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Subject: I Really Hope Reach Does Better than MW2

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Is everyone not understanding something here, there are only a few of us that have actually posted real logic here. Reach can't beat MW2 in sales ever. Only in gameplay it can, Reach will not be as huge as MW2. So stop saaying it will beat MW2, or at least specify what you are saying Reach will beat MW2 in. Reach is limited to the 360, MW2 is all platforms to sell in. Reach will not outsell MW2 anyday, no matter how much we want it too. I would love Reach to beat MW2 in everything, it just purely can not happen.

Reach can beat MW2 in Quality (I really hope it does, and would love to see it), but surely not Quanity (I really wish it could, and would love to it in this as well)!

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  • 11.15.2009 10:51 AM PDT

Personally, I think an actual "skilled" person in Halo 3 is someone who knows how to win with every weapon and combo in the game, not just a single weapon like the BR, Sniper, or even the AR. Of course, that excludes me, as I have yet to get a kill with dual plasma pistols. :D

Unfortunately, I think the only way Reach can beat MW2 in sales is if it's for more than one platform. Maybe Bungie will realize this and at least give it a Steam release, I don't know.

  • 11.15.2009 10:58 AM PDT

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Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.

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  • 11.15.2009 11:54 AM PDT

lol halo fanboy! jkjk but yeah i hope it does as well

  • 11.15.2009 11:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: DeluxEd247
Is everyone not understanding something here, there are only a few of us that have actually posted real logic here. Reach can't beat MW2 in sales ever. Only in gameplay it can, Reach will not be as huge as MW2. So stop saaying it will beat MW2, or at least specify what you are saying Reach will beat MW2 in. Reach is limited to the 360, MW2 is all platforms to sell in. Reach will not outsell MW2 anyday, no matter how much we want it too. I would love Reach to beat MW2 in everything, it just purely can not happen.


Reach can beat MW2 in Quality (I really hope it does, and would love to see it), but surely not Quanity (I really wish it could, and would love to it in this as well)!


Funny you use the word logic then say reach can beat MW2 in game play? They are separate games and that is a matter of opinion not fact.

  • 11.15.2009 12:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: WsP POP TART
Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.


Yes I'm sure you aren't....

  • 11.15.2009 12:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: WsP POP TART
Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.
ODST was an EXPAINSION. it was not a full out game. Bungie only worked non it for 1 1/2 years and you expect it to be the bar for MW2 that had many years put into it. reach will beat the crap out of MW2 when it comes out cause this is bungies chance to prove that they are legite and can beat a full Infinity Ward team anyday

  • 11.15.2009 12:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: WsP POP TART
Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.
ODST was an EXPAINSION. it was not a full out game. Bungie only worked non it for 1 1/2 years and you expect it to be the bar for MW2 that had many years put into it. reach will beat the crap out of MW2 when it comes out cause this is bungies chance to prove that they are legite and can beat a full Infinity Ward team anyday


Sounds like a MW2 fan. ODST came out before MW2, was made in a year/ year and a half by a small group while everybody in the Bungie studies was working on Reach, including those working on ODST.

If you really have to make Modern Warfare 2 feel better by comparing it to a game with half as much time and people working on it, something must be lacking about MW2.

  • 11.15.2009 12:22 PM PDT

52,000 kills in Halo 2 and more legendary playthroughs in CE than you can imagine. I am truly a God.
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ODST was for the fans of Halo it was not expected to sell better than Halo 3. Back to the point you people are stupid this thread is stupid there is no reason the Halo needs to do better than MW2 they are two completely different games and as i said this is stupid! I hope it gets locked.

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  • 11.15.2009 12:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
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Posted by: WsP POP TART
Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.
ODST was an EXPAINSION. it was not a full out game. Bungie only worked non it for 1 1/2 years and you expect it to be the bar for MW2 that had many years put into it. reach will beat the crap out of MW2 when it comes out cause this is bungies chance to prove that they are legite and can beat a full Infinity Ward team anyday


Sounds like a MW2 fan. ODST came out before MW2, was made in a year/ year and a half by a small group while everybody in the Bungie studies was working on Reach, including those working on ODST.

If you really have to make Modern Warfare 2 feel better by comparing it to a game with half as much time and people working on it, something must be lacking about MW2.
exactly my point!

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Yea I can agree with you to a certain point. But they can't just "make it better than MW2" cause that is just other peoples opinions about the game or how much they like it. I think I will like it more than MW2 but that is just because I enjoy "Halo" over "CoD". And one more thing you have to take in consideration, Bungie said they only had a little over year to make ODST. For only a year they did pretty good. :)

  • 11.15.2009 12:30 PM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.

It's probably because it's called Halo: Reach, and not too many people have read the book. If it was called Halo 4, oh, you know what would happen.
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newsflash pal. it wont.


Hmm... I think it's pretty much a given that Reach will far surpass MW2 on all terms.


Maybe. It certainly doesn't seem to have the same hype surrounding it that Halo 3 did.

Sure us Halotards are excited about it, and want to see it succeed, but most people I talk to, even serious gamers, have no idea wtf Halo: Reach even is, or that there's even another Halo game coming out. EVERYONE knew about Halo 3 long before it came out, everyone was waiting to know what happened at the end of the story, and to finish the fight.

Reach seems to have more of an air of "Oh, another Halo game is coming out, we'll see how it is" to it, rather than a "OMFG THIS IS GOING TO BE TEH GREATEST GAME EVER!!!"

We'll see.

  • 11.15.2009 12:34 PM PDT

Right, so ODST's reason for being so meh is that it's an expansion. Well it's the same price as MW2.

Anyway, I'm sure I will like Reach more than MW2, but I doubt it will sell more.

  • 11.15.2009 12:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Gold Rogue Guy
Right, so ODST's reason for being so meh is that it's an expansion. Well it's the same price as MW2.

Anyway, I'm sure I will like Reach more than MW2, but I doubt it will sell more.


Once again, it has been said thousands of times before. MICROSOFT priced the game, not Bungie.

  • 11.15.2009 12:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

It is not called "Halo 4" and that is what is going to throw a lot of casual gamers off. Considering this is a 3 year project by Bungie they are going to put a lot of hype into it.

We all saw how much hype they put into ODST and it paid off for them. I am excited to see what they will do with Reach. People cannot really compare Halo and Call of Duty.

Halo 3 went up against the first MW, World at War, and now MW2. The population merely has a dent in it and will grow strong once the MW2 hype dies down.

The only game to actually hurt Halo 2's population was Halo 3. Halo: Reach will be the only game to hurt Halo 3's population.

  • 11.15.2009 12:45 PM PDT
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Nope never bungie has a contract with microsoft (i think)

  • 11.15.2009 1:16 PM PDT

Light a log on fire and a man will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and that man will be warm for the rest of his life.

To be honest, ODST killed that chance. Reach won't be nearly as hyped.

Unless they make it truly impressive and different from Halo 3, it's only really going to Reach out to Halo fanboys.

There's no story in it that will solve anything presented before, it will likely have the same graphics, the gameplay will be pretty much the same, less will view it as a good game because ODST came out sour.

I don't see it doing better.

  • 11.15.2009 1:26 PM PDT

Posted by: Spaceboy246
To be honest, ODST killed that chance. Reach won't be nearly as hyped.

Unless they make it truly impressive and different from Halo 3, it's only really going to Reach out to Halo fanboys.

There's no story in it that will solve anything presented before, it will likely have the same graphics, the gameplay will be pretty much the same, less will view it as a good game because ODST came out sour.

I don't see it doing better.


Besides the fact it will have an entirely new game engine, new graphics and gameplay?

  • 11.15.2009 1:28 PM PDT

Posted by: moffpro9999
i guess halo has had its days with halo 1-3 but yet agian isnt reach bungie's last halo game?


For the xbox 360, yes. Bungie said they aren't seriously plotting out a new game yet.

  • 11.15.2009 3:07 PM PDT
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I believe they should not have a deadline and work on it until it's basically perfect.
Like what Blizzard does.

  • 11.15.2009 3:08 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
He means first day sales probably, which is no big surprise.

Halo 3: Xbox 360
MW2: PC, Xbox 360, PS3

No duh it is going to sell more.
I never thought of that.

  • 11.15.2009 3:09 PM PDT

Agreed sense of epicness and terror from the Covenant, Huge battles in space like star wars, and in fields like Lord of the rings, Hollywood quality cinematics and emotional scenes, oh about ODLC lets forget that ever happened horrible game. Just bury it in your garden.

  • 11.15.2009 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: WsP POP TART
Halo had its chance to beat MW2 with ODST, and guess what, they failed. Halo is to mainstream, (Go back to the crew who made Halo 1) and until they get their act together, I'm not buying any more games made buy bungie.


Did you just say that Halo is mainstream while comparing it to Call of Duty?

P.S. When was ODST ever competing with MW2? Oh right, it never was.

  • 11.15.2009 3:59 PM PDT

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