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Subject: AK-47 in Reach?

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  • 11.14.2009 5:22 PM PDT

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  • 11.14.2009 5:22 PM PDT

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Who is this retard?
The AK-47 is a big pile of s**t!
you know how f***ing unreliable they are in real combat?
No, because you obviously have no actual f***ing experience with guns.

AK's fall to pieces like the s**t they are.
That's why most terrorists use them. They're f***ing cheap. Both financially and physically.



The design has been improved?
So the AK-47 is crap? Thats why its used so much and they keep improving its design more and more right?


The design has been improved?

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  • 11.14.2009 5:28 PM PDT
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I'm sorry if you don't like it, and I suppose you could keep calling me stupid if you want, but this thread didn't get to over 100 replies in a day for nothing. I'd say an AK variant has a decent chance of making it into HR. We can only be sure when more leaked pics or videos come out.

  • 11.14.2009 5:45 PM PDT

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It got over 100 replies because everyone wanted to tell you how dumb of an idea it was. I never called you stupid.

  • 11.14.2009 5:50 PM PDT

An ak-47 will not be in Reach...

100% sure...

  • 11.14.2009 5:53 PM PDT

In all fairness, the AK-47 has stood the test of time for less than a century. I bet you that in one century there will be a gun that is overall better and equally inexpensive, let alone by the year 2552.

  • 11.14.2009 6:05 PM PDT

Test of time? 60 years?

Let's think of a weapon that was popular 500 years ago. The crossbow? When's the last time you saw a crossbow? I remember seeing one in a museum. That's where AK's will be in 500 years... not in the hands of armor-clad super soldiers.

An AK in a Halo game wouldn't be as satisfying as the other weapons, and wouldn't fit. Bungie can balance their Halo games because they make all the weapons from scratch, and don't have to worry about reality.

  • 11.14.2009 6:10 PM PDT

you are out to lunch.

  • 11.14.2009 6:22 PM PDT
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For all we know the AR is the future equivalent of the AK. I'm pretty sure they are built cheap and built reliable. The BR seems like a higher end assault weapon.

It isn't fair to say the AK would be useless in 2552 at all. Frag grenades and other explosives are effective. Wheeled and tracked vehicles are effective. Swords are effective, as are clubs. Knives are the worlds oldest tools and they will never become obsolete. Humanity in the Halo verse relies on gunpowder and projectiles.

That said I don't think it would fit in the Haloverse at all. Maybe a rifle that pays homage to the AK but it would be redundant.

  • 11.14.2009 6:22 PM PDT
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In all fairness, the AK-47 has stood the test of time for less than a century. I bet you that in one century there will be a gun that is overall better and equally inexpensive, let alone by the year 2552.


I'll bet you the AK-47 will still be in military use 100 years from now.

  • 11.14.2009 6:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: EnigmoiD
Test of time? 60 years?

Let's think of a weapon that was popular 500 years ago. The crossbow? When's the last time you saw a crossbow? I remember seeing one in a museum. That's where AK's will be in 500 years... not in the hands of armor-clad super soldiers.

An AK in a Halo game wouldn't be as satisfying as the other weapons, and wouldn't fit. Bungie can balance their Halo games because they make all the weapons from scratch, and don't have to worry about reality.


I don't quite agree with your crossbow comparison. 500 years ago projectile weapons had a hell of a lot more to improve upon considering their rate of fire, accuracy, and stopping power.

I'm not a gun expert but it doesn't seem like the AR, pistol, SMG or shotgun are that much more advanced than current fire arms.

  • 11.14.2009 6:26 PM PDT

The AK could have never existed in the Halo universe.

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  • 11.14.2009 6:30 PM PDT
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I hate to inject logic into this discussion, but we've blown five or so pages on putting the AK-47 into a military science fiction game.
Not a cyberpunk game set 20 minutes into the future. A space opera.

Channeling Light from Death Note Abridged: GET.ON. THE TRAIN!

Five hundred -blam!- years! The military doesn't use muskets anymore. They don't use gatling guns! They don't use bows and arrows or cavalry!

Holy -blam!- on a -blam!- sandwich! I know that the Halo fanbase isn't the most unified bunch. But DAAAAAYYYUUMMM! Five plus pages!
FIVE!

Putting basic reason out of this rant for a moment, lets talk gameplay ballance only.

What does the AK do that an AR or BR does not? Really, where is the niche?

  • 11.14.2009 6:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob

What does the AK do that an AR or BR does not? Really, where is the niche?


Exactly. Like I said they could add a gun to pay homage but it would be a waste of time.

Lets all pretend that the AR is the spiritual successor to the modern AK

  • 11.14.2009 6:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
Five hundred -blam!- years! The military doesn't use muskets anymore. They don't use gatling guns! They don't use bows and arrows or cavalry!


But in halo they use gatling guns, semi automatic pistols, assault rifles, and grenades, all of which is 500 - 600 year old tech. The musket and calvary comparison doesn't work dude.

  • 11.14.2009 6:37 PM PDT

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The AK should be in a glass case in a museum on Reach, where a mission takes place of course, break the glass, grab your gun and your good to go.

Who the -blam!- keeps a loaded gun inside a museum?


I lol'd.

  • 11.14.2009 6:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: SCISSOEMETIMBERS
Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
Five hundred -blam!- years! The military doesn't use muskets anymore. They don't use gatling guns! They don't use bows and arrows or cavalry!


But in halo they use gatling guns, semi automatic pistols, assault rifles, and grenades, all of which is 500 - 600 year old tech. The musket and calvary comparison doesn't work dude.


Different versions. Different models.
They used guns today, as they did 500 years ago. They do not use muskets.

The AK-47 is an assault rifle. We've got an assault rifle. Do the math.

  • 11.14.2009 6:40 PM PDT

So lets just ut this into perspective. Lets say that today the U.S. thinks that arming our troops with muskets and flintlocks from 500 years ago would be a smart move because hey back then they were somewhat reliable and were around for a few hundred years before being replaced. So ya great idea, not!

  • 11.14.2009 6:46 PM PDT

Posted by: zurborg
So lets just ut this into perspective. Lets say that today the U.S. thinks that arming our troops with muskets and flintlocks from 500 years ago would be a smart move because hey back then they were somewhat reliable and were around for a few hundred years before being replaced. So ya great idea, not!

QFT

  • 11.14.2009 6:51 PM PDT

I have never fired a AK-47 before except on Call of Duty 4 and it was deadly accurate remains my favorite gun in the game that and the M4 Carbine but you've made a mistake creating this topic a deadly mistake the AK-47 was made by a Russian Weapons Designer called Mikhail Kalashnikov who served in the Red Army during World War II which started in 1939 and ended in 1945. Halo Reach is in the 26th century almost 700 years after WW2 and the entire earth is united under one banner that means American Weapon Designers would Work with German Weapon Designers and they would work with Russian Weapon Designer who would design a Collaborative Gun clearly shown as the Assault Rifle and the Battle Rifle with clear American influence in them. The AK-47 would be literally extinct by the 26th century and it's design will never return unless Bungie make it so.

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Posted by: zurborg
So lets just ut this into perspective. Lets say that today the U.S. thinks that arming our troops with muskets and flintlocks from 500 years ago would be a smart move because hey back then they were somewhat reliable and were around for a few hundred years before being replaced. So ya great idea, not!


You aren't putting it in perspective though. The difference between a musket and an AK is far greater than the difference between an AK and Halo's AR. Just ask yourself if the AK has the accuracy, stopping power and rate of fire (relative to the AR) for a spartan to effectively use it against convenant...

  • 11.14.2009 6:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: zurborg
So lets just ut this into perspective. Lets say that today the U.S. thinks that arming our troops with muskets and flintlocks from 500 years ago would be a smart move because hey back then they were somewhat reliable and were around for a few hundred years before being replaced. So ya great idea, not!


You aren't putting it in perspective though. The difference between a musket and an AK is far greater than the difference between an AK and Halo's AR. Just ask yourself if the AK has the accuracy, stopping power and rate of fire (relative to the AR) for a spartan to effectively use it against convenant...

You didn't get what he was saying.

  • 11.14.2009 7:01 PM PDT
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fail

  • 11.14.2009 7:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: ZincChilL
Posted by: zurborg
So lets just ut this into perspective. Lets say that today the U.S. thinks that arming our troops with muskets and flintlocks from 500 years ago would be a smart move because hey back then they were somewhat reliable and were around for a few hundred years before being replaced. So ya great idea, not!


You aren't putting it in perspective though. The difference between a musket and an AK is far greater than the difference between an AK and Halo's AR. Just ask yourself if the AK has the accuracy, stopping power and rate of fire (relative to the AR) for a spartan to effectively use it against convenant...


Considering that AK 47s would have long since degraded into dust by 2552, I'd say that the difference in all categories is pretty gorramn big.

  • 11.14.2009 7:03 PM PDT