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Poll: *Please don't add useless things that will not be used in Match...  [closed]
Agree (UNKNOWN iXi, I LIKE the way you think!):  70%
(16 Votes)
Disagree (UNKNOWN iXi, I disagree but I like ya..):  30%
(7 Votes)
Total Votes: 23

I don't know how you people may feel, but I completely disagree with Bungie excluding multiple items such as weapons from matchmaking. Why even bother wasting the time/energy/resources if they're just not going to be used anyway?

My thoughts:
--If there is NOT going to be a Custom Games Search in Halo Reach, then do not make anything that will not appear in matchmaking. I mean really, what's the purpose of wasting the time creating and coding it to work perfectly in the game if you're going to cut out many things for the bulk of the multiplayer anyway? What was the point of creating those (very fun IMO) flame grenades if they NEVER appears in matchmaking? What's the point of even having a Fuel Rod Cannon if it NEVER appears in matchmaking? What's the point of even creating that original Hornet if it NEVER appears in matchmaking (although I think it would've fit fine in Sandtrap Heavy the way it originally was)?

Seriously, why even bother? Thoughts?



Special Links to Note:

--Custom Games Search thread created years ago which had thousands of hits and was extremely popular at the time. Very interesting to look at, especially the first post.

--The most recent Custom Games Search thread.



Closing Statement:
--If Bungie is not going to include this much desired feature, and NO it would not be an impractical thing to include if you were to just read the layout, then just don't bother wasting resources to create items that we will not be able to see in abundance throughout our multiplayer experience. Epitaph is another example of something that was created but we NEVER see. Why not just adjust the map a little bit and throw it in more gametypes? ... I just don't understand...

  • 11.06.2009 1:49 AM PDT

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I totally agree.

EDIT: good, you included that link to the Halo 3 Forum Poll, people have to see the numbers, and vote for the poll in the Reach forum :)

[Edited on 11.06.2009 4:01 AM PST]

  • 11.06.2009 1:55 AM PDT

While I agree with the lack of many things from matchmaking (I also hated the updates that took out some equipment pieces from it) it's wrong to say "why even create it?" - there's the single player, too.

  • 11.06.2009 2:00 AM PDT

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That's what I'm saying. Wouldn't you rather have them create MORE single player items that would ALSO appear in multiplayer? Why create flame grenades for single player but not have them in multiplayer?

You get what I'm saying now? Not to NOT create items... It's to create MORE items that can be used in multiplayer.

  • 11.06.2009 2:26 AM PDT

Non Nobis Nascimur - We are not born for ourselves.

There's more to Halo than just the multiplayer. Ever hear of Campaign? It's that neat little option on the top of the Halo 3 menu. And to get technical, I've heard that some weapons, such as Fire Bombs, Sentinel Beams, and Fuel Rods, would cause too much lag for a matchmaking game.

Although I do agree that they should try to use weapons that are already there.

[Edited on 11.06.2009 2:54 AM PST]

  • 11.06.2009 2:53 AM PDT
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I agree. It's ridiculous to spend all of that effort making these weapons, and then making them unusable for the main bulk of the mltiplayer.

Take the Fuel Rod Gun for example. A very fun alternative version of the Rocket Launcher (Bouncy Rockets? Yes pl0x), but it's nowhere to be seen in Matchmaking.

[Edited on 11.06.2009 3:02 AM PST]

  • 11.06.2009 3:01 AM PDT

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I completely disagree, there's a gamemode called, Campaign... Many amazing things can be made to be found for that, ie. Scarab Gun in Halo-2...

  • 11.06.2009 3:23 AM PDT

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Are you guys seriously thinking that I'm suggesting to forget about the campaign? lol...

I'm saying to forget the useless weapons that you won't EVER see in multiplayer, which would mean, yes, that Scarab Gun. Tell me, when was the last time you logged billions of hours playing with that Scarab Gun?

Oh...

[Edited on 11.06.2009 10:05 AM PST]

  • 11.06.2009 10:04 AM PDT
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Why shouldn't we be able to have "fun" items to use in Custom Games with friends? Just because the Fuel Rod cannon/Flame Grenades/Soccer ball doesn't appear in MM doesn't mean it should be cut from the game.

  • 11.06.2009 10:17 AM PDT

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You're comparing the soccer ball to the complex coding that a weapon takes? lol

By the way no, that's NOT what I'm saying. They should put those weapons INTO matchmaking since they're created it. There should be no other weapons or anything else they create that if it's not going to go into matchmaking, then no point in working it out.

  • 11.06.2009 9:26 PM PDT

I was just going to vote on this one and go away; but the people saying, "Go play Campaign then" Changed my mind.

The point here is not to have fewer things being created in the first place. The point iss that bungie cut things from their own game.

And while, true, that's their decision to make, it kind of ticked off a lot of people.

I heartily agree that bungie shouldn't remove things from the Multiplayer in Reach unless it's literally a game-breaker. Which was (as far as I know) Not the case in Halo 3. If anyone knows why they removed certain Weapons Vehicles, etc. from the MP maps, I would be very happy to know.

  • 11.06.2009 9:42 PM PDT

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I love the Fuel Rod Cannon, but they don't have it in MM! WTF?
I like the idea of searching for custom games even if they have all weapons in MM

  • 11.06.2009 9:44 PM PDT

I see what your saying and I completely agree apart from easter eggs like the Scarab Gun.

I'm not saying take the Fuel rod cannon out (among other weapons , but mainly the Fuel rod cannon) but incluse them in matchmaking.

  • 11.06.2009 9:46 PM PDT

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Both the fuel rod gun and sentinel beam are now in matchmaking, though.

  • 11.06.2009 9:49 PM PDT
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There no match making in ODST because then the ODST would be all like yo we better foo then the Spartans all be like No we better foo then the elites be all like Lets have peace then they shoot elm...but really it should of

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  • 11.06.2009 9:52 PM PDT

I would love to see a custom game finder. Even with simple search parameters it would still get you a wide variety of game types. Search parameters could be: Map, Forged/non forged, gametype, tweaked settings, vehicles/nonvehicles, and player count. Those search preferences could get you a wide range of possible game types.

  • 11.06.2009 10:03 PM PDT