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Subject: AK-47 in Reach?

Posted by: SCISSOEMETIMBERS
Posted by: Alec9224
I guess this means the OP doesn't have faith in any of the engineers building new weapons. Do you honestly think we would be using a rifle that's 500 years old?

yeah, I mean we use grenades still and those are a really really old technology. Obviously firearm tech hasn't evolved very much in the halo universe and an AK-47 would be viable. So it doesn't have a holographic ammo counter and fancy pants bullpup design? It's still a classic, timeless weapon.


You just won't give up, will you? I get it, you must be a ten year old. That's the only conceivable way that someone would continue to try to promote such a stupid idea. Actually, calling this a stupid idea is an insult to stupid ideas. Stop. Really. Furthermore I think that you fail to grasp that this is a game, as you keep comparing the effectiveness of a real life AK 47 to a gun in a video game.

  • 11.15.2009 3:44 PM PDT

There is absolutely no chance of an Ak-47 being in Reach.

1. The AR has bigger rounds and fires the rounds much faster than the Ak
2. The Ak would fail to penetrate sheilding, somebody in another thread calculated the rounds an M-16 would need to down shields. It was in the hundreds, and the M-16 is a superior rifle than the Ak.
3. When Spartans pull the trigger it would likely fall apart, due to superior strength.

The AR is superior in every way to the AK, why would you use something inferior on superior alien species?

  • 11.15.2009 4:07 PM PDT

I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.

  • 11.15.2009 4:11 PM PDT

Give a valid reason for there to be an AK-47 in a combat situation in Halo.

  • 11.15.2009 4:16 PM PDT

Posted by: diesel93
I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.


Actually the AR fires the bigger NATO 7.62 x 51mm round.

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Posted by: TokiWartooth117
Posted by: diesel93
I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.


Actually the AR fires the bigger NATO 7.62 x 51mm round.


think about it. standard NATO 7.62 lasts 600 years? wow. in that case, the AK woulnd't be too much of a stretch.

  • 11.15.2009 4:19 PM PDT

Posted by: SCISSOEMETIMBERS
Posted by: TokiWartooth117
Posted by: diesel93
I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.


Actually the AR fires the bigger NATO 7.62 x 51mm round.


think about it. standard NATO 7.62 lasts 600 years? wow. in that case, the AK woulnd't be too much of a stretch.


Again, come up with a halo-realistic reason for somebody to -blam!- have an AK-47 on Reach during the fighting. Only one person said something like a halo-era version of the AK.

  • 11.15.2009 4:21 PM PDT

Posted by: TokiWartooth117
Posted by: diesel93
I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.


Actually the AR fires the bigger NATO 7.62 x 51mm round.

Oh my fault.

  • 11.15.2009 4:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: SCISSOEMETIMBERS
The AK is an extremely reliable firearm that has withstood the test of time time. It's as popular as it was sixty years ago. I think it should be in Halo Reach. I know it would be antiquated by Halo's timeline, but who really cares? The AK-47 would be an excellent midrange weapon with a lot of firepower.

EDIT: If you've never shot a gun or AK for that matter, please don't act like you're a reliable source or something. This would be an awesome addition to halo that shouldn't be held back by firearm virgins. Educate yourself and get some real life experience before you dismiss the AK as 'unreliable' or 'highly inaccurate'.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAohtjG14c


I've fired the AK-47 multiple times, both on a firing range and in a shoot house. It is innacurate at longer ranges (300+ yards) compared to other assault rifles. It's legendary reliabilty is no longer as legendary, due to the fact that numerous other firearms have the same (or better) level of durability, while adding better ergonomics and accuracy.

On topic:

No. I fail to see how a weapon's modern day popularity makes it viable to have in a game that takes place over 500 years in the future. The AK-47 has no place in futuristic combat, due to it's inefficencies. Also, it's a freakin Halo game. Why would you want an AK-47 in a Halo game? You think that, over the course of 500 years, they wouldn't have been able to come up with something better?

  • 11.15.2009 4:31 PM PDT

1. The ak is a cheap weapon. it is used in so many ways not because of its greatness; it is used so much because it is practically idiot proof. it needs minimal cleaning, u can beat the crap out of it, and it fires a realtively (to tadays standards) hard hitting round

2 there is no way in hell the ak47 would appear in reach. there are already different variants of the ak designed ( the ak74)... maybe just maybe, there will be an updated version, but it will most likely bear little resemblance to the gun you all recognise.

3 why would you introduce this weapon into the game to begin with? it doesnt fit chronologically, if you think about it, and it isnt mentioned in the books at all.

  • 11.15.2009 4:33 PM PDT

I love how the OP refuses to adress points that destroy his arguement.

  • 11.15.2009 4:36 PM PDT

If we fight the innsurrectionists in this game the might have some because they are freekin rebels who use any gun they can fand

  • 11.15.2009 4:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: SCISSOEMETIMBERS
Posted by: TokiWartooth117
Posted by: diesel93
I hate to be a buzzkill but......doesen't the AR fire 7.62x39mm rounds? So in a way, the AK is with us. But looks more badass and fires 15 rounds per second.


Actually the AR fires the bigger NATO 7.62 x 51mm round.


think about it. standard NATO 7.62 lasts 600 years? wow. in that case, the AK woulnd't be too much of a stretch.


Bullets are bullets. They don't change that much. Firearms, on the other hand, do. Look at the progression of the firearm since the invention of the rifle round. The AK-47 is currently almost obsolete. 500 years from now, it'd be in the same category as slingshots and bow&arrows.

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Posted by: xtcarnage15586
If we fight the innsurrectionists in this game the might have some because they are freekin rebels who use any gun they can fand

yeah it would be cool if they at least were armed with something different than the usual UNSC arsenal.

  • 11.15.2009 5:20 PM PDT

(1)the only way to escape death is death itself.
(2) pwn the world bungie
(3) never give in to BS, your always going good in your own way.

NO AK 47 OR 74 IN HALO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 11.15.2009 5:25 PM PDT

or mabey some future version of the AK-47 to make it more halo like

  • 11.15.2009 5:28 PM PDT

Posted by: xtcarnage15586
or mabey some future version of the AK-47 to make it more halo like


But what would be the point? Ooo now we have the Assault Rifle, and the AK-(whatever number). They do the exact same thing, but who gives a -blam!-?

  • 11.15.2009 5:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: xtcarnage15586
or mabey some future version of the AK-47 to make it more halo like


But what would be the point? Ooo now we have the Assault Rifle, and the AK-(whatever number). They do the exact same thing, but who gives a -blam!-?

Like I said, mabey some innies could have it if we play against them

  • 11.15.2009 5:34 PM PDT

Posted by: firecrakcer
GO TO COD FORUMS AND GET AWAY FROM HALO 3 FORUMS


what? so just cause COD has a gun halo cant??

  • 11.15.2009 5:40 PM PDT
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My god, are we still on about this?

Faith in humanity... fading....

SPACE. OPERA.

NO. AKs. EVVAAAAAAAARRRRR!

  • 11.15.2009 5:43 PM PDT

Sure, why not?

I mean, after all, it's several Hundred years later and weapons are actually LESS effective than they are now.

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Posted by: Ray MK IV
Sure, why not?

I mean, after all, it's several Hundred years later and weapons are actually LESS effective than they are now.



We've got no benchmark to compare UNSC weaponry with modern day weaponry. We don't know how they compare.

  • 11.15.2009 5:47 PM PDT

AK-47 is rapid fire
Assault rifle is rapid fire.
AK-47 has a medium sized clip
Assault rifle has a medium sized clip.
AK-47 has medium range
Assault rifle has medium range
AK-47 leaves you to guess how many bullets are left in the clip
Assault rifle tells you how many bullets are left in the clip.
Assault rifle can interface with Neural implants
AF-47 cannot.
AR>AK-47. No need for an AK, for the simple reason it's not as good as a gun we already have, and it would do more or less the same thing.

  • 11.15.2009 6:00 PM PDT

I am a Halo 3 Failure.

The Assault Rifle is not an AK47, however, the SMG is basically an AK74u, so in a sense, yes, we have an AK in Halo.

  • 11.15.2009 6:02 PM PDT