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Subject: Balanced M6D vs Current BR- Which would you chose for reach

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Poll: Balanced M6D vs Current BR- Which would you chose for reach  [closed]
M6D- 4 shot kill has the fire rate of h3 magnum:  33%
(31 Votes)
Battle Rifle:  23%
(22 Votes)
I want both!!!!:  44%
(42 Votes)
Total Votes: 95

I think if the M6D fired slower like the halo 3 magnum and had its scope still it would be pretty balanced and it would satisfy many people

I personally would like both but the pistol alone would still make me happy

I dont want a single shot battle rifle when i can just have a pistol

to me I am used to the sound the BR makes firing the 3 burst and it would sound way off to be different. Instead of changing a weapon give me the pistol

also a pistol would be more acceptable thena BR because its a smaller gun an obstructs less view then the BR on the screen. This is acceptable since it wont be as easy to use as the BR would

  • 11.08.2009 9:53 AM PDT

Whichever fits the balance of the other weapons the best.

Theres going to be a medium range weapon regardless. Who cares what exactly it is? A pistol? A rifle? Doesn't really matter to me.

  • 11.08.2009 9:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Whichever fits the balance of the other weapons the best.

Theres going to be a medium range weapon regardless. Who cares what exactly it is? A pistol? A rifle? Doesn't really matter to me.


The thoughts of this poll are under the assumption that the power level of the weapons are simular to Halo 3

  • 11.08.2009 10:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Whichever fits the balance of the other weapons the best.

Theres going to be a medium range weapon regardless. Who cares what exactly it is? A pistol? A rifle? Doesn't really matter to me.


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  • 11.08.2009 10:09 AM PDT
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Uhhhh, no. I want the ORIGINAL classic M6D from Halo: CE.


Sure, if you care that much about "balance", four shot kill is fine, but don't butcher the weapon and give it the rate of fire as the M6G.

  • 11.08.2009 10:18 AM PDT

Less powerful Battle rifle and the Automag OH and the MA5K carbine

  • 11.08.2009 10:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: LoneStaruner
MA5K carbine



Fixed.

  • 11.08.2009 10:22 AM PDT
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A burst capable headshot weapon is dumb. A balanced M6D would be much better, fair, and foster better competition with well sorted ranks.

  • 11.08.2009 10:31 AM PDT

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obviously a slightly modified h2 br or slightly modified h1 pistol. one or the other, there isnt room for both.

it depends on whether in reach the emphasis is on 1v1 and small scale fights in which the rapid kill time and hit/miss properties of the pistol is needed, or if emphasis will be on teamwork in which the br's long killtime and the fact that damage comes from multiple weak bullets makes damage stacking more effective.

by slightly modified, i mean less homing on the h2 br, or (maybe) a 4 shot pistol. no rate of fire changes, no change in clip size, no change in accuracy.



[Edited on 11.08.2009 10:51 AM PST]

  • 11.08.2009 10:50 AM PDT

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Just bring back every aspect of the M6D, but make it look like a rifle then call it the new BR. Everyone would be happy that way

  • 11.08.2009 11:46 AM PDT

What about a balanced BR and a balanced M6D?

  • 11.08.2009 12:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Absolutioner
Uhhhh, no. I want the ORIGINAL classic M6D from Halo: CE.


Sure, if you care that much about "balance", four shot kill is fine, but don't butcher the weapon and give it the rate of fire as the M6G.


I love the original but you can kill someone in almost 2 seconds with the M6D if you landed a 3 shot

A balanced version with that rate of fire would be 6-7.... well you may as well just call it the carbine there

I think my suggestion bungie would take more into consideration. It would satisfy me at this point because the powerlevel now is weaker then it was in Halo CE. A 4 shot pistol that shoots at the magnum rate is great

  • 11.08.2009 11:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: eraseme
obviously a slightly modified h2 br or slightly modified h1 pistol. one or the other, there isnt room for both.

it depends on whether in reach the emphasis is on 1v1 and small scale fights in which the rapid kill time and hit/miss properties of the pistol is needed, or if emphasis will be on teamwork in which the br's long killtime and the fact that damage comes from multiple weak bullets makes damage stacking more effective.

by slightly modified, i mean less homing on the h2 br, or (maybe) a 4 shot pistol. no rate of fire changes, no change in clip size, no change in accuracy.



Sure there is room for both of them. I mean we have a bunch of full auto weapons. SMG, AR, Spiker, Plasma Rifle

For mid we just have BR, Carbine, and a crappy pistol that can be dual weilded

As for the Halo 2 BR i had one problem with it and that was the instant hit scan. This made the BR require no skill and you didnt have to lead your shot.

I like this line up the best for the new game

M6D (4shot M6G fire rate)

BR (fix the spread a bit but no instant hitscan like in 2)

Carbine

Automag (a secondary for team slayer bad as a stand alone good for headshots like it is now)

[Edited on 11.08.2009 11:24 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2009 11:23 PM PDT

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  • 11.08.2009 11:29 PM PDT

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Where's the "Neither" option? Neither option is balanced. Your M6D is the BR in single-shot form.
A scoped M6G would solve everything.

  • 11.08.2009 11:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: CookieMan
Where's the "Neither" option? Neither option is balanced. Your M6D is the BR in single-shot form.
A scoped M6G would solve everything.


I am sorry I know your a CQC player and would like to see that kinda of power shift but I am offering a bit of a compromise with the pistol that would satisfy mostly everyone.

The CQC people wouldnt be totaly in love with it but will feel that its not as cheap as the BR because the pistol is a hit or miss. And it would be harder to get a headshot as opposed to sweeping a BR and hiting someone with one of the 3 spreads bullets

also a lot of CE players loved the M6D and the Automag is a joke and a tease. Offering almost the same mechanics but making it do no damage

I have a question CookieMan do you like the Carbine???

[Edited on 11.08.2009 11:42 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2009 11:41 PM PDT
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Hell no M6D if it would have the same firing rate as the M6G. It would be better to just make it require more shots to kill. Makes it more fast paced. Plus you can headshot Grunts faster.

  • 11.09.2009 12:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Hell no M6D if it would have the same firing rate as the M6G. It would be better to just make it require more shots to kill. Makes it more fast paced. Plus you can headshot Grunts faster.


Then it would just be another carbine =(

The M6G doesnt fire that slow about the same rate as the BR

it would kill grunts pretty fast anyway

  • 11.09.2009 12:56 AM PDT
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I would like to have both weapons. I don't think that we can get both weapons to cover the same function as mid-range weapons. It's also a little wierd to have a pistol being a medium range weapon.

So what I'm hoping for is that the pistol becomes a short range sniper while the BR turns into a Human Carbine and holds the mid-range ground.

[Edited on 11.09.2009 1:16 AM PST]

  • 11.09.2009 1:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Methew
I would like to have both weapons. I don't think that we can get both weapons to cover the same function as mid-range weapons. It's also a little wierd to have a pistol being a medium range weapon.

So what I'm hoping for is that the pistol becomes a short range sniper while the BR turns into a Human Carbine and holds the mid-range ground.


I can never see a pistol thats a short range weapon unless its designed like a mauler. The accuarate weapons never tend to be short range.

I think a mid range variety is good. We already have too many cqc weapons. Right now we just have 3 mid range weapons. And ones the Magnum and it makes me sad right now to see it underpowered. I would like a 4 shot scope instead of a 5 shot no scope

dual weilding isnt that good it makes he pistol a possible 4 shot but the dual weilding makes it a bit inaccurate at times

people on this forum in general seem to want to add CQC weapons and delete midrange weapons. There needs to be diversity for both

long range is a bit of a gem so having Sniper, Beam Rifle, and laser are acceptable but close and mid should have some diversity

so what if there are 2 BRs on a map. Or instead 1 BR and the new M6D i proposed options dont hurt

  • 11.09.2009 2:59 PM PDT
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I can never see a pistol thats a short range weapon unless its designed like a mauler. The accuarate weapons never tend to be short range.

I think a mid range variety is good. We already have too many cqc weapons. Right now we just have 3 mid range weapons. And ones the Magnum and it makes me sad right now to see it underpowered. I would like a 4 shot scope instead of a 5 shot no scope

dual weilding isnt that good it makes he pistol a possible 4 shot but the dual weilding makes it a bit inaccurate at times

people on this forum in general seem to want to add CQC weapons and delete midrange weapons. There needs to be diversity for both

long range is a bit of a gem so having Sniper, Beam Rifle, and laser are acceptable but close and mid should have some diversity

so what if there are 2 BRs on a map. Or instead 1 BR and the new M6D i proposed options dont hurt

What is the headshot bonus for the Pistol? Three times damage? I know that 8 bodyshots to drop someone seems a tad much.

[Edited on 11.09.2009 3:06 PM PST]

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In Halo CE I didn't mind a future pistol being accurate past 150 yards I just had a problem with a future rifle being useles past 15 yards. the MA5Cs accuracy was improved but it's decreased muzzle velocity. so the halo 2 demo comes out. and there is pretty much a powered down pistol with a rifle skin. I liked it. but when the game came out it was pretty much a future bull pup M-16. i would have preferred it be a DMR but an functional AR was good enough.

so if I had to chose between your example M6 and the BR I would say go with the M6D so long as the MA5B or MA2B is functional at longer ranges.

I personally to see the Pistol have damage fall off mechanic to restrict it's effectiveness to CQC, but it would still be functional at longer ranges. and edit the BR and make it more of a DMR. and the AR would be balance between the two.

  • 11.09.2009 3:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
In Halo CE I didn't mind a future pistol being accurate past 150 yards I just had a problem with a future rifle being useles past 15 yards. the MA5Cs accuracy was improved but it's decreased muzzle velocity. so the halo 2 demo comes out. and there is pretty much a powered down pistol with a rifle skin. I liked it. but when the game came out it was pretty much a future bull pup M-16. i would have preferred it be a DMR but an functional AR was good enough.

so if I had to chose between your example M6 and the BR I would say go with the M6D so long as the MA5B or MA2B is functional at longer ranges.

I personally to see the Pistol have damage fall off mechanic to restrict it's effectiveness to CQC, but it would still be functional at longer ranges. and edit the BR and make it more of a DMR. and the AR would be balance between the two.


its highly illogical for something that does a lot of damage from far away to be weak in close range. As an object is shot through the air it is eventually stopped by friction and the power would decrees.

If anything up close should be the most powerful for any gun

  • 11.09.2009 5:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: LUNATICBRAND0N
What about a balanced BR and a balanced M6D?


I like that idea.

  • 11.09.2009 5:18 PM PDT

3 Shot M6D like H1. Instead of having unbalanced weapons and trying to balance one like in H3, we can just balance them all like in Halo 1.

  • 11.09.2009 5:35 PM PDT

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