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Subject: Change, Reach, CHANGE!

Honor Light Your Way, Our Blood Shall Forge A Thousand Generations!.

And I can accept that. I like the universe too, I'm just not too fond of the games. I meant for this conversation to lean towards an intelligent and calm debate, on Halo's strengths and weaknesses. So enough fighting about which game is better.

What do you guys think Halo needs to be a better game?

  • 11.17.2009 8:21 PM PDT

ODST was pretty bad, or atleast not as good as it should have been
Lies. I loved ODST
I'm glad you guys think differently, really, but many others, and my self, can agree that the Halo franchise is losing it's appeal.
Yes, but, seeing as Halo 3 came about before both Modern Warfare and World at War and was still topping the Xbox Live charts until a game three generations later (modern warfare 2) came out proves that a very large majority disagree with you.

  • 11.17.2009 8:22 PM PDT

Honor Light Your Way, Our Blood Shall Forge A Thousand Generations!.

ENough about Modern Warfare.

What do you guys think Halo is missing, and what do you hope for in Reach?

  • 11.17.2009 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Radishhhh
4 europeans, an american and a japanese person in a game


I was totally expecting a joke out of that.

I've played MW2 at a friend's house. I thought it sucked, thus your points are irrelevant.

  • 11.17.2009 8:24 PM PDT

well i agree, but it should be a different thing, halo odst was like an expansion, but the price was... well like a normal one

  • 11.17.2009 8:24 PM PDT
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im one second from taking this to the next level.

Posted by: LIL Smurf DOGG
Yeah, I agree. I was getting too into it. Still way better than ODST though.

Look, I appreciate you guys are Halo fans, but seriously. Can we be logical, here?

ODST was pretty bad, or atleast not as good as it should have been. I didn't mean to turn this into a "Modern Warfare pwns Halo" thing. It's just that my personal opinion is that Halo games are bad.

I'm glad you guys think differently, really, but many others, and my self, can agree that the Halo franchise is losing it's appeal.
In some ways, you're absolutely right. But you have to understand, Bungie has to be very delicate in what they change and how they change it. The Halo franchise holds a level of popularity that only a few game series have ever achieved. This is one of the reasons that Halo 3 was basically a fancy expansion of Halo 2.

If they change too much, they alienate fans. If they do too little, they become stagnant. ODST was not Bungie's fault, btw. At least not entirely. It was originally going to be JUST ODST and Firefight + the beta invite on a 30$ disc. It was Microsoft's idea to repackage the entire multiplayer along with making the maps exclusive so they could reset the price to 60$.

If you didn't like it, that's one thing. But ODST was never meant to be the next game, it was just a side story Bungie made out of their love for the fans and the series. Reach is the true next title, and it WILL be better. Bungie has now had years to cull the feedback over the course of all the games and really deliver what everyone wants. This game will be Bungie's crown jewel, mark my words.

  • 11.17.2009 8:25 PM PDT

Honor Light Your Way, Our Blood Shall Forge A Thousand Generations!.

ENOUGH about Modern Warfare, you ignorant bastards.

I want to discuss REACH.

  • 11.17.2009 8:26 PM PDT

Enough with the messages,
I don't want to join your stupid groups.

Posted by: LIL Smurf DOGG
ENOUGH about Modern Warfare, you ignorant bastards.

I want to discuss REACH.


And we come to the end of the shrubbery maze.
Since you lost the arguments, you try to shift the subject over, to something that was but a side note of the original post.

  • 11.17.2009 8:30 PM PDT
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Enough with the messages,
I don't want to join your stupid groups.

Posted by: LIL Smurf DOGG
Just lock this damn thread.

Now.


Literally, laughing my ass off.

  • 11.17.2009 8:32 PM PDT

Honor Light Your Way, Our Blood Shall Forge A Thousand Generations!.

That was kind of my intention. O_o

  • 11.17.2009 8:34 PM PDT
Subject: Change, Reach, CHANGE!

Its a trap!!!

Ok here goes

Halo CE had the best campaign of all time. Didnt like the health packs and fall damage but its awesomeness more then made up for that

Halo 2 had the worst campaign. Multiplayer was great until cheating became heavy

Halo 3 solid campaign wasn't as good as CE but the Scarab battles were nice. Could of been a little better sure but it was a step up from halo 2. Most balanced multiplayer so far

Halo ODST: I think its funny that people think since infinity ward releases a game in 2009 and that it beats halo 3 (2007) even worse uses ODST for a comparison (it didnt beat Halo 3 multiplayer still)

Bungie only worked on this game for 1 year with a small rag tag team of employees and only utilized a small fraction of their staff

This game was decent. A very good campaign although i didnt care for the Rookie as a character. It was fun to play the open city and then play linear flashbacks.

Fire fight is great but no seach to bring random players in makes it feel like a chore to start the game

This is a fun appetizer until we play reach. This by no means was meant to be a full game. Although 60 dollars was a bit much. But thats more of microsofts fault

So bungie still wanted to release this game but wanted to give us at least something close for the 60 bucks. So we got a disc that loads all the multimaps plus a new release of 3 maps. Give us a chance to get the long saught after Recon Armor

And then there is Reach Beta. I am glad i get it on ODST and not to make me buy some game i never heard of or desire like Crackdown

I hear it soo much these flamer and or ignorant people repeat over and over again that Infinity ward has won.

The campaign wasnt so great. The only time that it was ok was when I was in a vehicle and they didnt even control properly (or should I mean in a fun way). The button pressing scene at then end was nice but definetly didnt beat anything halo has offered me

The game has a cheesy control scheme. Oh i hit left trigger and I can automatically aim at anyone as long as there within my general view.

I can definetly see that the game does cater to n00bs. There are n00bs on halo but there are also ok, decent, good, really good, and pro

Such a wide skill gap. Because the game truly takes skill to completly master. COD is more of who ever can camp and who ever sees the other person first. At least in halo if someone has bad aim i can turn around after being shot in the back and can use my skill to put perfect shots into my opponent

But yeah give the guy who has camped the best or was the luckiest and ability to completly cheese everybody by calling airstrikes, c130s, predator drones.

Granted not everyone sucks at COD but the gap in skill just isnt there

  • 11.17.2009 8:42 PM PDT

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