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Subject: How To Make Halo: Reach The First Halo 10* Game
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I have been reading and watching many review trying to find out why people gave the Halo games what they did and not giving them a 10* rating. If they did give a Halo game a 10* rating then I didn't read it, as I wanted to see areas that Halo: Reach could improve not how it should stay the same.

This is the list I managed to come up with. Feel free to add the parts that you thought should have been included in other Halo games.



THE LIST

- More wide open levels
- Longer campaign
- Better story
- Less flood
- More weapons
- Better graphics
- Even better music
- More diverse levels
- Better firefight
- More atmospherics
- Better boss battle
- Better weapon sounds
- More customisation
- More Battle Rifle
- Less Battle Rifle
- More Elites
- Less Brutes
- More 3 way battles
- Two different campaigns

The list will grow as I read more reviews or people submit things that was missing from past Halo games.



Now, how can Bungie improve the past Halo games? By answering all that list.

More wide open levels should be included. Halo 3 had some but they wern't as good as some Halo CE levels. The campaign should be 20 hours, and should be hard. If playing on Legendary you should get stuck and have to re-play levles just to get past them. Reach in itself is a better story than most Halo games had. Unless Bungie chose to come up with a new story with the flood in, then this game is without. Every weapon that you see enamys use, you should be able to use. Be that jackel sheilds or hunter's fule rod. Elites should be able to use two swords, just to make it more epic and cool.

Bungie are making a new engine for Reach so hopefully it will push the 360 to the limits. Halo 2's music was better than Halo 3's, use a varient of Halo 2's and a bit of Halo 3's and you will have a win. Halo 2 had some of the most diverse and different levels I will ever play. From doing battle in the low gravety area out side of the ship, to taking the fight to earth, to moving along in the small ship thing that takes you to the place where Regret is. Firefight will get an upgrade, that is almost sure, give it flood and sentinal waves and all will be great. Halo: Reach needs rain. Rain so heavy that you can hardly see. Snow and sand storms wold also be welcome and would add to the epicness of the game.

Halo 2's boss battle was great, Halo 3's wasn't. I wanted to kill Tartarus, killing Guilty Spark was just a chore. The weapons need to sound powerfull, I want to hear them ripping through the air, not the AR sound in Halo 3. Give elites armour perms, perhaps make Brutes, Hunters or even grunts playable in custom games. The BR caused all kinds of problems, some loved it and the rest hated it. Bungie need to make something that MLG can enjoy with out it ruining the game for every one else. If we dont fight Elties on Reach then this game will suck. Dont think it is that unlikely, in ODST there should have been no Brutes and tones of Elites, yet it was the other way around. Dont make the same mistake twice Bungie. I dont think any one mindes fighting Brutes, as long as it is only once or twice. Maby make it like the flood on other Halo games. This could be used to make epic 3 way battles between angry Brutes, Elites and us, bringing back the best of Halo 2.

Every one wantes two campaigns, I personaly either want a Elite one, when you are killing Brutes or a ODST one where you are defending a different part of Reach, either would be great and make it hard to say bad things about campaign.

If Bungie did all this, is there any way that they couldn't get a 10* game?

Thanks for reading, please discuss.


[Edited on 11.20.2009 9:28 AM PST]

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You mentioned that you wanted an ODST campain. The human campain has already been decided, you will be a spartan fighting alongside other spartans.

I do think they should have more elites though. it would really make it more epic.

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Thank you for actualy reading the whole post.

  • 11.20.2009 10:07 AM PDT

poop

epic post is epic


awesome ... :)

  • 11.20.2009 10:14 AM PDT

There is nothing wrong with Halo:Reach. We all just have our gripes about everything we don't like. Not liking something doesn't make it broken.

Obligatory bump because this thread is good.

  • 11.20.2009 10:16 AM PDT

They need to do the impossible, making an actual boss fight. Tartarus was fine but we never really got to fight gravemind and even in Halo Wars weren't allowed to fly pelicans. Yet modders can fly pelicans so easily... wtf's the issue? Just make the game more expansive into the fanbase's favor and pull out new features. Otherwise they'll never beat MW2.

  • 11.20.2009 10:22 AM PDT

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- More Battle Rifle
- Less Battle Rifle


lolwut?

How about NO Battle Rifle?

  • 11.20.2009 10:38 AM PDT

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(2) pwn the world bungie
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there wouldn't be a battle rifle anyways, the battle rifle only showed up during the events of halo 2. So bungie has to make up a new marksmen weapon, to give players something similar to the battle rifle.

  • 11.20.2009 10:42 AM PDT

-More scarabs

  • 11.20.2009 10:55 AM PDT

Posted by: CivilWolf
-More scarabs
Scarabs that can actually desrtoy stuff. In halo 2 those things were unstoppable.

  • 11.20.2009 10:57 AM PDT

What I didn't like about battling Tartarus was that it didn't show a health bar, so I was shooting at him for ages without any idea of how close I was to defeating him. If they make any more boss battles, I think they should add a health bar.

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Posted by: Dither100
What I didn't like about battling Tartarus was that it didn't show a health bar, so I was shooting at him for ages without any idea of how close I was to defeating him. If they make any more boss battles, I think they should add a health bar.


Funny, I liked not being able to see how much health he had, it made me fear him even more. Although now going back and fighting him I am supprised about how little he can take.

  • 11.20.2009 11:11 AM PDT

Posted by: ColeKiller
there wouldn't be a battle rifle anyways, the battle rifle only showed up during the events of halo 2. So bungie has to make up a new marksmen weapon, to give players something similar to the battle rifle.


But BR's were around much earlier.
In fact, the Spartans got their first BR on Reach ;)
If Reach takes place partly during First Strike, that would mean the BR could be brought back later on in the game.

  • 11.20.2009 11:12 AM PDT

MCz

Do you guys know, that it will be impossible to fit this onto a single DVD ? Unless you dont mind installing the game from 2 or mode DVDs, or make it on PS3 :) That would solve the problem right away.

  • 11.20.2009 11:27 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

In my opinion, Halo CE was 10*. Halo 2 8.5/10, Halo 3 9 or 9.5/10. Halo Wars either 7 or 8/10.

  • 11.20.2009 11:56 AM PDT

Posted by: ColeKiller
there wouldn't be a battle rifle anyways, the battle rifle only showed up during the events of halo 2. So bungie has to make up a new marksmen weapon, to give players something similar to the battle rifle.
I'm sorry but the BR was made before halo 1 as a protype. The Br was actually seen in halo Contact harvest. Infact wasn't it the first weapon to be used against the covenant?

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Halo CE was a 9*, Halo 2 was a 9.5*, Halo 3 was a 9.2*, ODST was a 9*, Halo Wars was a 9.1*

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Posted by: Nicke Sw3
epic post is epic


awesome ... :)


Why thank you.

  • 11.20.2009 1:22 PM PDT

MCz

PPL really, BR was just hundreds of years before the halo events, ever heard of M-16? (3 shot burst, precise at medium-long range etc.) There is a 500 year gap between today and halo universe, imagine how many thousands of weapons were developed. I think bungie has a vast arsenal of halo weapons at their disposal.

  • 11.22.2009 1:10 AM PDT

Halo 3: ODST = $30

I think Halo 3 deserved a 10 star rating. I mean it was as good as a game could get for $60.

  • 11.22.2009 1:40 AM PDT
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i agree with the campaing part here are some other good ideas (not for campaing)------------------------> some good ideas

  • 11.22.2009 1:49 AM PDT

I don't suggest Bungie use this.

It's a great idea to be honest but nothing is perfect. The only game I have ever seen given a 10/10 would be GTA IV but that has had 7+ games to make it perfect and is an epic game because of it's gametype. Plus it's the reviewer's opinions, one might think a campaign a bit flat on the storyline but another might think it fails at another aspect, see where I am getting at? Bungie should try their best and listen to the community. I'd rather Bungie listen to what I want than what a reviewer wants.

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Posted by: mcz117chief
PPL really, BR was just hundreds of years before the halo events, ever heard of M-16? (3 shot burst, precise at medium-long range etc.) There is a 500 year gap between today and halo universe, imagine how many thousands of weapons were developed. I think bungie has a vast arsenal of halo weapons at their disposal.


The BR is modeled after the Famas, a French designed automatic weapon.
Just a little snippet of info I decided to bring up...

  • 11.22.2009 1:54 AM PDT

Posted by: DamagedBinary
I don't suggest Bungie use this.

It's a great idea to be honest but nothing is perfect. The only game I have ever seen given a 10/10 would be GTA IV but that has had 7+ games to make it perfect and is an epic game because of it's gametype. Plus it's the reviewer's opinions, one might think a campaign a bit flat on the storyline but another might think it fails at another aspect, see where I am getting at? Bungie should try their best and listen to the community. I'd rather Bungie listen to what I want than what a reviewer wants.

When it comes down to it, (most) fans are the best people to go to for reference.

  • 11.22.2009 1:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: DamagedBinary
I don't suggest Bungie use this.

It's a great idea to be honest but nothing is perfect. The only game I have ever seen given a 10/10 would be GTA IV but that has had 7+ games to make it perfect and is an epic game because of it's gametype. Plus it's the reviewer's opinions, one might think a campaign a bit flat on the storyline but another might think it fails at another aspect, see where I am getting at? Bungie should try their best and listen to the community. I'd rather Bungie listen to what I want than what a reviewer wants.

When it comes down to it, (most) fans are the best people to go to for reference.

True, MOST fans. I've seen some really weird ideas that could have potentially ruin the experience.

  • 11.22.2009 1:59 AM PDT

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