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Subject: People you don't understand reach

Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war

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  • 11.05.2009 2:44 PM PDT
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Positive vibes.

Well I suppose other members are just curious as to what other members either expect, or want to see in this new game. It's not bad, I don't think.

  • 11.05.2009 2:48 PM PDT
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Between playing Halo and World of Warcraft, I must be the poo-bah nerd.

Because the Assault rifle is in Halo 2 and the battle rifle is in Halo ODST and the automag and silenced SMG are in Halo 3, right?

OHWAIT

  • 11.05.2009 2:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war


well with your logic then there should have been a BR in Halo: CE.

  • 11.05.2009 2:52 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

Posted by: Judicator789
Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war


well with your logic then there should have been a BR in Halo: CE.


And a Spartan Laser.

  • 11.05.2009 2:53 PM PDT

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if you avoid David Powel
and keep track of your towel.

Um, punctuation please?

Also, the Spartan-IIs had Mark V during the Battle of Reach which did have energy shields. Furthermore you didn't see any of the "new" guns before Halo Reach waved them in front of your face.

  • 11.05.2009 2:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Judicator789
Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war


well with your logic then there should have been a BR in Halo: CE.


And a Spartan Laser.


Hornets too!

  • 11.05.2009 2:55 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

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Posted by: Judicator789
Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war


well with your logic then there should have been a BR in Halo: CE.


And a Spartan Laser.


Hornets too!


Don't you forget the Silenced SMG!

  • 11.05.2009 2:56 PM PDT
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If a weapon is new in the game, it does not mean it is new in the time-line.

  • 11.05.2009 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Judicator789
Posted by: Phynixblack
Posted by: Judicator789
Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Okay so ive been going through the forums reading some great stuff about reach and ive seen a couple threads about "WHAT NEW GUN DO YOU WANT" well let me just explain something to people who have things about new and all this stuff from halo 3 and ODST that think this will all be in reach sheilds for example you wont have them if you have played halo CE you have a downgraded verison of sheilds because you have to pick up health packs every 5 mins if you suck Also the new gun posts are stupid there wont be any new guns because why wouldent they already have put them in other halos the only "new" guns they would have is the guns the spartans use in the books so thats all i got start a riot win a war


well with your logic then there should have been a BR in Halo: CE.


And a Spartan Laser.


Hornets too!


Don't you forget the Silenced SMG!


Mongeese as well!

  • 11.05.2009 2:58 PM PDT

new weapons that came in halo 2 like the br and halo 3 spartan laser is fine but the battle of reach takes place before all of the halo games none of those weapons will be there nor will any new ones because reach came b4 in the books

Also halo 2 and halo 3 they "invented" new weapons but it takes place later

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  • 11.05.2009 2:59 PM PDT
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Between playing Halo and World of Warcraft, I must be the poo-bah nerd.

Posted by: Fishtumzowned
new weapons that came in halo 2 like the br and halo 3 spartan laser is fine but the battle of reach takes place before all of the halo games none of those weapons will be there nor will any new ones because reach came b4 in the books


You were proven wrong, stop posting.

  • 11.05.2009 3:00 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

Posted by: bred
If a weapon is new in the game, it does not mean it is new in the time-line.


Exactly, I mean this is like getting a present at Christmas and throwing a fit about it because you wanted to open it Christmas Morning and were gifted Christmas Eve...

Screw time line, new toys to kill with is ALWAYS welcome.

  • 11.05.2009 3:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Fishtumzowned
new weapons that came in halo 2 like the br and halo 3 spartan laser is fine but the battle of reach takes place before all of the halo games none of those weapons will be there nor will any new ones because reach came b4 in the books

Also halo 2 and halo 3 they "invented" new weapons but it takes place later


The BR came before reach try reading Contact Harvest. The BR was the first if not second weapon mentioned in the halo series. Chronologically that is.

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  • 11.05.2009 3:02 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Also halo 2 and halo 3 they "invented" new weapons but it takes place later


Prove it.

Prove that they weren't invented until that point. I want to see undeniable proof.

How do you know it wasn't something like "MC never encountered them until H2 and H3"

Spartan Laser was a new gun, but for all you know it was always around, Chief was just never were it was.

  • 11.05.2009 3:02 PM PDT
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Reach was a fortress world the reason you saw hardly any weapons in halo Ce was because the pillar of autumn had to run and so didnt have enough time to pick any goodies.

  • 11.05.2009 3:03 PM PDT

Wherever you roam
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you'll be safe from peril
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if you avoid David Powel
and keep track of your towel.

Posted by: Fishtumzowned
new weapons that came in halo 2 like the br and halo 3 spartan laser is fine but the battle of reach takes place before all of the halo games none of those weapons will be there nor will any new ones because reach came b4 in the books

Also halo 2 and halo 3 they "invented" new weapons but it takes place later


You just didn't see any Sp'lasers in Halo 1.

How about you go and check? Oh, and don't forget to check under THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE!

  • 11.05.2009 3:05 PM PDT
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There is an BR in Reach ;) Some pics showing this ;)
thx Bungie^^ :D

  • 11.05.2009 3:06 PM PDT
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  • 11.05.2009 3:10 PM PDT

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This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

Your right. Bungie is not going to add any new guns to Halo Reach. Even if it makes sense for them to do so. Even if they are expected to do so. Because Halo: Reach takes place a few months before Halo 3.

I mean, clearly there aren't any weapons in Halo 3: ODST, that don't exist in Halo 3. Oh thats right, there are two weapons unique to ODST, despite it taking place a month before Halo 3.


Just because you didn't see something, or something has yet to be referenced doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.

If you look at the gun portfolio, that exists today. There are thousands, of distinctly different guns. Now imagine, our reality is completely different then what it currently is. Imagine a fictional book and video game series existed, that told the story of a war that actually exists in our reality. But in this reality, its completely fictional.

Now imagine, After several successful books and video games, they make a prequel book, or a prequel video game. However, in this prequel, there are weapons, or vehicles not previously seen.

In this context, does that sound out of the ordinary, impossible, or worth -blam!-ing about? Of course not. There are thousands of weapons in the world. There are certainly standard issue weapons, and equipment. But there is certainly weapons, equipment, and vehicles that exist, that are not often seen, or used in war. But still exist.

Beyond the fact, it is just a game. Bungie IS going to add new toys to play with. Regardless of weither it makes sense.
The reality is, there is absolutely no reason for you to close off any possibility of new weapons, vehicles or even enemies. The enemies might be sort of a stretch, but unseen weapons and vehicles? Not at all.

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Another example, that should make things even clear would be the Call of Duty franchise. Imagine if there were several modern warfare novels. And that modern warfare 2 was a prequel, not a sequel. And the game has weapons and equipment not seen in Call of Duty 4, or written about in the novels. Would anyone -blam!-, "Why are there new weapons in this game, its a prequel?". No because the novels follow a tight narrative, they only refer to the guns the characters use. They don't list off every known gun in existence, or in use. The other part is, the new weapons and equipment existed in reality the whole time. Even if we have never heard them referenced by COD fiction, we know they existed the whole time anyways.

I mean, do you honestly believe, the Spartan Lazer was designed, tested, ran through prototypes, reproduced, and then shiped to earth, between Masterchiefs departure, and its appearance in ODST? So they designed, created and reproduced the Spartan lazer in a couple of hours?

How many times does something we consider new, have to show up in a prequel novel, for people to get, these new things aren't fictionally new. The BR, and Hornet in Contact Harvest. The Splazer in Halo Wars.

Just because something didn't appear in one game, but appeared in a sequel, doesn't mean that something was created in the fictional time frame between the two games. It simply means the characters in the previous game, didn't have access to the weapons in the sequel.

Simply stated, there will be new things in Halo: Reach. And as always, anyone that has a problem with it, will be considered a tool.



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  • 11.05.2009 3:13 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

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So simply stated, there will be new things in Halo: Reach. And as always, anyone that has a problem with it, will be considered a tool.


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"MORTAL! THOU ART A TOOL!" He spoketh

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Truth prevails. For great JUSTICE.

  • 11.05.2009 3:17 PM PDT

reconz unite

don't feed the troll let it rot in hell and does he ll become blam

  • 11.05.2009 3:25 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

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don't feed the troll let it rot in hell and does he ll become blam


Blam? Like as in the Blam blam or the blammed blam you get in a can? You lost me broski.

  • 11.05.2009 3:27 PM PDT

Look out.... -boom- (headshot)
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Posted by: Fishtumzowned
Also halo 2 and halo 3 they "invented" new weapons but it takes place later


Prove it.

Prove that they weren't invented until that point. I want to see undeniable proof.

How do you know it wasn't something like "MC never encountered them until H2 and H3"


This neither proves or disproves, but.

Chapter 14 page 133 Halo: First Strike
The door to the hallway eased shut and locked, and Will moved to Fred's side. Each Spartan opened one of the wall lockers, standing to the side in case there was some leftover booby traps within that Kalmiya had failed to disable.
Fred peered inside and saw a rack of hand guns. They weren't the standard issue HE pistoles; these had oversized barrels- easily 30 percent larger and longer-and they had grips of self moulding plastasteel. He picked one up and hefted it-its balance was barrel heavy. to be expected from an unloaded pistol. He found three boxes of clips at the bottom of the locker, opened one, and took out a clip. What ever this new handgun shot, it was high caliber, slugs the size of his thumb. He slip the clip into the gun, and it secured with a satisfying click.
Now it was perfectly balanced, far better them the standard issue sidearm.
He secured the weapon and turned to see what Will found.
Will examined a plastic-wrapped rifle. He removed the rifle from the locker, ripped off its sheathing, and shouldered it. He nodded with satisfaction.
Unlike the MA5B, this rifle had a longer barrel and stock, with a cutdown muzzle shroud. A scope was mounted on an optics railing along the top of the top of the rifle. Will hefted a clip and inserted it into the receiver.
He shouldered the rifle again and peered through the scope.
"Auto zoom, nice."
Will and Fred then traded and inspected the new weapons. Fred liked the feel of this new rifle, but wondered how much punch it had-- enough he hoped, to make the trade-off of having fewer rounds in the clip worth it.
They filled two sacks with the new pistols,rifles, and ammunition , then moved to the footlockers and lifted the lids.

End of page 133

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