Posted by: TransmutationXx
For those who choose not to read the OP I have a tl;dr version right below. (also if you choose not to read the OP atleast read the bolded parts I have quoted in it.)
tl;dr version: Make the enviroment more darker and look like a real battlefield and put some action into the game that'll keep us on the edge.
I agree with you, but Halo community is full of Fanboy F@ggots.
...graphically and environmentally wise. (And a bit gameplay wise.)
As many of you know MW2 just came out and for those who have played the campaign will know what I'm talking about.
But for those who don't let me clarify. By graphically and environmentally wise I mean in a few levels of MW2 it shows citys on fire, buildings blown up, destroyed, the sky filled with helicopters, gun shots and smoke and fire and well it looks like a REAL battlefield. Most of you may have noticed that Halo shows none (if barely) any characteristics resembling a war. And you would think aliens invading earth and planets and trying to kill of the human race would be more bloodshot and darker looking then just humans against humans.
Gameplay wise - No I don't mean knifes, sprint button, or anything Call of Dutyish. I mean like I don't know...put some action into the game? Action like you have no gun and your hopelessly outnumbered running for your life and trying to escape/evade covenant squads. Something that pretty much keeps us on the edge of our seats.
Thoughts? Comments?
(Oh and no I'm not a Call of Duty fanboy before anyones says that. I just simply thought the game was amazing due to its environment and the keep you on the edge of your seat moments and I'm hoping Bungie thinks about this to make Halo: Reach the best damn game out there.)
Posted by: Plain Ben
Man, you should have reworded and removed the words 'Modern Warfare 2', then you wouldn't have these complaint posts.
I for one, agree that Halo should have a similar feel to what the Call of Duty franchise has achieved, warzones that actually have action in the background. Parts of missions where certain circumstances change the gameplay for a while.
Posted by: Frost1691 1691
Of course Halo isn't CoD. Why is it that it's always compared to CoD? There are other FPS's out there with the same basic level of action that CoD has. The real problem I see with Halo is that it doesn't feel like you're in any real danger. On the other hand, in games like CoD, all of the explosions, gunfire everywhere, buildings blowing up, give you feeling of real danger. In Halo it just feels like you're a one man army walking through levels killing anything in your past. There isn't any real challenge. And this doesn't make any sense. It seems that if you're desperately fighting for the survival of all mankind against blood thirsty religious fanatics that want your head on a pike, then you should maybe feel like you're in danger. Halo does not deliver in that aspect.
Posted by: UNKNOWN iXi
Also agreed 100%. The ONLY thing holding Halo's campaign back from GREATNESS is the lack of adrenaline missions. If Halo had more of its story-telling from a 1st person helmet cam and more adrenaline missions where you would play in a scenario outside of the normal fps, say like gunning Covenant down from a Pelican or using a MAC Blast on a Cruiser, then Halo would be THAT MUCH BETTER.
Posted by: flamedude
Most of us have always wanted epic battles in Halo games, and I'd love to see it in Reach. Dozens of Scorpions duking it out with Scarabs and Wraiths, Longsword strikes, Gauss Hogs wailing on Choppers, CCS glassings, shiva nukes, Spartans, ODST drops, machine gun fire, crashing ships, supermacs, jackal snipers, spec op elites. I want all of that.
I was always disappointed that the battles of New Mombasa were so...... empty.
Posted by: LooneyCass1
Posted by: bcod7150
I haven't played MW2's campaign, but I gather from what y'all have said that it's a very cinematic experience.
Which, if you remember, was how the original halo was. You can't say you weren't roused running through the ship unarmed, with screaming navy soldiers and a handful of marines trying to repel boarding parties. It was exciting. It was fun. The entire game, you felt a sense of desperation, and the assault on the beach was just a reinforcement of the fact that, yes, we were in a war, and it felt like a tactical insertion in a futuristic battle when your orbital forces have been crippled.
*THAT FEELING WAS LOST IN HALO 2, HALO 3, and only returned to a minor extent in ODST.*
Don't get me wrong, i loved the games. I couldn't get enough of Master Chief's story. But damnit, a FPS shouldn't have the same layout as a racetrack. We're in a new age, and point A to point B is somewhat ridiculous. Games still do it, but they at least engage you along the way. The later halo games (ODST excluded, kinda) do not. They LITERALLY feel like a race to the objective, which is sometimes what you're able to do.
So yes. If the covenant are shelling an area around you, the earth should shake. Marines should fall. Gears 2 did this well; it felt gritty, dirty, and the characters acted as people would in such situations. Call of Duty did well in their environments, I hear; ODST and halo 3, which were FOUGHT ON EARTH, apparently had a civilian population of 0. Apparently the covenant had no idea of the idea of artillery, or orbital shellling, or any of that. You never rooted the enemy out of their staging areas. You never had to escort civilians, or pull a brute off of someone, or wrench a car door open to let out a screaming kid, or kick over a table to find cover as you try to cut through an apartment and come under fire;
Come on guys. And i know you'll all find things to hate on for my post, but whatever. I'd like a more Breakdown-ish, experience, simply for the fact that the game was engaging as hell.
I don't wanna PLAY halo.
I wanna be IN halo. You know what I mean? make THAT happen.
100% agree.
Although I do like every Halo game, the fact that your going from point A to point B without that adrenaline pumping levels like CoD has is just dissapointing. I hope Reach will add at least a level like this.
^Bolded parts. =)
And everything MLG Cheehwawa said. =)