laser, WOW!!Really detailed.

  • 11.05.2009 2:09 PM PDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om1yZYyY9lY&hd=1

I had a lot of disappointment with Halo 3, that was a lot like an Halo 2 port from the first Xbox, revamped and upscaled in 640p (not even 720p), but fortunately the game was epic.

Now I won't accept another porting of old stuff porting...
With ODST was ok, considering that was Halo THREE ODST, and not a new game, but Reach will have 3 years of development, hundreds of people working on in, unlimited budget, huge feedback from Halo 3 and ODST and won't have the Microsoft's pressures this time considering Bungie like an independent software house now...

This time they HAVE to make a BRAND NEW engine like KillZone 2 did on PS3, or I'll be very very ANGRY!

  • 11.05.2009 2:12 PM PDT
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and won't have the Microsoft's pressures this time considering Bungie like an independent software house now...


You do realise that Halo is owned by Microsoft.
If microsoft says jump trough a hoop master chief,he will be forced to do that.
Bungie still has the microsofts pressure from microsoft,just like ODST did(like the time when we were suppose to get 1st ever trailer,but MS said dont show it)

  • 11.05.2009 2:15 PM PDT
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I think MW1 looks more polished than MW2. Personally I wouldn't want Halo to get a more "realistic" look, I think the look is fine as it is but it needs to be made more technically impressive. More AA, higher resolution, more post-processing, anything to hide the jaggies.

Hopefully MS will give Bungie enough time this time so they can really polish Reach to the quality of the first Halo 3 trailer. MS has a lot of creative devs, they should get some mathematicians in there making the best real-time rendering algorithms on the market. One year may not be enough.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 2:29 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 2:23 PM PDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om1yZYyY9lY&hd=1

You do realise that Halo is owned by Microsoft.
If microsoft says jump trough a hoop master chief,he will be forced to do that.
Bungie still has the microsofts pressure from microsoft,just like ODST did(like the time when we were suppose to get 1st ever trailer,but MS said dont show it)


Well, yeah, but I realise that it won't be in any way like it was for the first Halo 3 games too, and it's a good news.
ODST was made in just 1 year and an half, and initially it was intended like a 4 hours expansion of Halo 3, but in the end they enlarged it in something AMAZING in so little time...

Reach will have 3 Years of developing! And not of a couple of Bungie people, but ALL of them, and with the highest priority.

They CAN'T recycle again an extremely-old engine started with Halo CE on the first Xbox, especially in 2010, and especially with killer graphics games like Crysis, CoD, KillZone already OUT there...

Bungie, this time you will not have ANY excuses...

[Edited on 11.05.2009 2:25 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 2:23 PM PDT

I miss playing Halo with my friends.

I would love to see Reach along the lines of Killzone 2.

  • 11.05.2009 3:02 PM PDT
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better then call of duty

  • 11.05.2009 3:09 PM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

I rather take ODST graphics and this time actually have epic 30+ people fights

So far The Ark has some of the biggest battles in entire series and they aren't epic at all. 2 Wraiths, 2 Choppers, a handful of enemies against my 3 tanks and hog...

I'd be fine with Splinter Cell 1 like graphics honestly. They have all the detail, lighting etc needed.

  • 11.05.2009 3:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: BIGNERENT
I hope we see a huge improvment in graphics. They are a big part of the game for me, If it dose not look real, I dont want to play it normaly.


wow, how old are you?

  • 11.05.2009 3:19 PM PDT
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I would like to see Halo in a more...darker, depressing, and more violent way, there are so many instances where in Halo people would be slices, shot through, and blown up into bits.

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  • 11.05.2009 3:24 PM PDT
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A lot of the material looks placeholder, but DAMN those weapon models, and the 3rd person character model look FREAKIN' TIGHT.

The environments and scenery, and probably even the UI are still undergoing tweaks and polish. It's WAAAY to early to say that what has been leaked will look like the final product.

  • 11.05.2009 3:24 PM PDT

Thanks for all your feedback guys. However, the leaked images confirmed my fears. More polish ... not sure. More details ... yes. A revolutionary leap in realism and animation ... no. See Here

  • 11.06.2009 10:31 AM PDT

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  • 11.06.2009 10:39 AM PDT

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I had some thoughts I wanted to share and find out what the rest of the community thought about these ideas.

I've never been a big fan of the Call of Duty series. However, the graphics in the latest Modern Warfare 2 trailers seem like a major leap. I don't know if those are just enhanced for the trailers or if the whole game will look like that. But they're absolutely sick.

I was wondering if such a leap was going to take place in Reach. I'm not just talking about more polish. I'm thinking of a more realistic look (movie vs cartoon) and more nuanced body language (more granular animations and motion capture).

What are your thoughts? Can we expect these types of improvements?

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  • 11.06.2009 10:43 AM PDT

sha doink doink

they need to improve the frames per second. after playing cod halo seems so slow in comparison

  • 11.06.2009 10:45 AM PDT

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the screens everyone is talking about(if they are what i think they are)look very fake. i find it odd that alot of them look like they are made up of pieces from other games... the one looks like they took the SMG, made it bigger cut the counter from the BR and attached it to a COD4 scope... and what's with MW2's heartbeat sensor on the spartan laser?

  • 11.06.2009 11:03 AM PDT

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The "you knw what I mean" things are from an early beta build,and the graphics are very detailed.
We can expect more polished graphics for the beta version and even more polished and detailed for the finished version.

On Bungie we trust.

  • 11.06.2009 11:09 AM PDT

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awhile back someone said Reach will be on a new engine? is this true?

  • 11.06.2009 11:09 AM PDT
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I love Halo and I will most likely buy Reach but If this is indeed the new Engine it sure doesnt look like alot but I will keep being skeptical I mean they WERE off screen pictures with a horrible VGA camera phone. That would be hardly the way to do any new engine justice, so I wont jump to conclusions.

I will say though that if these graphics dont leap above ODST and Halo 3 I think Ill be a bit dissappointed and better physics too.

  • 11.06.2009 11:40 AM PDT

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