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Subject: How To Fix The Shotgun

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Posted by: Agent Peeps
Posted by: LinkLegend0
So basically, its overpowered at the short range it has and underpowered at anywhere past the short range it has.
So it's doing what it's designed to do and you want it changed?

Everything in Halo 3 does what its designed to do, does that make Halo 3 perfect? No.

I'm just saying thats its stupid to be ridiculously overpowered and overshadowing every other close range weapon and on the other hand have close to no range-damage distribution. Basically all it does is make all the other close range weapons useless, so why have them in? I say make the shotgun more realistic and more usefull.


On the contrary, that is pretty much the definition of perfect.

  • 11.15.2009 10:49 PM PDT

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Actually, a great means of getting rid of the only problem Camping adds, would be to trigger a blue hue on the motion tracker over an area an enemy player has stayed for the last 15 seconds or longer, indicating that the area is hot.

  • 11.15.2009 10:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: LinkLegend0
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Read the top half of your OP, that is exactly what a shotgun is limited and designed to do.

But the Halo 1 shotgun was much better and the shotgun in Halo 3 is just stupid, it promotes camping and is better than all other close range weapons, its stupid, we have shotguns today that have way better range than the one in Halo 3.

that's because the halo 1 shotgun was using in close quarters there was no need to camp. look at battle creek there's no such thing as open space, even blood gulch it worked perfectly in the base.

  • 11.15.2009 11:23 PM PDT

The only thing I'd like to happen to the shotgun is that it still kills at close range but can fire a bit further away and at the furthest range it will do about half the damage a shotgun does at close range.

  • 11.15.2009 11:48 PM PDT

I just wasted a few seconds of your life and you're never getting them back!

I realise that the shotgun is a make-or-break gun. Either you kill them or they kill you. Even the spread of the shotgun is way to wide. I think the shotgun should actually hit within the circle on youur HUD, but make it weaker to compensate.

  • 11.16.2009 12:02 AM PDT

the shotgun is good, but its range is far too short

  • 11.16.2009 2:20 AM PDT

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i think what you are describing is a Mauler.

  • 11.16.2009 2:54 AM PDT

Death to rank junkies.

Yes the shotgun should do light damage at range, but a one shot kill at close range makes the shotgun a shotgun.

  • 11.16.2009 5:14 AM PDT

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I told you to look out, but know, you got in my way, was going to shoot that splaser....

The shotgun is as good as it can get, in my opinion. Yes is basically instint kills at, in your face range, but it also has it counters, BR, AR, SMG, PR, PP, Rockets, basically anything with actual range is its' counter. Does that mean it needs buffed? No. The shotgun is a close-range support weapon that is ment to be deadly at a certain range, but as you get farther from that range, it can still cripple you, but not kill. It is the way the shotgun is designed in the first place. As some prievious posters have said "It's a Close Quaters Weapon". They are correct. It is a close quaters weapon and ment to be powerful at close range.
If you want to use a shotgun, fine. Just don't cry about how your shotty got beaten by a rocket luancher, a Battle Rifle, or hell even an Assualt Rifle. The shotgun is not a all purpose weapon, so don't make it one, most people shoot you with a BR, and if your stupid enough to stay close they swap to shotgun for the kill. It's the way it's sapose to work, it is the way it works, so stop crying over something that doesn't need nerfed or buffed.
Thank you, have a nice day.
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[Edited on 11.16.2009 5:18 AM PST]

  • 11.16.2009 5:16 AM PDT
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A single mauler is an instant kill at extreme close range by the way guys.

  • 11.16.2009 5:18 AM PDT

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The shot-gun has balance issues, I'll give you that. But they did pretty well with it in this game. It actually takes some skill to use. You need to know when to fire, and when to dash for cover and such.

  • 11.16.2009 5:20 AM PDT
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That is what the shotgun is designed for, so I don't see why they should change it. On the other hand, I think it would work.

As it stands now, the shotgun, as you said, is really only good for camping or use as a secondary weapon for those "Oh crap" moments. If they'd make the shotgun like you said, a shotgun/beatdown would still make it an instakill at close range, but it would allow it more usefulness when moving around as opposed to just camping. This would also allow the sword to have some actual usefullness on certain maps, as now it is unable to do anything on shotgun maps.

Anyway, I don't think it needs to be changed, as it's a great weapon to have as secondary as a sniper, or if you're moving across a map to assault the base (for the assault part). It's not meant to be functional at many ranges.

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  • 11.16.2009 5:38 AM PDT

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I think the shotgun should be just plain weaker so that you can't one shot people, you have to beat them down.
Because, people with shotguns in a regenerator at a base on Isolation can easily get exterminations if the other team only has ARs. I would know.
If shotguns absolutely needed beatdowns unless you were truly point blank, shotguns wouldn't have total close range domination, and they would also take some degree of skill.

  • 11.16.2009 5:41 AM PDT

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Change the ammo from a buckshot to a deer slug? Idk.

But in my opinion, the Rock-Paper-Scissors element HAS to go. Halo CE was much better in balance, and it didn't use insta-kills that cannot be countered by skill or timing.

  • 11.16.2009 5:47 AM PDT

I think it needs to have a little more range and still be powerfull up close but not so much far away

  • 11.16.2009 7:27 AM PDT

I would think it would depend on the ammo. Buck shot for close range, and deer slug for medium range. Knowing the marines they could use a tungsten core for the deer slug.

  • 11.16.2009 7:35 AM PDT

Halo 3: ODST = $30

Why are you only complaining about the shotgun when the sword is the same? Heck even the rocket launcher has the same issues. The shotgun is fine the way it is and should/will not be changed besides its looks.

  • 11.16.2009 7:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Agent Peeps
Posted by: LinkLegend0
So basically, its overpowered at the short range it has and underpowered at anywhere past the short range it has.
So it's doing what it's designed to do and you want it changed?


Yeah...thats what shotguns are like in real life.

  • 11.16.2009 7:44 AM PDT

all that is what makes the shotgun what it is

  • 11.16.2009 7:44 AM PDT

just get rid of the mauler and everything will be fine.

  • 11.16.2009 7:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: xXFinal JewelXx
Posted by: Agent Peeps
Posted by: LinkLegend0
So basically, its overpowered at the short range it has and underpowered at anywhere past the short range it has.
So it's doing what it's designed to do and you want it changed?


Yeah...thats what shotguns are like in real life.


In real life, shotguns can shred you to pieces from across the room, and are pretty accurate at medium range as well.

They're usually used by spec ops to blindfire in a room while youre safe in cover, so you can secure the room.

Plus we're already starting to use full-auto shotties IRL. It's a terrifying weapon.

Don't tell me 500 years in the future, they're all pump-action, manual reload slug per slug, and somehow people only use buckshot and not deerslug.

  • 11.16.2009 10:28 AM PDT

Posted by: Noccifer
Posted by: xXFinal JewelXx
Posted by: Agent Peeps
Posted by: LinkLegend0
So basically, its overpowered at the short range it has and underpowered at anywhere past the short range it has.
So it's doing what it's designed to do and you want it changed?


Yeah...thats what shotguns are like in real life.


In real life, shotguns can shred you to pieces from across the room, and are pretty accurate at medium range as well.

They're usually used by spec ops to blindfire in a room while youre safe in cover, so you can secure the room.

Plus we're already starting to use full-auto shotties IRL. It's a terrifying weapon.

Don't tell me 500 years in the future, they're all pump-action, manual reload slug per slug, and somehow people only use buckshot and not deerslug.


It's a game, a made up universe, the creators can make it how they want, heck they could make our enemies flying bunnies with toothaches if they wanted.

  • 11.16.2009 10:37 AM PDT

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lol

  • 11.16.2009 10:39 AM PDT
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Can you believe it?

The shotgun is fine the way it is. Don't fix what isn't broken. Remember how useless the Halo 2 Shotgun was?

[Edited on 11.16.2009 12:07 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2009 12:06 PM PDT

just make it a longer range mauler, thats slightly more powerful, but not a one shot kill. For example, it is as powerful as a mauler close range, and mid range, a bit more powerful, about as powerful as two br body shots

  • 11.16.2009 12:06 PM PDT

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