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Subject: If hope there aren't any elites in Reach

For the Sangheili!

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: Supra1018
If there is no option to use a Sangheili character model in multiplayer on Halo: Reach, I will return the disk to Gamestop.
I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, I would be pretty pissed too.

I would, it's a combination of conflicting principles and being really pissed off that I can't play as an Elite.

Haha, and nice to see you on here, Empyreal.

  • 11.05.2009 5:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Dallas Green
I make a legitimate thread on the most logical choice for the next Bond actor, and you take that away from me by creating a parody thread indirectly connecting my thread to yours.

I hope your kids have bad influences and develop bad personalities. I wish this with all my heart.

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Omega1015
Posted by: Omega1015
Posted by: BTE
Ah, and thats where you are wrong. If you like fiction that much you will realize that Elites were still part of the covenant for the events of Reach. So Bungie could actually get away with cutting them out of the multiplayer.


In multiplayer, Spartans kill Spartans, Elites kill Elites, and they both kill each other. I don't see how fictional affiliation affects multiplayer match-ups. Everyone still kills everyone else.


Once again, I don't think they have a legitimate reason BTE...

But having Elites in the same team as Spartans? Oh the humanity!!

You might not think its a legitimate reason, and to be honest i dont think its one either since multiplayer has nothing to do with canon, but they still have an excuse to hide behind if they decide not to add them (legit or not).

In multiplayer, you can give players superhuman speed, lower gravity, make everyone invisible, and make them invincible. And that's only skimming the surface.

What's this about realism in multiplayer?

  • 11.05.2009 5:57 PM PDT

Name: Vorik 'Deltap
Rank: Imperial Admiral

"Whatever leniency I extended to you and your comrades before, may have been in error. If you persist in halting our course, we will burn your pathetic fleet down to the last man."

Posted by: BTE
But having Elites in the same team as Spartans? Oh the humanity!!

You might not think its a legitimate reason, and to be honest i dont think its one either since multiplayer has nothing to do with canon, but they still have an excuse to hide behind if they decide not to add them (legit or not).


You're right about that. They could hide behind it. Nobody would believe them though, not even you think it's legitimate.

I honestly don't see any reason Bungie would or SHOULD remove the elite character model.

  • 11.05.2009 5:58 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Actually, this thought just came to mind: I distinctly remember owning ALOT more bad SPARTAN players than ELITE. If ELITE players are so bad, why are there MORE BAD SPARTANS.
Because there are more people who use the Spartan model? Its all about ratio. You could have 20 elite players and have all of them suck, and you could have 100 spartan players and have 50 of them suck. You would still have more spartans, yet as far as ratio goes, the elites are in a worse position.

Im not saying that players who use elites suck just trying to explain something.

Yeah, but the ratio is still the same, you just come across LESS GOOD PLAYERS.

In general in a day's sitting I will play around 400 players. Out of all of these players maybe 10 will actually be good.

Now for the ratio, if one in every 10 players is an Elite INCLUDING SWAT, than excluding it is likely one in ever 50. This means that I only have a 1 in 5 chance of running into even a single good Elite player that day. But I will DEFINITELY run into 20 bad Elite players.

  • 11.05.2009 5:58 PM PDT

BoxOfBlades

if i ever shot through an elites neck,i never noticed it.not once,and i kill them just as easy as spartans unless im on swat.they BETTER have elites in reach

  • 11.05.2009 6:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Yeah, but the ratio is still the same, you just come across LESS GOOD PLAYERS.

In general in a day's sitting I will play around 400 players. Out of all of these players maybe 10 will actually be good.

Now for the ratio, if one in every 10 players is an Elite INCLUDING SWAT, than excluding it is likely one in ever 50. This means that I only have a 1 in 5 chance of running into even a single good Elite player that day. But I will DEFINITELY run into 20 bad Elite players.

I wont get too much into this. Though all of this is probably fueled by the whole "MLG is superior to everything you are either with MLG or you suck" type of attitude some (most i know are like this) of the MLG players have.



[Edited on 11.05.2009 6:04 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Considering the assumptions people are making about Reach, (i.e. that it will be class based, multiple spartans ect.) I don't think there will be playable elites.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 6:05 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 6:05 PM PDT

Name: Vorik 'Deltap
Rank: Imperial Admiral

"Whatever leniency I extended to you and your comrades before, may have been in error. If you persist in halting our course, we will burn your pathetic fleet down to the last man."

Posted by: Brendal
Considering the assumptions people are making about Reach, (i.e. that it will be class based, multiple spartans ect.) I don't think there will be playable elites in it.


Or they could make even more variety by including Elite-only classes, customizing their abilities to fit the fiction. that would be sweet for everybody. Of course, all of those assumptions are conjecture, and we can't reliably speculate on the mechanics just yet.

  • 11.05.2009 6:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Brendal
Considering the assumptions people are making about Reach, (i.e. that it will be class based, multiple spartans ect.) I don't think there will be playable elites.


That first part there which i put in bold, kills your whole argument. People also assume that you will play as Master Chief and you will lead your squad (Sam/Kelly/Fred/Linda).


  • 11.05.2009 6:08 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Omega1015
Posted by: Brendal
Considering the assumptions people are making about Reach, (i.e. that it will be class based, multiple spartans ect.) I don't think there will be playable elites in it.


Or they could make even more variety by including Elite-only classes, customizing their abilities to fit the fiction. that would be sweet for everybody. Of course, all of those assumptions are conjecture, and we can't reliably speculate on the mechanics just yet.

It is even possible that they WILL include other races, and depending on your race (which can be placed on any team anyway) different classes and abilities will effect all aspects of your personal gameplay experience.

Or it will be the same classes, except Elite players get Covenant weapons.

  • 11.05.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Just as every cop is a criminal,
And all the sinners saints,
As heads is tails, just call me lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint.

Bow chicka honk honk.

Posted by: Kurt Cobain 321
Seriously the only players who use elites aren't very good. The only time you see an elite used in higher ranks is in SWAT. If they are in Reach they should fix them so they can be shot from behind as you would a Spartan. Also fix the part of the elites neck you can shoot through that doesn't hurt them.
Oh, sure, pimp-slap the timeline for the sake of multiplayer. Though this does beg the question, if you're not running into Elites outside of SWAT, what does it matter? If you can aim, you can kill an Elite from behind.

There WILL be Elites in Reach. Take all the time you need to absorb that.

  • 11.05.2009 6:13 PM PDT

Omega is right. Bungie still has a number of months to change things. If you make assumptions about the mechanics now then you will probably be wrong considering, like I said before, the time they still have.

[Edited on 11.05.2009 6:16 PM PST]

  • 11.05.2009 6:13 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: Supra1018
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Posted by: Supra1018
If there is no option to use a Sangheili character model in multiplayer on Halo: Reach, I will return the disk to Gamestop.
I don't think you should play Halo at all if you only do it to play as a dinosaur in MM.

First of all, they don't look like dinosaurs, and even if they did, dinosaurs are freakin' epic.

Secondly, I don't only play Halo to play as an Elite. I may use the character model all the time because the Elite fiction is so overwhelmingly epic, but the reason I would return the game is because if the choice was made to not include Elites in multiplayer, it would have been more than likely influenced by stupid people like yourself and the person who started this thread. Which means I would have to return the game out of principle, because I wouldn't spend money on a game that is at all influenced by stupid people.


don't worry that shouldnt happen. Just as bungie wouldnt force all characters in SWAT to be spartans because of the complaints

Elites to me have more of a disadvantage then a spartan basically due to their bulk and how its easier to kill them with just about any weapons

I dont like that they have to hunch I like the H1 and 2 Elites. They were the definition of Epic.

But yes killing elites can be fun. Having them in your machinima is baddass. I've been planning a Halo 3 machinima for months and if i couldnt use Elites I would be pretty peed off

this is comming from a person who worships Halo CE master chief an Elites worst nightmare.

A person who plays as a spartan in every playlist except SWAT

  • 11.05.2009 6:49 PM PDT

We got Jackals in the courtyard!

Just because alot of people have it doesnt mean its not cool.

I personally don't mind dinos in matchmaking. they add a level of skill to it.

only problem i have is with them in snipes. hard to headshot from the back. not a big problem though, ill just shoot twice in the huge back. also their head comes way out when they trun sideways, so that kind of balances it.

dinos will probably be in reach.

  • 11.10.2009 1:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kurt Cobain 321
Seriously the only players who use elites aren't very good. The only time you see an elite used in higher ranks is in SWAT. If they are in Reach they should fix them so they can be shot from behind as you would a Spartan. Also fix the part of the elites neck you can shoot through that doesn't hurt them.
UBER GAME NERD listen all of ya its not wether the players a spartian or an elite just respect their choice of charter Its realy childish argueing over a players appernce

  • 11.10.2009 1:36 PM PDT

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