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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

They should just lower its damage a bit.

  • 11.19.2009 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: BTE
They should just lower its damage a bit.


Yeah but then the carbine would wipe the floor with it. Then it will become a weapon that people would feel is somewhat useless


I rather see the Automag become the weak weapon that is only good for headshotting. Now that is a secondary I wouldnt mind

But the 4 shot M6G with a scope is still what I think is needed

lol I talk about it too much in threads but I want it soo bad

  • 11.19.2009 5:19 PM PDT

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i agree! but maybe have something that can spray like a br...

  • 11.19.2009 5:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Klumpmeister
i agree! but maybe have something that can spray like a br...


No i was really thinking of both. Keep the BR as is and add the pistol. Plus beating someone with who has a BR with a pistol would be very satisfying

  • 11.19.2009 5:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: ToxicMarshmalow
The BR is an overated weapon that MLG fanboys use and it ruins the game the most I want a game thats halo CE not HAlO 3 or Halo 2 and the people who yell at me for not liking the BR you sir are unofficalplayer of halo. people who like the AR date back to the good old days with Ratrace, bloodgulch, sidewinder and if you dont know these maps.Also people who started from halo 3 and halo 2 get of halo get of the forums seriously.

Bungie please remove all weapons from the map except for the AR!!! That way toxicmarshmalow will be happy.
seriously though do you know what you are talking about? The br is just a replacement for the magnum, should we remove that too or is it too difficult for you to use. How about instead of insulting different halo communities, try and get good at the game (and i dont want to hear the excuse i am good i just refuse to use the br because halo wasnt meant to be played like that or something of that nature)

  • 11.19.2009 5:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
how you gonna kill snipers then? with your AR maybe? at long range?


face it, this weapon fits an IMPORTANT role in the series.
if they remove it, they might as well remove the sniper rifles and shotguns and only keep the AR because "omg lol halo ce roxxx!!!!11!!1 original wapon ftw".


A sniper rifle could take out another sniper rifle, and a rocket, and a grenade, and a fuel rod, and a beam rifle. And more.

  • 11.19.2009 5:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Madara Umezawa
Yeah but then the carbine would wipe the floor with it. Then it will become a weapon that people would feel is somewhat useless

Not really. The Carbine is slightly better than the BR its only problem is that if you miss the shot, you are screwed as for the BR, if you miss you still can do 2/3 of the damage. People don't like the Carbine just because of that.

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Posted by: CarbineNeedler
And HR has a br, that kills in 4 shots, so there's nothing you can do.

Prove it.

I think that the BR should be weakened to a 5 shot rifle and it's presence in Matchmaking should be reduced. I'm fine with it being the occasional starting weapon but I do not think that nearly every map should have 6.

I think that at most there should be 4 BRs on a map, or at least equal to the next most abundant gun. To make up for this you should start with an upgraded version of the pistol, much like the Halo: CE one that was a 6 shot kill. This way every gun has it's use and no gun becomes dominant over all of the others.

I forgot to mention that the Carbine should be reduced proportionately to the BR.

[Edited on 11.19.2009 5:57 PM PST]

  • 11.19.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Madara Umezawa
Yeah but then the carbine would wipe the floor with it. Then it will become a weapon that people would feel is somewhat useless

Not really. The Carbine is slightly better than the BR its only problem is that if you miss the shot, you are screwed as for the BR, if you miss you still can do 2/3 of the damage. People don't like the Carbine just because of that.


No its just kills a little faster then the BR provided some things... but it is not better there is a displacement in the shots. If you keep still and fire the carbine you won't fire in the exact same spot twice.

Its not only that you miss the weapon has a flaw in its shots..if it didn't I would use it over the BR every chance i get sice it fires a bit like the M6D. It has the potential to deliver more damage quicker but its only better in that one aspect

reliability is the theme that makes a weapon like a BR preferable to the carbine

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  • 11.19.2009 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Xharpan
it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: Madara Umezawa


No its just kills a little faster then the BR provided some things... but it is not better there is a displacement in the shots. If you keep still and fire the carbine you won't fire in the exact same spot twice.

Its not only that you miss the weapon has a flaw in its shots..if it didn't I would use it over the BR every chance i get sice it fires a bit like the M6D. It has the potential to deliver more damage quicker but its only better in that one aspect

reliability is the theme that makes a weapon like a BR preferable to the carbine
Guess they could fix that and make it really accurate as for the BR itself, if they reduce slightly the damage and increase the spread so that it is not as accurate they could balance it out.

  • 11.19.2009 6:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Madara Umezawa


No its just kills a little faster then the BR provided some things... but it is not better there is a displacement in the shots. If you keep still and fire the carbine you won't fire in the exact same spot twice.

Its not only that you miss the weapon has a flaw in its shots..if it didn't I would use it over the BR every chance i get sice it fires a bit like the M6D. It has the potential to deliver more damage quicker but its only better in that one aspect

reliability is the theme that makes a weapon like a BR preferable to the carbine
Guess they could fix that and make it really accurate as for the BR itself, if they reduce slightly the damage and increase the spread so that it is not as accurate they could balance it out.


This is all assuming there will be BR in reach and that the weapons will function that as they did in Halo 3. the BR just may be semi auto or even full auto like in the Land fall video. the BR could be replaced with the MA2B for cannon reasons and the MA5B with the MA5K.

  • 11.19.2009 6:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
how you gonna kill snipers then? with your AR maybe? at long range?


face it, this weapon fits an IMPORTANT role in the series.
if they remove it, they might as well remove the sniper rifles and shotguns and only keep the AR because "omg lol halo ce roxxx!!!!11!!1 original wapon ftw".


A sniper rifle could take out another sniper rifle, and a rocket, and a grenade, and a fuel rod, and a beam rifle. And more.


So they should always have more then one of the same weapon on every map??

No thats not the answer

Fuel Rods arent in MM and are slower moving making them easy to dodge at further distances
grenades can get you sniped if you pop out to throw them without knocking the sniper off its scope
unless your playing team snipers which is pointless to your thread then bungie doesnt put both beam rifle and sniper rifle on the same map.

The answer for power weapons shouldn't always be power weapons. The BR gives a player a chance. It does a lot less damage then the sniper but given shots can still kill someone quick enough.

Weapons should have counters besides weapons that are the same to create a rock paper sicsors enviroment. Laser Kills vehicle and infantry, sniper kills laser 90 percent of t time but sucks vs a vehicle as a drawback

AR loses to SMG in CQC but kills it at further ranges due to lack of accuracy to the bullet spread.

The best answer to balance a weapon like the sniper is to constantly have the ability to unscope that person. VS a good sniper it really makes a huge difference. Games were idiots on the other team did ever feel that they should pick up a good weapon to keep me in checked got destroyed by my sniper

I mean i had nothing to really fear since the bullets from their ARs barely grazed me.

A weapon like the BR actually has to make me try to earn my shots when sniping

  • 11.19.2009 6:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Czar_CJ_Elm
Posted by: BTE
Posted by: Madara Umezawa


No its just kills a little faster then the BR provided some things... but it is not better there is a displacement in the shots. If you keep still and fire the carbine you won't fire in the exact same spot twice.

Its not only that you miss the weapon has a flaw in its shots..if it didn't I would use it over the BR every chance i get sice it fires a bit like the M6D. It has the potential to deliver more damage quicker but its only better in that one aspect

reliability is the theme that makes a weapon like a BR preferable to the carbine
Guess they could fix that and make it really accurate as for the BR itself, if they reduce slightly the damage and increase the spread so that it is not as accurate they could balance it out.


This is all assuming there will be BR in reach and that the weapons will function that as they did in Halo 3. the BR just may be semi auto or even full auto like in the Land fall video. the BR could be replaced with the MA2B for cannon reasons and the MA5B with the MA5K.


I doubt that it would be replaced. Too much of the community likes the weapon. I think it would come back in some form.

As either an earlier model prototype. Or as the current BR but the explanation would be that it is not in mass production yet outside planet Reach

I bet you bungie is testing multiple ways they could make the BR in this game. I expect a tweak to the way the bullets fire and maybe a slightly different skin but not a nerfed version

  • 11.19.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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If there is a BR, please don't make it a burst fire, or an all purpoes weapon. Please.

  • 11.19.2009 6:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Madara Umezawa
I doubt that it would be replaced. Too much of the community likes the weapon. I think it would come back in some form.

As either an earlier model prototype. Or as the current BR but the explanation would be that it is not in mass production yet outside planet Reach

I bet you bungie is testing multiple ways they could make the BR in this game. I expect a tweak to the way the bullets fire and maybe a slightly different skin but not a nerfed version


Like I said it could be the MA2B which fires a larger .390 round. I'm just saying the stats, functions, and skins will probably be altered is someway.

  • 11.19.2009 6:32 PM PDT

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I think the BR is a bit overpowered. i don't think it should be a 'jack of all trades' weapon. yeah, 4 shotting takes skill, but almost anyone can 5 shot. i think the BR should be modified to be weaker at close range, or maybe harder to aim, like the sniper. that way it would still be usuable, but would take more skill, and is more of a long mid range weapon.

Maybe introduce another 3 round burst weapon that has a slower rate of fire (longer time between bursts) and have that be more of a mid-short range weapon. or give the MA5B the burst function of the books.

The fact that nearly everyone's tool of destruction is a BR means the BR is over used and overplaced on maps. for instance: why use a brute spiker or a carbine when theres a BR? simple. the BR would wipe the floor with them.

realisticly, Id think radioactive rounds or huge 8 inch red hot spikes coming into your armour would kill quite a bit quicker than 7.62mm rounds.

here's another idea: put in the automag (or a pistol like it, not a spec ops odst gun) and as I said before, increase brs range, but make it harder to use at close range. that way you have two weapons that could headshot

theoretically, autmag could be like a beatdown then headshot for close range, or used to cover yourself because its damage to shields isnt much. then you switch to BR and do anti sniping duty. i think it could work, but not with the current BR.

  • 11.19.2009 6:36 PM PDT

the BR is sweet but i hear it's even cooler in reach

  • 11.19.2009 6:39 PM PDT
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According to the book, Contact Harvest, the BR was around before, during, and after the events at Reach. Therefor, it should most likely be in the game, if bungie wants to stick with the halo canon. I agree with people who say it should be like the automag, and i agree with the people that say he doesn't like the BR cause he sucks with it. haha. I hope the BR is in Reach, in some form.

  • 11.19.2009 6:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: kil1ertomatog
If there is a BR, please don't make it a burst fire, or an all purpoes weapon. Please.


Dude, it is burst fire whether you like it or not.

  • 11.19.2009 6:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: K K CASEY
The fact that nearly everyone's tool of destruction is a BR means the BR is over used and overplaced on maps. for instance: why use a brute spiker or a carbine when theres a BR? simple. the BR would wipe the floor with them.
BR.


I still honestly think that its lack of midrange weapons in halo

In lonewolves I see AR mostly as the tool of destruction especially on gaurdian. AR 13 kills... Beatdown 12 kills (mostly from AR melee)

A lot of the community doesnt know when to use the right weapon. An AR, PR, SMG, Spiker beats BR in CQC.

But at the range BR shines it does extremley well but no other weapons of that range stand up too it.

I dont think we should weaken and make everything more viable at close range i think we should add more midrange. I bet you if my pistol, plus some other new weapons entered the mid range frey

if midrange had diversity no one would have room to complain. They could no longer pin their inadequacies on one weapon. Then there would be no excuse knowing which weapons worked where since we would have 2 groups for different purposes. Instead of 2 good midranged weapons and a large amount of CQC which is in halo right not

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thats a pretty mean comment if you tell people to leave the forums, cuz already thousands of people qualify for those conditions, like you cant just kick them all out for that certain reason, and your post isnt really even supposed to be in the reach category, since your just saying how bad the br is, like you know, you're just acting like an -blam!- over a weapon in halo 3, then go all emotional, and drag things off the idea

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  • 11.19.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
thats a pretty mean comment if you tell people to leave the forums, cuz already thousands of people qualify for those conditions, like you cant just kick them all out for that certain reason, and your post isnt really even supposed to be in the reach category, since your just saying how bad the br is


Its a n00bs cry for help and he doesnt really understand much about halo CE either based on his comments.

Sersiously CE had a stronger AR but the game was all about the M6D which dwarfed even a powerful weapon like the MA5B

  • 11.19.2009 6:48 PM PDT

another anti BR thread lol
have you anti BR people been hiding under a rock
its in Reach
12 rounds single shot

  • 11.20.2009 12:21 AM PDT