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Subject: how to fix flag juggling

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So far no one has even said why they think flag running is "cheap and stupid." I agree that the voice is annoying, but there's a lot of ways they can fix that without changing flag running.

  • 11.15.2009 9:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: Srgt N00b
not to offend anyone, but the people who generally hate flag running are the people who cant use the br. What people tend to forget is that halo is a shooter and not not a noobfest of retard running around with for example hammers (grifball). Do you hear people complaining in other shooters, oh lets remove the medium ranged weapons because they are too hard to use or are too powerful. whats wrecking halo is all the dumb side games like rocket race and infection. go play mario kart if you like racing so much or those zombie games if you like infection. Halo has catered to both the competitive and non competitive community by creating both ranked and unranked playlists. the main problem comes with people forgetting that halo is a shooter, and like in almost every shooter the middle-ranged weapon is going to generally be the best but hardest to use weapon. Sorry for going off-topic and rambling on but i felt it needed to be said.


No... Just no. I CAN use the br but I dont give a -blam!- about my rank or flag running. The only thing wrong with it is that the announcer is REALLY annoying otherwise it is fine. I play halo to have fun NOT to waste my life and be a "1337 mlg br pro".

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  • 11.15.2009 9:48 AM PDT

LMAO. Someones mad that they got pwnt in MLG. Jesus kid, Flag Running is a strategy, just cause you cant do it doesnt mean that bungie should remove it for the people who actually use it. Imagine playing and having to move so slowly? Flag Running Fixes that.

  • 11.15.2009 9:48 AM PDT

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flag running is a tactic, not cheap, learn how to stop it and you'll be set
If you drop the flag you can't pick it up for 3 seconds.

that would be an epic fail

  • 11.15.2009 9:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: funbun777
I think flag juggling is a cheap tactic and shoud not be in halo reach

if flag juggling is cheap, what about oddball/bomb dropping, that must also be cheap. Lets also add in leaving the hill in a king of the hill gametype is also cheap. How about once you start capturing a territory, you can't stop capturing it. Changing weapons is also cheap, why should someone be allowed to exchange weapons, bungie intended us to startwith ar/br or snipers or shotguns or ... depending on the mode. Strafing is also cheap, how are we supposed to kill someone if they move left or right. I also believe headshots should be removed, it gives people with good aim an unfair advantage. Grenades are also cheap, they should warn us where grenades land at all times and give us a countdown on when they explode. Do you see how dumb some of theses request can sound?
Flag dropping is a legit strategy. Lets take neutral assualt game for example. People need to drop the bomb so that they can help their team to move the bomb to their base, by helping take down the enemy. Why should his team be penalized for having good teamwork. In lonewolves oddball, you cant expect to carry the ball the whole time, your going to have to drop it to defend yourself. Why should the rules be any different for flag. Teamwork is required to move the flag from one base to the other. The flag carrier is going to need to drop the flag to help his team out or to defend himself. You cant punish the flag carrier for being a good teammate. Also if you think of it physically, flag throwing makes sense. If you are holding a large object, you are going to move slower, but if you throw it ahead of you, then run after it, you will move along faster, unless real life is cheap for you

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  • 11.15.2009 10:01 AM PDT

What about weapon running?

Both Flag and weapon running are LEGIT tactics.

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  • 11.15.2009 10:08 AM PDT
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I think that after dropping a flag you can't pick it back up for just long enough to make it impossible to flag run, but not long enough to inconvenience someone who isn't flag running.

  • 11.15.2009 10:11 AM PDT

*Bobfather17*

Posted by: Cranium Crater
I think that after dropping a flag you can't pick it back up for just long enough to make it impossible to flag run, but not long enough to inconvenience someone who isn't flag running.

Flag running doesn't need to be taken out though. It helps add strategy and skill. No one has yet made an arguement for why it is "cheap", only that the announcer is annoying (which is a different issue).

  • 11.15.2009 10:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cranium Crater
I think that after dropping a flag you can't pick it back up for just long enough to make it impossible to flag run, but not long enough to inconvenience someone who isn't flag running.
Bungie wont do that since it would mess up regular running with the flag. People die and drop the flag, and also need to drop it and quickly pick it up and run again.

  • 11.15.2009 10:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Srgt N00b
not to offend anyone, but the people who generally hate flag running are the people who cant use the br. What people tend to forget is that halo is a shooter and not not a noobfest of retard running around with for example hammers (grifball). Do you hear people complaining in other shooters, oh lets remove the medium ranged weapons because they are too hard to use or are too powerful. whats wrecking halo is all the dumb side games like rocket race and infection. go play mario kart if you like racing so much or those zombie games if you like infection. Halo has catered to both the competitive and non competitive community by creating both ranked and unranked playlists. the main problem comes with people forgetting that halo is a shooter, and like in almost every shooter the middle-ranged weapon is going to generally be the best but hardest to use weapon. Sorry for going off-topic and rambling on but i felt it needed to be said.


Who are you to say im not good with the BR? I personally think that flag juggling is annoying as -blam!- but i know how to use the BR, as much as i do hate using it.

  • 11.15.2009 10:23 AM PDT

i doesn't need fixed.
if you carry it it allows you to sneak around but you move slower.

if you juggle it you can easily be found but you move faster.

the only real way to fix if you really wanted to would be to make you run as fast when you carry the flag as you do when you don't have it. like in halo:CE"

  • 11.15.2009 10:25 AM PDT

As a principle, I never juggle the flag.

I've thought about solutions, and I think what should happen is when you grab the flag at its spawn point, you grab it normally. However, when you drop it, it gets stuck for a full second. It's a simple solution that would end the problem.

  • 11.15.2009 10:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: LegendaryFluffy
As a principle, I never juggle the flag.

I've thought about solutions, and I think what should happen is when you grab the flag at its spawn point, you grab it normally. However, when you drop it, it gets stuck for a full second. It's a simple solution that would end the problem.


The thing is, it's not a problem, so there is no "solution".

  • 11.15.2009 10:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: TPGBaseOfSpades
Flag Running isn't cheap, can anyone explain to me how it is? It gives the enemy an advantage because they know where your flag is, exchanged for running slightly faster.

Sounds like a fair trade off to me.


Exactly, the only thing that should be fixed is the voice "flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped, flag taken, flag dropped.

This makes me just want too mute my TV

  • 11.15.2009 11:31 AM PDT

Posted by: funbun777
I think flag juggling is a cheap tactic and shoud not be in halo reach which is why I came up with a spolution eveytime you drop the in motion it rips the cloth slightly at first but with more obsseive juggling it could be destroyed entirly it would be known as flag damage the same thing would happen if it was shot at directly or with exposive damage .

As a side note if you have a clan you could put your emblem on the flag it would use a new emblem craftsystem in which you can use natal for emblems (not combat) to draw any design you want.

its a tactic, and requires skill.
if you cant beat em. join em

  • 11.15.2009 11:31 AM PDT

Posted by: funbun777
I think flag juggling is a cheap tactic and shoud not be in halo reach which is why I came up with a spolution eveytime you drop the in motion it rips the cloth slightly at first but with more obsseive juggling it could be destroyed entirly it would be known as flag damage the same thing would happen if it was shot at directly or with exposive damage .

As a side note if you have a clan you could put your emblem on the flag it would use a new emblem craftsystem in which you can use natal for emblems (not combat) to draw any design you want.

"shot at directly" oh wow.

"FLAG TAKEN"
-sniper shot from across the map-
"FLAG RETURNED"

  • 11.15.2009 11:33 AM PDT

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