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Subject: I Really Hope Reach Does Better than MW2

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I sure hope so too. All my friends make fun of me for supporting Halo. They test me with lies, saying that MW2 is the best video game EVER...

We'll show them...AM I RIGHT, BUNGIE COMMUNITY?

  • 11.14.2009 4:40 PM PDT

Agreed, Halo: Reach needs to be something truly special. Even I, a person who has never been that into CoD games, have become entralled with MW2.

Don't fail us Bungie. I'm willing to let the travesty that was ODST slide, but mess up on Reach, and I'll certainly be weary before preordering one of your products again.

However, I'm sure Reach will be epic-winsauce, so I'm worrying over nothing.

  • 11.14.2009 4:41 PM PDT

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newsflash pal. it wont.


Hmm... I think it's pretty much a given that Reach will far surpass MW2 on all terms.

  • 11.14.2009 4:58 PM PDT

Posted by: chris kassabian
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You can't really compare Halo to MW2. They are two totally different games. I bought MW2 on release date. The campaign is not really anything new. Basically the same stuff as the first one. Except a new part of the story. It had some great parts in it though. The multi player is basically the same also.


To the guy who said MW2 has beaten Halo 3. What do you mean beaten?
Yes, you can totally compare Halo to MW2 in success. People weren't let down by MW2. I want Reach to make a big impact.


I was let down. They way they built the hype for MW2. For it to be almost an exact remake of COD4.

  • 11.14.2009 5:03 PM PDT

Meh, I will only play MW2 if my neighbor lets me borrow it. Even then I'll approach it with speculation since MW1 was a poor campaign to me, and that's the main thing I play games for. WaW was a decent one, I liked it better then MW1.

  • 11.14.2009 5:04 PM PDT

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Modern Warfare will be hard to beat. Especially in Multiplayer. Reach is going to have to be pretty amazing to even be as good as Modern Warfare 2.

But i am confident that Reach will probably have a Kick-Ass Campaign.

  • 11.14.2009 5:12 PM PDT

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modern warfare 2 is only fun for about a week then it loses its ''taste''

  • 11.14.2009 5:18 PM PDT

Posted by: cress19
Posted by: chris kassabian
Posted by: cress19
You can't really compare Halo to MW2. They are two totally different games. I bought MW2 on release date. The campaign is not really anything new. Basically the same stuff as the first one. Except a new part of the story. It had some great parts in it though. The multi player is basically the same also.


To the guy who said MW2 has beaten Halo 3. What do you mean beaten?
Yes, you can totally compare Halo to MW2 in success. People weren't let down by MW2. I want Reach to make a big impact.


I was let down. They way they built the hype for MW2. For it to be almost an exact remake of COD4.

Ditto. I totally felt like I was just playing CoD4 with better graphics and some things that could have been DLC. If anything ODST was worth my $60 and MW2 wasn't.

  • 11.14.2009 5:27 PM PDT

Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH
Posted by: cress19
Posted by: chris kassabian
Posted by: cress19
You can't really compare Halo to MW2. They are two totally different games. I bought MW2 on release date. The campaign is not really anything new. Basically the same stuff as the first one. Except a new part of the story. It had some great parts in it though. The multi player is basically the same also.


To the guy who said MW2 has beaten Halo 3. What do you mean beaten?
Yes, you can totally compare Halo to MW2 in success. People weren't let down by MW2. I want Reach to make a big impact.


I was let down. They way they built the hype for MW2. For it to be almost an exact remake of COD4.

Ditto. I totally felt like I was just playing CoD4 with better graphics and some things that could have been DLC. If anything ODST was worth my $60 and MW2 wasn't.


oh and the campaign little discription here: to short and badly written. And i'm tired of being shot in the cheast.

and can someone who has played MW2 explain to me why sheperd shot you? and the over killed you

  • 11.14.2009 5:39 PM PDT
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I think for Reach to be good they are going to have to come up with something new. There really weren't any new things added between Halo 2 and Halo 3. I didn't like that at all.

For Reach they are going to have to go beyond just adding equipment and new grenades. They will have to let us experience campaign in new ways. I don't Reach will be that good of a game if they just put us up against the same enemies and tell us to get from point A to point B.

I think if they let us man the turret on the back of the pelican for part of a level it would spice things up a lot. One thing they'd have to do is actually make the game hard. We are supposed to be against an army far superior to ours and we are supposed to be doomed to fail, but in every game so, except for maybe Halo CE, we have been able to kill have of them alone. They need to add the feel of desperation that Halo 1 had back into the game. Sure, we are super-soldiers, but we shouldn't feel like we're invincible.

Also, give us a choice in campaign. I'm tired of having 'linear' maps. I like being able to choose between path 1 and path 2 even though they go to the same spot. By letting us do that we can work to take out harder situations. Of course, this won't matter if we can just walk through their army.

  • 11.14.2009 5:43 PM PDT

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First and foremost I am a huge Halo fan, and can not wait until Reach! Now, Just to let everyone know that Reach will never out sell MW2 as Reach is a 360 exclusive where as MW2 is multi-platform. Would I love for Reach to absolutely destroy MW2? That is a huge Positive! But, with what I aforementioned above, sadly it will not. Graphically, Campaign, Dialogue, etc. Reach very well does have the chance, and opportunity to beat MW2. Here is hoping it does!

See you all in the spring with the Reach Beta! Or, maybe in some Matchmaking, whether it be Reach, O.D.S.T., or H3! Better yet how about I just say see you in matchmaking in any of the Halo Franchises...lol

  • 11.14.2009 6:13 PM PDT

I would pay $15, maximum for the new Call of Duty. I don't find it very fun. It's very repetitive, the gameplay encourages camping, and it takes very little individual skill.

  • 11.14.2009 6:16 PM PDT

Posted by: TRIGGERHAPPY301
and can someone who has played MW2 explain to me why sheperd shot you? and the over killed you


You see, he wanted America to go to war with the world, so he could be a historic hero. So he set up Private Allen at the beginning to take the fall, to make the Russians blame America. He was satisfied when the Russians invaded. However, one loose end remained; Task Force 141. They knew about Private Allen going undercover at the airport, and they were the only ones to know. So Shepard tried to kill them all, to stop them ruining the war he had started. Price and Soap survived, but with them as fugitives, who will ever believe them? No one. Which is why in MW3, they'll be going after the one man who knows the whole thing. Makarov.

How could you not like the MW2 campaign? It was amazingly deep.

  • 11.14.2009 6:24 PM PDT

Posted by: ev1l tr1t0n
Posted by: x Z MIKE x
newsflash pal. it wont.


Hmm... I think it's pretty much a given that Reach will far surpass MW2 on all terms.


Maybe. It certainly doesn't seem to have the same hype surrounding it that Halo 3 did.

Sure us Halotards are excited about it, and want to see it succeed, but most people I talk to, even serious gamers, have no idea wtf Halo: Reach even is, or that there's even another Halo game coming out. EVERYONE knew about Halo 3 long before it came out, everyone was waiting to know what happened at the end of the story, and to finish the fight.

Reach seems to have more of an air of "Oh, another Halo game is coming out, we'll see how it is" to it, rather than a "OMFG THIS IS GOING TO BE TEH GREATEST GAME EVER!!!"

We'll see.

[Edited on 11.14.2009 7:55 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2009 7:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Wolverfrog
You see, he wanted America to go to war with the world, so he could be a historic hero. So he set up Private Allen at the beginning to take the fall, to make the Russians blame America. He was satisfied when the Russians invaded. However, one loose end remained; Task Force 141. They knew about Private Allen going undercover at the airport, and they were the only ones to know. So Shepard tried to kill them all, to stop them ruining the war he had started. Price and Soap survived, but with them as fugitives, who will ever believe them? No one. Which is why in MW3, they'll be going after the one man who knows the whole thing. Makarov.

How could you not like the MW2 campaign? It was amazingly deep.


I more got the impression that he in his own messed up way was trying to be a patriot.

"Five years ago I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye.. And the world just -blam!- watched." Him talking about how "Tomorrow, there will be no shortage of volunteers, no shortage of patriots.." made me think he was doing it all to make America "patriotic again", similar to how America was post-9/11.

[Edited on 11.14.2009 7:56 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2009 7:53 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

A lot of people are already getting bored of MW2. Reach will easily beat it.

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I feel the same but with a few added feelings. Halo is by far my favorite game of all time but we are approching 2010 and the graphics in Halo really need to be revamped, it's very disppointing after looking at MW2. ODST was fair at best. I have to go back to the graphics, they blow. It's time for an over haul. I'd like to see bungie redefine the first person shooter with the next halo game and I for one could care less about playing as anyone but the chief. Playing as anyone else is a waste of a great icon.

  • 11.14.2009 7:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Tucker 051
A lot of people are already getting bored of MW2. Reach will easily beat it.


Is this the Halo fan inside of you, or your actual logic speaking?

Every day since 11/10, there's been at least 800k to 1mil people on at any given time. Counting everyone who's online in 24 hours, it's likely in the millions.

I'd like to see what's giving you the impression MW2 is already dying.

[Edited on 11.14.2009 8:01 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2009 7:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: EvenFlow 117
I feel the same but with a few added feelings. Halo is by far my favorite game of all time but we are approching 2010 and the graphics in Halo really need to be revamped, it's very disppointing after looking at MW2. ODST was fair at best. I have to go back to the graphics, they blow. It's time for an over haul. I'd like to see bungie redefine the first person shooter with the next halo game and I for one could care less about playing as anyone but the chief. Playing as anyone else is a waste of a great icon.


ODST used the same engine as Halo 3 but it had very slightly improved graphics. MW2 also has crappy graphics(looks just like MW1). Reach will have great graphics. Bungie has been working on the new engine for quite a while.
Get ready to be disappointed about the Chief, cos we almost certainly won't be playing as him.

  • 11.14.2009 8:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Posted by: Tucker 051
A lot of people are already getting bored of MW2. Reach will easily beat it.


Is this the Halo fan inside of you, or your actual logic speaking?

Every day since 11/10, there's been at least 800k to 1mil people on at any given time. Counting everyone who's online in 24 hours, it's likely in the millions.

I'd like to see what's giving you the impression MW2 is already dying.

I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just stating what a quite a few people have been saying.


[Edited on 11.14.2009 8:03 PM PST]

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i love halo i have always stayed loyal to it. I think its the best game series for the xbox. Although halo odst was a huge let down (lets be honest here people) i still play it. Reach will hopefully be better or as good as MW2 which being honest again is a semi awsome game. Halo is the only game that makes the players get emotional attached to the characters. Who was sad in the back of their mind whan the saw that Johnson died or when Master chief's part of the ship didnt make it back. We al;l were and yet I had none of that inodst. Granite Halo did have three games to build that bond. Halo always had thos nail biting moments where there was always the risk of chief dieing. where was that in odst? oh look more covenent weee. No good cinematic scenes. Hopefully reach is bugies way of bouncing back from odst and has everything and more thet halo 1,2, and 3 had. Thats it oh and BTW way everything doesnt have to be a competion against other game guys come on we are embarassing them

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Posted by: EvenFlow 117
I feel the same but with a few added feelings. Halo is by far my favorite game of all time but we are approching 2010 and the graphics in Halo really need to be revamped, it's very disppointing after looking at MW2. ODST was fair at best. I have to go back to the graphics, they blow. It's time for an over haul. I'd like to see bungie redefine the first person shooter with the next halo game and I for one could care less about playing as anyone but the chief. Playing as anyone else is a waste of a great icon.


ODST used the same engine as Halo 3 but it had very slightly improved graphics. MW2 also has crappy graphics(looks just like MW1). Reach will have great graphics. Bungie has been working on the new engine for quite a while.
Get ready to be disappointed about the Chief, cos we almost certainly won't be playing as him.


How did ODST have better graphics? If anything they were worse, it had that PS2 screen fuzz to cover up the underpowered rendering. Just look at the faces, the ones in Halo 3 were way better. ODST was blocky in that sense.

And if we are Blue Team the Chief will be in it. I am curious as to how they are going to tell this story though, because there are so many Spartans.
MW is largely a MP game, but they don't seem to have to put as much work into it to make it play right as they do with Halo. The two are very different. Most war games are just shoot everything that moves. All of the guns are just guns. They all have there own little quirks, but it's just bullets. In Halo they design the MP experience in a more arcade style, if you know what I mean.
Each gun is quite distinct, and they seem to have a weapon for specific purposes. Shields play such a large part as well. You can't just kill someone by shooting them. You have to make good consecutive shots to put someone down. Everything about Halo is a delicate balance. And there is oh so much work put in to making everything just so.


And we can thank M$ for killing the hype. There is Halo everything now, and people are just like oh another Halo. The time between ODST and Reach should have been another year. If you remember the release got pushed back by M$. It was supposed to come out mush earlier as an expansion, and likely cost less than it did. But instead we have ODST right now. It overshadows the upcoming release, because it is so new. And people were less than satisfied, because it's been marketed as a standalone title and cost just as much. This has hurt Halo's rep just like Wars did. It's no surprise that everyone has mixed feelings about yet another Halo game. And with M$ 343 Industries promising future releases people don't see this as the last and final, go out swinging, release that it really is.

Even if Reach doesn't build the hype we want, we can be confident that it will outlast the competition just like Halo 3 did.

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  • 11.14.2009 9:04 PM PDT

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I actually loved ODST but I guess its a matter of opinion.

Don't worry Reach will rip MWII any day.

  • 11.14.2009 9:46 PM PDT

If Bungie learned anything from the beauty that is MW2's campaign, its that HUGE action movie quality chases/escapes are awesome and each needs to happen at least once.

Edit: I HIGHLY doubt it will get anywhere close to MW2's numbers. This is not saying it will suck, be that it will be confined to one system while the CoD games are all multi-plat.

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  • 11.14.2009 9:47 PM PDT

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It will.


How do you know that? MW2 was a juggernaut it will be very hard to beat.

  • 11.14.2009 11:40 PM PDT

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