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Subject: Halo: Reach is going to suck.

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: TokiWartooth117
OP I refuse to read whatever the hell it is you posted until you learn some god damn english.

By the way, YOU'RE AN IDIOT. "your and idiot" makes absolutely no -blam!- sense.


I beat you to it.


I guess you did. My blind fury made me skip a few posts. Apparently he needed the double dose, as his other posts are all atrocities.

  • 11.17.2009 2:54 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Bean_88
Did I ask you to open this link? Or for you to post some snarky comment on a simple grammar error? isn't it a little hypocritical of you to say you aren't going to waste your time when you spent at least a minute or to typing your comment to attempt to insult me with your immense intelligence?

Idiot...


Insulting another member is against the rules, my dear lad.

Perhaps you not be so defensive, and stop trying to justify your grammatical errors? If you would have put any time into the thread at all, you would have proof read it.



So now your trying to justify yourself for insulting me, do i jump down your throat when you slip up or make a simple mistake? So how bout you go -blam!- yourself and go act like a english teacher to someone who wants to listen to you. Privet Caboose (which ironically in itself is a spelling error).

[Edited on 11.17.2009 2:58 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2009 2:55 PM PDT

Your "blind fury" so you get that angry over a simple spelling mistake that you seriously tried to just immediately point that out to sound smart and cool? someone has issues.

  • 11.17.2009 2:57 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

And Bean proves my point by yet again ignoring a decent argument... ugh.. Perahps putting TROLL!!11!11elventy would capture his attention?

[Edited on 11.17.2009 2:58 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2009 2:58 PM PDT

I apologize, what was your arguement.

  • 11.17.2009 2:58 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
"Team shoot the wraith!"
"What's a team shoot and what's a wraith?!"
"It means we all shoot at the big blue thing together!"
"Okay!"
*starts betraying blue teammate*

You make some good points, but they are terribly flawed.
Keep in mind that ODST was supposed to be an add-on, which was supposed to be 20 bucks, until microsucksballs came in and said "WE OWN HALO'S IP SO WE'LL PUT IN ANOTHER DISK WITH 3 EXTRA MAPS AND TRIPLE THE PRICES SO WE GET MORE PROFIT AND YOU LOSE FANS LIKE THE OP"
Halo 1 to Halo 2 = huge differences
Halo 2 to Halo 3 = incredible graphics, and a whole bunch of replay value.
Notice how much crap Bungie put in H3? Forge? Customs? Theater?
I will say that Bungie did mess up horribly with weapon balance, which I think CoD did fine, because instead of having a select few overshadowing weapons (headshot weapons, shotguns, rockets), CoD simply has a select few weapons that no one picks up because they all suck.
With almost any other weapon, you can get along fine. Thats probably the main thing about CoD that I think they did better than Halo.
Other than that though, really, Halo 3 is a huge advancement.
You're basing Reach too much off of ODST, which was originally an add-on until Microsucksballs screwed it up. ODST was a 6 month project, a copy and paste of H3 which two new guns and a few little advancements.
Reach is a brand new game, it's the last Halo, and really I think Bungie will do a great job.
My greatest fear is that they'll do what HAL did with Smash Bros, they horribly overshot Brawl and made it way too complicated and crap. One of the reasons I turned to Xbox and Halo. But, really have you seen the leaked pictures of Reach? If those are real, shi-dang that's awesome.
Don't worry, Bungie won't blam it up, if anything Microsucksballs will.
And that would suck. crap...

  • 11.17.2009 2:59 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: Bean_88
I apologize, what was your arguement.

While I understand your frustrations with people nitpicking, you have yet to reply to any of the decent counter arguments in this thread, Bean. If you are only going to flame the flamers, that is the mark of a troll. Browsing the forum for trouble.

  • 11.17.2009 2:59 PM PDT

You have no rights, play nice.

Well bean, we have to look at the facts.

1. The CoD franchise has been milked for a long time. Nothing changed from its WW2 setting until CoD 4:MW. Its like comparing Apples to Oranges. Can't really compare besides looks.

2. The project for Halo: Reach and Halo 3: ODST had different production cycles and teams. Halo: Reach has all of bungie studio working on Reach, developing a new engine and storyline. This probably continued until 08 when Halo 3:ODST was put into production.

3. Since Halo 3:ODST was meant for an expansion instead of a full fledged games, we were a bit dissapointed when it was released because of its lack of new features(Only firefight and the beta).

4. As previously states, Halo: Reach will have a new gameplay engine which has been in production for almost 3 years, not to mention its probably done due to alpha testing has been in effect and beta testing will probably begin soon.


Well, that's all I have.

[Edited on 11.17.2009 3:02 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2009 3:00 PM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Posted by: Bean_88
This is exactly what i anticapated, your all failing to come up with intelligient retorts (There are a few which i commend those who did me the justice of getting a decent debate going here). I AM NOT A COD FANBOY. I barely play it in contrast to how much i play Halo. I love Halo but I am not some blind supporter.

To the few who made a decent arguement with my original post, my response is that while Halo Reach may be worth the 60$ price tag i am simply getting bored with the series, they could add alot more to it and go the extra mile to make it a great game.

I personally want Reach to be the best installment but I honestly dont see it happening when the most recent Halo game is a dissapointment. This is of course an assumption and after having played the beta i may have a different opinion but with nothing to go by I feel it is at least slightly justified that i make those arguements due to the fact that ODST didnt deliver that signature Halo quality to the series.
I quite frankly have to agree with you. The way things are looking, well, I don't feel so confident in the upcoming game. But that is the point, none of us should be. We have really no information as of yet. It is a prequel, a FPS, it is made by Bungie. Those are the essential things we know, aside from those things we know a big team, and a 3 year work period.

I don't think using the word "suck" was a good idea, all you are going to get is a bunch of tools saying "You are a troll", etc. What I did like is you had reasons for your opinion, and you expressed that this was your opinion, and that your opinion can change.

I, to be honest, am getting bored with Halo 3. It was released 2-3 years ago, and it has held me over this long, will probably hold me over until Halo: Reach comes out. Which is sweet. Halo 3: ODST was a good game, I enjoyed the story, and I enjoyed firefight, but it just doesn't compare to a game with match-making multi-player.

We have seen major improvements from Halo Combat Evolved to Halo 2, from Halo 2 to Halo 3, and if we follow this pattern, we will see major improvements from Halo 3 to Halo: Reach.

If you just forget about Halo 3: ODST, and what a "dissapointment" that was, I'm sure you will lighten up a bit.

  • 11.17.2009 3:00 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
"Team shoot the wraith!"
"What's a team shoot and what's a wraith?!"
"It means we all shoot at the big blue thing together!"
"Okay!"
*starts betraying blue teammate*

Guys, if you're trolling, or being a grammar -blam!-, gtfo.
This guy is *as far as I know, unless he's an alt of awesomesauce cone* legitly trying to have a decent argument.
If you're trolling or grammar -blam!-ing, go away and leave this argument alone.

  • 11.17.2009 3:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Bean_88
My main complaint with Bungie producing another Halo game is that they are milking the franchise.

going to use Call of Duty as an example for my next argument

=Call of Duty Series=
Call of Duty
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Call of Duty: World at War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Call of Duty: United Offensive
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
Call of Duty: Roads to Victory
Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Mobilized

=Halo Series=
Halo: Combat Evolved
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 3: ODST
Halo Wars
Halo: Reach

What was that about milking?

  • 11.17.2009 3:01 PM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
While I understand your frustrations with people nitpicking, you have yet to reply to any of the decent counter arguments in this thread, Bean. If you are only going to flame the flamers, that is the mark of a troll. Browsing the forum for trouble.


Look i know thats what i may be coming across as but I am not, i am just trying to put my opinion out there and to have a goo debate over the quality of the upcoming game, and while it may be unfair to judge it based on my opinion of thier most recent game I think it is more than alittle justified that i do it. Because if ODST is an represantation of Reach then it would be a bad game.

  • 11.17.2009 3:01 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Six, ha more like twenty.

  • 11.17.2009 3:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Bean_88
Its astounding to me to see how many of you idiots will openly insult someone you havent even met over my opinion on a videogame.

What's astounding is that you thought that you would actually get a discussion from your original topic.

Hint: next time you want to make a disclaimer asking people not to flame you for your opinons, keep it in a civil tone and don't provoke them in any way.

  • 11.17.2009 3:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Odst171
Posted by: Bean_88
My main complaint with Bungie producing another Halo game is that they are milking the franchise.

going to use Call of Duty as an example for my next argument

=Call of Duty Series=
Call of Duty
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 3
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Call of Duty: World at War
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Call of Duty: United Offensive
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
Call of Duty: Roads to Victory
Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Mobilized

=Halo Series=
Halo: Combat Evolved
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 3: ODST
Halo Wars
Halo: Reach

What was that about milking?


This isnt a comparision to COD, beliveve me when i say i have many many issues with COD. Halo is just a hot topic in my opinion whilst COD is not and the fact that ODST didnt entirely entetain me like a Halo game should speaks volumes for the kind of quality Reach could be like due to them being on a year apart in release if Bungies Fall 2010 release doesnt change which i hope it does to give them more time to make this the best yet, also excuse my spelling mistakes as I am typing very quickly.

  • 11.17.2009 3:04 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
"Team shoot the wraith!"
"What's a team shoot and what's a wraith?!"
"It means we all shoot at the big blue thing together!"
"Okay!"
*starts betraying blue teammate*

OP, here's the deal.
You're thinking Halo Reach too much of ODST.
ODST was an add-on that got -blam!- up by Microsucksballs.
Reach is a brand new game, and really the only risks I can find is microsucksballs coming in, or Bungie overshooting their changes.
I wouldn't fret if I were you, it's BUngie.
its gon b k :)

  • 11.17.2009 3:04 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

Posted by: Physco Mandez
It's people like you who give the Halo community a bad name.

  • 11.17.2009 3:04 PM PDT

Posted by: BTE
So you are basing your whole argument in the fact that you did not like ODST. That's nice and all, but ODST took 1 year to make and was done as a side product.

Also note the fact that Reach has been in rigorous development since the launch of Halo 3.

  • 11.17.2009 3:05 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: Bean_88
Look i know thats what i may be coming across as but I am not, i am just trying to put my opinion out there and to have a goo debate over the quality of the upcoming game, and while it may be unfair to judge it based on my opinion of thier most recent game I think it is more than alittle justified that i do it. Because if ODST is an represantation of Reach then it would be a bad game.

ODST is not the representation of Reach. It the is the representation of Bungie going back to their roots with the Halo series in an effort to find out what exactly Halo: CE had that made it so great. Reach will be the culmination of both Halo 3 and ODST's lessons and hopefully carry a new experience along with the nostalgia of playing a Halo game.

Also, if you were as mature as your first post indicated you would more than likely understand that this forum is full of flamers who do nothing but. So flaming them as they flame you just adds fuel to the fire. Ignore them and respond to the intelligent posters in your thread.

  • 11.17.2009 3:05 PM PDT

You have no rights, play nice.

Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta
Posted by: Physco Mandez
It's people like you who give the Halo community a bad name.


And it's people like you that give the community an even worse name with flaming.

  • 11.17.2009 3:06 PM PDT

Okay.

  • 11.17.2009 3:08 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Reach, Like Halo 2 and 3, is having a 3 year development cycle. ODST was created in a single year, on a dated system from 2 years ago. Did you honestly expect a major improvement from an expansion?

Case and Point.

  • 11.17.2009 3:09 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
"Team shoot the wraith!"
"What's a team shoot and what's a wraith?!"
"It means we all shoot at the big blue thing together!"
"Okay!"
*starts betraying blue teammate*

Posted by: SamuraiTurtle
Okay.

yay!

  • 11.17.2009 3:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Bean_88
Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
While I understand your frustrations with people nitpicking, you have yet to reply to any of the decent counter arguments in this thread, Bean. If you are only going to flame the flamers, that is the mark of a troll. Browsing the forum for trouble.


Look i know thats what i may be coming across as but I am not, i am just trying to put my opinion out there and to have a goo debate over the quality of the upcoming game, and while it may be unfair to judge it based on my opinion of thier most recent game I think it is more than alittle justified that i do it. Because if ODST is an represantation of Reach then it would be a bad game.


No. Don't try to come out now and say "I'm the victim because all I'm trying to do is express my opinion in an intelligent debate" because your only purpose from the beginning was to flame. Even the title "Halo: Reach is going to suck" is already a flame. Secondly, I didn't read a single intelligent argument in your original post.

If you want any respect, you have to show some.

  • 11.17.2009 3:10 PM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Posted by: Bean_88
Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
While I understand your frustrations with people nitpicking, you have yet to reply to any of the decent counter arguments in this thread, Bean. If you are only going to flame the flamers, that is the mark of a troll. Browsing the forum for trouble.


Look i know thats what i may be coming across as but I am not, i am just trying to put my opinion out there and to have a goo debate over the quality of the upcoming game, and while it may be unfair to judge it based on my opinion of thier most recent game I think it is more than alittle justified that i do it. Because if ODST is an represantation of Reach then it would be a bad game.
Halo 3: ODST has a different format then all the other Halo games. (Excluding Halo Wars)

Halo 3:ODST is different because it has no multi-player matchmaking. Like there is no slayer, there is no head to head, player versus player action. Halo Combat evolved had multi-player. Halo 2 had match-making multi-player. Halo 3 had it also. All those games were amazing. As far as we know, Halo: Reach will have multi-player match making in it. (Otherwise, what is the beta for?)

I don't think you should judge Halo: Reach off of Halo 3: ODST, because Halo 3: ODST has been the only game in the Halo series (made by Bungie) that has had a different format.

If you are going to judge how Halo: Reach will be, judge it off of how Halo 3 was.

  • 11.17.2009 3:11 PM PDT