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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

It shouldn't be taken out of the game, and it shouldn't remain as is.

Sure, "it takes skillz oh mah gahd!" and all that nonsense, it is my top tool of destruction. It isn't very hard for that to be true.

The fact is, the Battle Rifle is supposed to be a marksman's weapon, not a weapon that you can use while sprinting around corners, while at normal combat range, and while at long range.

It is the ace of all trades, while it should only be the jack of one or two.

The sniper rifle should be the ace of long range, with the BR capable of killing at long range, hence the jack of long range. It should also be usable at medium-long range, but much closer than that and it should become almost useless unless you get lucky.

  • 11.09.2009 9:30 PM PDT

is he trying to get bannhamered or something?

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  • 11.09.2009 9:30 PM PDT

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I really dislike the BR as a starting weapon. Giving it at the start equals infinite ammo. Every time you kill someone, you get their ammo. Then the ammo is respawned every time someone dies. Bam, virtually infinite ammo, or ammo that is restocked more often than it would if it were just a weapon on the side of the map.

  • 11.09.2009 9:37 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: YouAreOutOfMy5
I really dislike the BR as a starting weapon. Giving it at the start equals infinite ammo. Every time you kill someone, you get their ammo. Then the ammo is respawned every time someone dies. Bam, virtually infinite ammo, or ammo that is restocked more often than it would if it were just a weapon on the side of the map.


You get infinite ammo in team ARs by that logic hmm maybe a down with the AR thread. But no people will only make it sound like the BR has its problem and no other weapon or equipment

how many times in lonewolves will you get AR ammo? A whole lot

  • 11.10.2009 6:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: grean slime

With the addition of the br to slayer it eliminates the minute man idea of the spartan, like let's say we're on slayer, and your chasing a bunny hopper, and your reloading your AR but he's going for the shield door where he can take you on, but you pop out you magnum and boom head shot that stupid noob.


I can do that in Halo 3 with an AR and Magnum.

  • 11.10.2009 6:39 AM PDT

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  • 11.10.2009 6:49 AM PDT

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I told you to look out, but know, you got in my way, was going to shoot that splaser....

I think that it should stay in Multiplayer, but not be in the campain. This is basically going to be like the, "Oh Ma Gash I wantz my Brutz in my Halo Rach gamz" posts that have been out and about.

  • 11.10.2009 7:06 AM PDT

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  • 11.10.2009 8:55 AM PDT

There is nothing wrong with the br in halo 3 and I like using it just as much as my AR or sniper. but i recently played a bit of halo 2 again and the br in halo 2 is way over powered because it's a hit scan and all the shots hit. XD

  • 11.10.2009 9:00 AM PDT

Make the Br single shot, so it is like a magnum, but still a rifle.

  • 11.10.2009 9:03 AM PDT

Posted by: grean slime
Reach can't have a BR because they are too OP for a starting gun

Because its completely impossible to make modifications to a weapon from game to game in an attempt to balance it. I mean, its not like they messed with the atributes of the Halo 2 BR to try to make the Halo 3 BR more balanced or anything.

Afterall, if you get a scrape on your arm, it makes sense to cut it off right? Who would be stupid enough to put a bandage on it or something so it can become better?

  • 11.10.2009 9:08 AM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: Ninjadude989
Make the Br single shot, so it is like a magnum, but still a rifle.


It probably would be acceptable. And in Lan that kinda of gun would really shine....on xbl it would be more inconsistant due to the latency. The BR firing in burtst helps against this latency a little

  • 11.10.2009 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
Afterall, if you get a scrape on your arm, it makes sense to cut it off right? Who would be stupid enough to put a bandage on it or something so it can become better?
Hylebos you just overloaded the win, awesome and sarcasm meters in one fell swoop.

  • 11.10.2009 12:40 PM PDT

Given the context of the original post and the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow, my vote goes to 11.

  • 11.10.2009 12:50 PM PDT
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really? what do u think is better the br or the auto mag??? it doesnt matter if u think the br is noob, even if it was, it still makes the campaign fun. I think thats y there's a campaign so u can have extra FUN.

  • 11.10.2009 12:57 PM PDT

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the br is lame I know auto-mag has less bullets but it can kill more grunts because auto mag takes 1 shot to kill grunts and has 60 bullets BR takes 3 shots to kill a grunt and has 108 bullets so mag can kill 60 grunts BR can kill 36 grunts big diff

  • 11.10.2009 12:58 PM PDT
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Lets get some facts about the BR in here:

While it is slightly harder to use, the BR is NOT a high skill weapon, I don't believe many weapons in Halo could be considered "high skill" the only ones that come close are the sniper weapons. And it is because of the aim assist on each and every weapon. If your opponent's head is even partway inside a BR reticle, the bullets have their trajectory "bent" to an angle coming out of the barrel driving them toward your opponents head. The aim assist can seem like its not there, but you can notice how much it helps your aim when you are in matchmaking. Ex. Your shooting someone a fair distance away, when another enemy walks past you, crossing over your reticle, your aiming reticle is "dragged" away from your actual target, and toward the closer target. This dragging lasts about 1/2 - 3/4 of a second on a target at full speed with no assistance from the player. When you take this and add that the player is constantly aiming for the head of his target, it becomes difficult NOT to achieve a headshot, given that the reticle is fairly large, and the players heads are perceived as larger targets than they really are.

I am not saying the BR is an OP weapon, I just believe that with all this help, it becomes a one-size-fits-all style weapon and people no longer see the purpose in SMG's needlers, PR's Spikers, etc. It removes the variety of the game.

True skill in halo is not determined on how you use a weapon, but how you use a map. Knowing what location provide what cover, how such cover is negated, how to move around the map to maximize the effectiveness of your particular fighting style is how you determine skill.
When you, as a player, know how to move your character in a way that gives you a tactical advantage, you have more skill (Ex. jumping and dodging in an AR rush to avoid other ARs/ dodging shotguns and assassinating)
The BR is not a measure of your skill in the slightest.

EDIT: So to make a long story short, I DONT believe the BR should be removed from Reach, I do, however, believe it could recieve some tweaks as this is still a prototype weapon and has alot of work to go through, I just want to see a revision of the pistol into the automag, as they seem to have hit the balance perfectly with it.

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  • 11.10.2009 12:58 PM PDT
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The auto-mag would be a different weapon were it in a competitive multi player stance. Its single shot makes missing much easier than with a BR, and its aim assist is far lower than that of a BR. It does far less shield damage, and its high rate of fire fools players into burning ammo.

But it is a PvE weapon, not PvP. So I hold the belief that it is a well balanced, and necessary weapon to ODST.

  • 11.10.2009 1:02 PM PDT
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I love the br, dont get me wrong, but technically this will be Halo 0.5 so there shouldnt be a br. my best guess is that they bring back the Halo CE pisstol in place of the br. As sad as i am to possibly see the br go, i will be more than happy to possibly see the return of the CE pistol.


ps:this is all just a theory. none of this is fact, just opinion.

  • 11.10.2009 1:56 PM PDT

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  • 11.10.2009 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: ligit46
I love the br, dont get me wrong, but technically this will be Halo 0.5 so there shouldnt be a br. my best guess is that they bring back the Halo CE pisstol in place of the br. As sad as i am to possibly see the br go, i will be more than happy to possibly see the return of the CE pistol.


ps:this is all just a theory. none of this is fact, just opinion.


The BR WAS is reach. Read First Strike.
Its more of a prototype weapon, similar to the rifle we saw in the leaks

  • 11.10.2009 3:10 PM PDT

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