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Subject: Do you feel betrayed by Bungie?

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Okay, there are a few error's with your statement.

1. ODST was not a half-assed game. It got great reviews and had amazing sales. People are still playing it quite actively. Doesn't sound like a failure to me.

2. Reach was only announced at E3. That's not even 6 months ago. With the exception of the Beta, we probably won't see anything until the next E3.

3. H3 multiplayer. One 2 playlists require the Mythic disc right now, so that doesn't seem like a big deal. Also, the disc is a good deal for many Halo fans, even if you bought the map packs. It frees up a lot of space on the HDD and allows maps and games to load faster.

  • 11.07.2009 7:29 PM PDT

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  • 11.07.2009 8:24 PM PDT
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i hate that people say "its a new feel" just to say something! they are just talking to -blam!- talk! thats not a review thats a -blam!- obvious comment DUH its a new feel! ODST was HORRIBLE i NEVER wanted to be an ODST i got -blam!- scammed by bungie! the campaign was half assed in every single aspect! Im one of the biggest halo fanboys been playing since halo 1 but ODST just killed it i think bungie is getting too greedy or maybe microscam was involved in this bull-blam!-. the campaign was HORRIBLE it was just 2 hours long! cant find a match in firefight! they just added more missions and a multiplayer disk to make it 60 bucks halo 3 is 30 bucks ok? the expansion was suppose to be 20 bucks i believe they just put in more crap and added the multiplayer disk for more money. if bungie dissapoints any hardcore halo fans AGAIN they are gonna lose a lot of fans. halo odst was retarded it was halos mentally retarded cousin. if halo reach is bungies last hope now.

  • 11.07.2009 8:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: redeye97
Odst was a side project and Reach is a 3 year project.

  • 11.07.2009 8:44 PM PDT
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Bungie has been keeping information about their games on lockdown since H2, we wont get much news till the beta comes out.

Also ODST was an expansion. I would feel ripped off if the $60 just got me ODST campaign. But I got firefight, which is fun to do with my friends or alone. I got my Mythic disc, I use it almost every day or so. Sometimes more. I got the Reach beta in March, I would have payed $80 for all that.
Also, MW2 is releasing all this propaganda to compete with reach. And Ive only seen 4 screens of reach. And several gameplay demos, screens, teasers, etc for MW2. Reach looks like its going to demolish the FPS scene. I wont pay for MW2 untill I get Reach, DA:O, ME2, and Assassins Creed 2. Probably Borderlands and Hawx before that too. CoD is fun mind you, but its not on the top of my list.

Also, ODST played much like H:CE. It was probably the best single player ive had from halo in a long time, and it was more fun than Halo 3.

And on top of that, ODST was a small project devised by the bungie team so they wouldn't have to lay off any of their workers because they didnt need them for reach. Considering they built ODST in about 1 year, Im impressed. If only Epic games, and Ubisoft had that kind of quality. The only one that can compare is Bioware. And they do a totally different Genre.

[Edited on 11.07.2009 8:46 PM PST]

  • 11.07.2009 8:45 PM PDT

I CAN"T WAIT FOR ODST TO COME OUT!!! W00T!!!

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Posted by: redeye97
Odst was a side project and Reach is a 3 year project.

  • 11.07.2009 8:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh0rT Bu5 69
First off ODST is terrible. They give us a half a$$$ game that you cant even find a match in cuz none of my friends play it. There is no searching for a match. Now you must buy the game to continue to play the only decent matching left in halo 3. Why cant they give the beta for free like every other company out there? Oh Reach beta will sell ODST just like Bungie said. Thats bull. I cant believe Bungie is doing this. How much more will we take from bungie? In this recession we are in, why must they do this? I have loved bungie up to this point. I thought bungie cared about there fans. Guess not. Now we cant get any info on reach and its been almost a year since Bungie announced the game. When MW2 comes out, Bungie is up the creek because how baldy they have ripped off the fan base. Does anyone else feel like I do? Please I would love to hear from others.


Like it or not Bungie is a business. They want to get people to purchase they're product and putting the Beta in ODST to get people to purchase ODST is a legitimate way of doing so. I'm not mad at Bungie and I don't feel ripped off because I have played ODST a lot more than many other games I have shelled out 60 bucks for.

I do think it should have had another multiplayer mode or two and a longer campaign but I don't really feel ripped off when there are plenty of other games that cost 60 dollars that have much less and are of worse quality than ODST.

The lack of Reach information is really a non-issue. So they announced it awhile ago, so what, and it wasn't a year ago dude it was at last E3 which was barely 5 months ago, not even close to a year. How many other movies or video games announce their existence and give no information for years, big deal.

  • 11.07.2009 8:48 PM PDT

Posted by: f123456789
i NEVER wanted to be an ODST i got -blam!- scammed by bungie!


Maybe you should have read the title of the game then.

  • 11.07.2009 8:49 PM PDT

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$.50 in store credit.

1)Bungie is a company. We need to buy stuff for them to get money, which they need to make games, like the one coming out.

2)ODST wasnt a bad game. Sure, the story could have been better and it was a little short, but the gameplay was really fun while it lasted, which, including firefight and the new maps, has been more than $60 worth of time for me.

3)You dont need ODST to play most of matchmaking, just Throwback, MLG, and Team Mythic.

  • 11.07.2009 8:53 PM PDT

Posted by: JETST0RM
You're asking if I feel betrayed by one of the few consistently good developer teams who actually listen to what we have to say, spoil us with contests, free maps, constant integrated support, double exp and quite possibly the largest array of multiplayer options in one game ever? Yeah, no. I think Bungie's doing a damn good job.


i liked ODST alot actually but i wouldnt go that far to praise Halo3 campaign was -blam!- in Halo3 it was garbage a horrible way to supposedly end the trilogy it was a huge -blam!- up. Oh yeah 1 free -blam!- map that sure is spoiling us Gears one had 3 free map packs, Most of the contests are unanounced to the none bungie.net members and suck ass anyway. But do i feel betrayed HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Halo3 was still good just nowhere near the 11/10 it should have been its more on a 8.5/10 level. ODST was great its missions were much better than Halo3's. Dont ever complain about the price tag on ODST it had every feature of Halo3 minus H3 campaign and firefight as an addition. And as for ODST's campaign length it was eight missions plus free mode with the rookie at night(which can be as long or as short as the player wants) compared to H3's 9 missions.

  • 11.07.2009 9:42 PM PDT

Do you really care? you can't automatically see my signature anyway.

I looked through the choices about 20x or so and I didn't see an option that said the OP was a -blam!-tard and doesn't understand that the publisher (Micro-WantsAllOfOurMoney-soft) set the price of the game as well as what was included in the game as far as the h3 mm disc, and the reach beta goes.

  • 11.07.2009 10:30 PM PDT

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  • 11.07.2009 10:46 PM PDT
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Recession? RECESSION? For all we know, you're only complaining about the recession because your parents don't have the extra 60 bucks laying around to buy you a game.

i mean seriously, what do you want from bungie? Food? Water? Pie?
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  • 11.07.2009 10:57 PM PDT

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ODST WAS -blam!-! I felt like just killing myself because I used to be a great Halo fan
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  • 11.07.2009 10:59 PM PDT

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ehhh they are not the best... they can go MUCH more realistic.

  • 11.07.2009 11:21 PM PDT

Posted by: f123456789
i hate that people say "its a new feel" just to say something! they are just talking to -blam!- talk! thats not a review thats a -blam!- obvious comment DUH its a new feel! ODST was HORRIBLE i NEVER wanted to be an ODST i got -blam!- scammed by bungie! the campaign was half assed in every single aspect! Im one of the biggest halo fanboys been playing since halo 1 but ODST just killed it i think bungie is getting too greedy or maybe microscam was involved in this bull-blam!-. the campaign was HORRIBLE it was just 2 hours long! cant find a match in firefight! they just added more missions and a multiplayer disk to make it 60 bucks halo 3 is 30 bucks ok? the expansion was suppose to be 20 bucks i believe they just put in more crap and added the multiplayer disk for more money. if bungie dissapoints any hardcore halo fans AGAIN they are gonna lose a lot of fans. halo odst was retarded it was halos mentally retarded cousin. if halo reach is bungies last hope now.


May I ask why bungie would release something that was half-assed? Also you must have been a: playing on easy, and b: running past everything and not even fighting besides the parts you had to. Thats the only way I can think of you hitting a 2 hour playtime.

  • 11.07.2009 11:42 PM PDT

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If you are unhappy with Bungie's products, simply boycott and stop purchasing products from Bungie.

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  • 11.07.2009 11:45 PM PDT

Don't get me wrong bungie is awesome but I do feel betrayed. The first 2 halo games were masterpeices. There campaigns were intense and epic, and multiplayer was amazing and incredibly fast paced. Halo 3 and odst were not going with the flow. they kinda made a off road shortcut. Halo 3s campaign was so so in my opinion and multiplayer had so many probelms it's like they took a step backwards.

Now odsts campaign was interesting but really short and firefight was just a trend thing of survival play Took after -blam!- zombies and horde. For the first week it felt fun but it turned into another game i want to trade in. Honestly many you say you bought odst because your a fanboy. Being a fanboy has nothing to do with it. You spent $60 for the beta like everyone else. You didnt go buy odst for odst you got it for the beta

this game needs to go back to it's roots. Be like h1 and 2. Right now I see little grim hope because I saw igns leak. True or false looks like halo 3 and I'm really disappointed.

Bungie needs to worry more about making this game the best -blam!- thing in the world. They need to focus on the game. No more bull-blam!-


[Edited on 11.08.2009 12:09 AM PST]

  • 11.08.2009 12:01 AM PDT

I thought ODST was a great game. I don't see what everyone is complaining about.

  • 11.08.2009 12:11 AM PDT

Posted by: The Quicken
Where's the ''ODST was great! I hope they make a sequel'' option ya douche !


I was hoping for that option too... ODST doesn't suck because its different from the other halo games.

Theres tons of far worse games than ODST which also cost 60-70$, but why theres no one blaming about them. If you feel so betrayed by bungie, maybe you just shouldn't buy the next halo game.

So no, i don't feel betrayed by bungie at all.

  • 11.08.2009 4:56 AM PDT

Yes, really

what does this have to do with reach? (other than the mention of the beta) GBITBCF

  • 11.08.2009 5:18 AM PDT

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Sucks to be You. I enjoyed the game. If you feel so ripped off, go get MW2


Wow, really? That's blind fanboyism. Here's one for ya: I love Halo and I'm getting MW2!! :-O


omg same here it's like we're gamers that like more than one franchise.

  • 11.08.2009 5:32 AM PDT