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Subject: Brute Sniper Equivalent

Posted by: cyclopsdias
what about a brute sniper that shoots a huge spike which is slightly faster than a rocket and offers an instant kill??
the Impaler will have 5 shots and will need to reload after each shot.how abou it?


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You read my mind. I had actually thought about this 1 or 2 weeks ago. It seemed so in place for brutes.

  • 11.19.2009 10:35 AM PDT

Posted by: Bullets Kill
So you want a long-range grenade launcher? I think we have a brute shot for a reason...


Not even close.

Does a brute shot stick enemies? No
Does a brute shot have a scope? No
Does a brute shot have long range accuracy? No
Does a brute shot fire in a direct line over long distances? No
Does a brute shot shoot bullets? No
Does a brute shot stick to enemies then explode after a brief pause? No
Does the brute shot have a slow reload time? No
Does the brute shot have a small magazine clip? No
Does the brute shot shoot projectiles at the same speed as a sniper rifle? No


You literally could not be more wrong. Sorry dude.


And to all the people saying this wouldnt work because "it isnt something a brute would use" then, like I said, call it something else. Changing the name is very easy. The projectile needs to be small and only dangerous if you "stick" your opponent. Thats the whole purpose/fun of the weapon..





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  • 11.19.2009 11:16 AM PDT
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I already said i liked the idea but i'd like to note that Brutes are unlikely to use snipers... or at least desing one for themselves. Some Brutes do use Beam Rifles in Halo 3, but those are usually low ranking fellows, and may have been ordered to use them or the snipers were the only weapons left (Brutes fight over their equipment, as said in one official source... now if i'd remember it :/)

Brute weapons are usually, well, brutal. Spiker shoots almost molten spikes (they wouldn't stick to walls or be deflected from them if they were molten, i'd say only their surface is very hot) that both burn and impale the victim... and likely cauterize the wounds. Essentially the victim's impaled, roasted and alive but incapacitated... And i think Brutes like to eat their victims. Most importantly, Spikers have short range, Brutes like it up-close-and-personal approach to battle it seems. So a sniper would be as far from such as possible. Not to mention that Brutes, while cunning and intelligent, likely lack the patience required by a sniper.

A bladed sniper rifle thing that shoots exploding spikes would be a fitting weapon for Brutes, if it wasn't a sniper. Invidually, Brute Shot and Spiker already fill both the exploding part and the spike part.

EDIT, it feels funny you know, that i have a Brute avatar while talking about this weapon idea... And funnily, i very much like up close approach with Spiker in Halo 3. And i lack patience to be a really good sniper.

[Edited on 11.19.2009 11:39 AM PST]

  • 11.19.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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Sounds a bit silly.

  • 11.19.2009 11:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Trap51b
I already said i liked the idea but i'd like to note that Brutes are unlikely to use snipers... or at least desing one for themselves. Some Brutes do use Beam Rifles in Halo 3, but those are usually low ranking fellows, and may have been ordered to use them or the snipers were the only weapons left (Brutes fight over their equipment, as said in one official source... now if i'd remember it :/)

Brute weapons are usually, well, brutal. Spiker shoots almost molten spikes (they wouldn't stick to walls or be deflected from them if they were molten, i'd say only their surface is very hot) that both burn and impale the victim... and likely cauterize the wounds. Essentially the victim's impaled, roasted and alive but incapacitated... And i think Brutes like to eat their victims. Most importantly, Spikers have short range, Brutes like it up-close-and-personal approach to battle it seems. So a sniper would be as far from such as possible. Not to mention that Brutes, while cunning and intelligent, likely lack the patience required by a sniper.

A bladed sniper rifle thing that shoots exploding spikes would be a fitting weapon for Brutes, if it wasn't a sniper. Invidually, Brute Shot and Spiker already fill both the exploding part and the spike part.

EDIT, it feels funny you know, that i have a Brute avatar while talking about this weapon idea... And funnily, i very much like up close approach with Spiker in Halo 3. And i lack patience to be a really good sniper.


Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.

  • 11.19.2009 11:47 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Homeboyd903

Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.


We already have the Beam Rifle, and the Sniper. What would the point be in one side having two snipers.

This entire idea is pretty pointless.

  • 11.19.2009 11:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Homeboyd903
I dont know Halo Canon really at all so if a "brute" weapon being in Reach doesnt fit.. ok then call it something else.

The idea is whats important here.

This "brute" equivalent sniper rifle would be loads of fun everytime you use it. I really think youll enjoy it..

Imagine a sniper rifle that shoots "sticky" projectiles (use spike grenades as a reference if you want). It would be as accurate as the Human and Elite sniper rifles but would shoot "sticky" bullets that explode on impact. You have someone in your sights, pull the trigger, the projectile fires.. if the target is hit, the round will explode after a brief pause. Even if the target misses.. it will stick in any wall/vehicle/ground/rock feature it lands on and then explode.

This weapon would seriously be the most enjoyable in all of matchmaking. Trying to stick players and vehicles with a longe range rifle. Balance would be required, but could easily be fixed with ammo shortages and reload time.

Im not suggesting an "arc-like" shot.. but a direct sniper shot which travels at the same speed.

Halo usually goes for fun more than a competetive feel when creating games. This would really fit the bill.

Comments?

Brutes don't snipe. They make Jackals do it.

Heck they shouldn't even be carrying Carbines.

  • 11.19.2009 12:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Homeboyd903
I dont know Halo Canon really at all so if a "brute" weapon being in Reach doesnt fit.. ok then call it something else.

The idea is whats important here.

This "brute" equivalent sniper rifle would be loads of fun everytime you use it. I really think youll enjoy it..

Imagine a sniper rifle that shoots "sticky" projectiles (use spike grenades as a reference if you want). It would be as accurate as the Human and Elite sniper rifles but would shoot "sticky" bullets that explode on impact. You have someone in your sights, pull the trigger, the projectile fires.. if the target is hit, the round will explode after a brief pause. Even if the target misses.. it will stick in any wall/vehicle/ground/rock feature it lands on and then explode.

This weapon would seriously be the most enjoyable in all of matchmaking. Trying to stick players and vehicles with a longe range rifle. Balance would be required, but could easily be fixed with ammo shortages and reload time.

Im not suggesting an "arc-like" shot.. but a direct sniper shot which travels at the same speed.

Halo usually goes for fun more than a competetive feel when creating games. This would really fit the bill.

Comments?

Brutes don't snipe. They make Jackals do it.

Heck they shouldn't even be carrying Carbines.


For the fourth time now.. it doesnt have to be a brute rifle. THE NAME ISNT IMPORTANT.

  • 11.19.2009 12:07 PM PDT

why not give brutes a midrange rifle or pistol that shoots hollow points. not too slow recoil, good dmg, and small clip size.

  • 11.19.2009 12:07 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Homeboyd903

Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.


We already have the Beam Rifle, and the Sniper. What would the point be in one side having two snipers.

This entire idea is pretty pointless.


Yeah Humans having more than one sniper is completely pointless! Like in our military for instance.. only one sniper rifle is allowed.. anything more than 1 is absurd.

Your posts are pretty pointless.

  • 11.19.2009 12:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Homeboyd903

Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.


We already have the Beam Rifle, and the Sniper. What would the point be in one side having two snipers.

This entire idea is pretty pointless.


Yeah Humans having more than one sniper is completely pointless! Like in our military for instance.. only one sniper rifle is allowed.. anything more than 1 is absurd.

Your posts are pretty pointless.

This is Halo. Not Real Life. It's also not a realistic FPS.

Posted by: Homeboyd903
For the fourth time now.. it doesnt have to be a brute rifle. THE NAME ISNT IMPORTANT.

Then I need to elaborate slightly. Brutes are not the type of enemies to engage and snipe an enemy from afar. They are the type to charge and smash. Giving them a medium to long range based weapon unique to them doesn't play to their design as a enemy at all.

As much as I would love to rip the Torque Bow from GoW, slightly remod it and give it to Brutes it just doesn't play to their architype.

[Edited on 11.19.2009 12:15 PM PST]

  • 11.19.2009 12:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Homeboyd903

Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.


We already have the Beam Rifle, and the Sniper. What would the point be in one side having two snipers.

This entire idea is pretty pointless.


Yeah Humans having more than one sniper is completely pointless! Like in our military for instance.. only one sniper rifle is allowed.. anything more than 1 is absurd.

Your posts are pretty pointless.

This is Halo. Not Real Life. It's also not a realistic FPS.


Which only further proves my point. ITS A GAME. Having more than one sniper rifle for a side in a war is inconceivable IN A VIDEO GAME?

You two trolls.. keep moving please.

  • 11.19.2009 12:16 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Mettew is completely right. But like all of your threads, I assume that by the time this thread closes, you will have resorted to insults, and saying, "read the OP" 500 times.

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Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Homeboyd903

Like I said.. doesnt have to be a brute weapon. Could be a covenant sniper. Or human.. doesnt matter. That wouldve saved all that writing if youd read that part. The name isnt important.


We already have the Beam Rifle, and the Sniper. What would the point be in one side having two snipers.

This entire idea is pretty pointless.


Yeah Humans having more than one sniper is completely pointless! Like in our military for instance.. only one sniper rifle is allowed.. anything more than 1 is absurd.

Your posts are pretty pointless.

This is Halo. Not Real Life. It's also not a realistic FPS.


Which only further proves my point. ITS A GAME. Having more than one sniper rifle for a side in a war is inconceivable IN A VIDEO GAME?

You two trolls.. keep moving please.


you dont handle criticism very well sir/madam... :\

  • 11.19.2009 12:19 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Mettew is completely right. But like all of your threads, I assume that by the time this thread closes, you will have resorted to insults, and saying, "read the OP" 500 times.


Troll. Keep it up.. youve already been reported.

  • 11.19.2009 12:19 PM PDT

This is a very original idea I agree with you a Sticky Sniper would be really fun to use and it would most definitely be a Matchmaking favorite. I would like you to post a concept design of what this Sticky Sniper would look like, if you can of course.

  • 11.19.2009 12:23 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: privet caboose
Mettew is completely right. But like all of your threads, I assume that by the time this thread closes, you will have resorted to insults, and saying, "read the OP" 500 times.


Troll. Keep it up.. youve already been reported.


How is he trolling? Obviously you don't know the meaning of troll, because it seems to me that your definition is "people who disagree with me, so I'll mindlessly spam the report button."

  • 11.19.2009 12:23 PM PDT

Posted by: mazterturdz0
you dont handle criticism very well sir/madam... :\


Saying an idea is pointless because you dont like it isnt criticism sir/madam.. its trolling.

  • 11.19.2009 12:23 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Posted by: privet caboose
Mettew is completely right. But like all of your threads, I assume that by the time this thread closes, you will have resorted to insults, and saying, "read the OP" 500 times.


Troll. Keep it up.. youve already been reported.


How is he trolling? Obviously you don't know the meaning of troll, because it seems to me that your definition is "people who disagree with me, so I'll mindlessly spam the report button."


Off-topic post. Reported. (not with the report button either)

Back on topic.. I dont think I can generate a concept design as Im in no way close to anything that could be considered even a rookie at paintshop. Much less any sort of designer program. Feel free to give it a go however if you wish.

  • 11.19.2009 12:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Irr3l3vant
It's on a lot of community maps. Affinity, Think Twice, Abridged...

Posted by: dfisch5
I meant good maps

I only like the explosion idea if it hits a vehicle or gets a headshot. A 1 hit kill body shot long range weapon sounds a bit overpowered. I think it's better if the detonation of the bullet doesn't occur when it hits the body.

  • 11.19.2009 12:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Homeboyd903
Which only further proves my point. ITS A GAME. Having more than one sniper rifle for a side in a war is inconceivable IN A VIDEO GAME?

You two trolls.. keep moving please.

I'mma trollin... for fish.

You need a reason to have more than one weapon otherwise the weapons get redundant and pointless. Why have a thousand weapons if most of them are almost reskins?

Look at the Sniper Rifle and Beam Rifle. Each has benefits and cons. SR has greater ammo capacity. BR doesn't need to reload and can double tap faster at the consequence of being unscoped.

Rockets and SpLaser. Both anti-vehicle weapons. But without tracking Rockets are short range weapons. SpLaser gives you what you don't have in the Rockets in long range and conceivably doesn't give you what the Rockets have: Short range power.

Some of the Brute weapons seem to be struggling to find a reason to be. Spiker tracks like the Plasma Rifle but has better rounded damage than the SMG and Plasma Rifle. Not very unique. Mauler is just a weaker Shotgun. Adding to that pile of identity crisis is just the wrong thing to do.

Lastly: Reporting people who are disagree with you? That's funny. Also sad. But funny too.

[Edited on 11.19.2009 12:35 PM PST]

  • 11.19.2009 12:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Axcleblade
I only like the explosion idea if it hits a vehicle or gets a headshot. A 1 hit kill body shot long range weapon sounds a bit overpowered. I think it's better if the detonation of the bullet doesn't occur when it hits the body.


Then it would just be a normal sniper rifle. Balances would have to happen here.. maybe a moving scope (as if breathing), or smaler ammo clips, or less accurate aiming sights.. something. But removing the explosive part of the ammo would take away from the whole idea.

  • 11.19.2009 12:34 PM PDT
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I don't think this is a good idea, plainly because another sniper rifle just isn't needed.

I remember an interview with a Bungie employee where he said that they needed to remove a weapon in case they wanted to bring a new weapon into the games.
Homeboyd, which weapon would you like to see removed?

  • 11.19.2009 12:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Homeboyd903
Which only further proves my point. ITS A GAME. Having more than one sniper rifle for a side in a war is inconceivable IN A VIDEO GAME?

You two trolls.. keep moving please.

I'mma trollin... for fish.

You need a reason to have more than one weapon otherwise the weapons get redundant and pointless. Why have a thousand weapons if most of them are almost reskins?

Look at the Sniper Rifle and Beam Rifle. Each has benefits and cons. SR has greater ammo capacity. BR doesn't need to reload and can double tap faster at the consequence of being unscoped.

Rockets and SpLaser. Both anti-vehicle weapons. But without tracking Rockets are short range weapons. SpLaser gives you what you don't have in the Rockets in long range and conceivably doesn't give you what the Rockets have: Short range power.

Some of the Brute weapons seem to be struggling to find a reason to be. Spiker needs to track like the Plasma Rifle but has better rounded damage than the SMG and Plasma Rifle. Not very unique. Mauler is just a weaker Shotgun. Adding to that pile is just the wrong thing to do.

Lastly: Reporting people who are disagree with you? That's funny. Also sad. But funny too.


Ahh I see you decided to have a discussion.. good for you.

This sniper rifle is nothing at all like any other in the game. So how is it redundant? How is it a basic reskin? This is a new idea that hasnt been explored whatsoever. Just because its another Human weapon or Covenant weapon doesnt at all make it redundant.

  • 11.19.2009 12:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Gochda
I don't think this is a good idea, plainly because another sniper rifle just isn't needed.

I remember an interview with a Bungie employee where he said that they needed to remove a weapon in case they wanted to bring a new weapon into the games.
Homeboyd, which weapon would you like to see removed?


Well they are obviously bringing new weapons into the game.. they brought more in from Halo 2 and got rid of... what? Theres a lot more weapons now. They dont have to get rid of anything to bring in new weapons.. I dont think thats an accurate statement at all.

  • 11.19.2009 12:37 PM PDT