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Subject: Instead of Classes

I don't know if this topic has been posted before so i'm sorry if it has.

I think that in Halo Reach it would be cool if instead of classes you could have all the different types of weapons there's ever been in Halo and as you go up rank you unlock the new types for example:

level 1-10 armory: M6G pistol, MA5C Assault Rifle, BR55HB SR Battle Rifle. (Halo 3 Weapons)

Level 11-20 Armory: M6C Pistol, MA5B Assault Rifle, BR55 Battle Rifle (Halo 2 and ODST Weapons)

I know there are other weapon variants such as the shotgun but this is just to give you an idea.

Level 1-20 Varied Weapon set: M6C pistol (Halo 2 Pistol), MA5C Assault Rifle (Halo 3 AR), BR55 Battle Rifle (Halo 2 BR)

So lets use for an example the Assault Rifle which would be the MA5C Assault Rifle if you were level 1-10. But if you unlock the next gun up you can still choose to use your original gun it's just which guns you like best.

This could mean if there was just a regular team deathmatch some people would start with their MA5C Asssault riffle and some would start with their MA5B Assault rifle and the same with the different types of pistol which wouldn't make the game unbalanced because they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I know the weapons wouldn't follow canon but in my opinion canon doesn't really matter in MM as long as you have UNSC and Covenent otherwise in Halo 3 MM there wouldn't have been Spartans and Elites, there would've been Spartans and Brutes.

[Edited on 11.22.2009 10:40 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2009 3:37 AM PDT

i dont think bungie wants anything to do with better weapons for the more experienced.

A big part of multiplayer is weapons on map, and its quite silly not including that in reach

  • 11.21.2009 3:49 AM PDT

So what you're basically saying is not letting everybody have equal weapons to begin with, eliminating a fair chance for everybody (which made Halo great). Also, I might be a level 25 for example, but the game sometimes manages to mix me in with lvl 35 who would then have better weapons than me, which wouldn't be fair.

I don't know man, i mean you obviosuly thought about this (unlike 99% of the other topic starters) but I don't like it.

  • 11.21.2009 3:50 AM PDT

I'm not saying there would be no weapons on the map just you can start with different guns and as i said before weapons have advantages and disadvantages the MA5C is longer range but has a smaller clip rather than the MA5B which is shorter range but has a bigger clip it would balance it out this could be the case with pistols and battle riffles too.

  • 11.21.2009 4:01 AM PDT

There should be a team called Spetnaz and we should get flash bangs and smoke grenades and there should a perks called stopping power and we should be able to go prone and there should be acog scopes.

SHUT THE HELL UP AND GO PLAY COD.


edit: After calming down and coming back I think that while this seems a nice idea one weapon set will always be better than another and we don't want unbalanced play.

[Edited on 11.21.2009 4:59 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2009 4:57 AM PDT

War is Hell, and I'm the Devil -Halo Wars

It's kinda like CoD. In my opinion. I kinda like the idea, but like others said before, it'd be hard to face better people (If you aren't good at Halo). Also, Like CoD, you unlock new guns at new levels. Like say I'm level... 30. I get to unlock the Sniper Rifle!!! Now, let's work in some modifications to the Sniper Rifle. Like getting so many amount of kills with the Sniper gets you a Heat scope (just an example). Granted newbies with the sniper won't have this, but if they're determined, they can get it.

But Bungie has done a good job on pairing people up in Ranked with people close to their levels. (Also there's moments where it's not so great). But I'm sure some tweeking with the Matchmaking search and all that stuff, it could be a really good idea!

So, I agree with you, but then I don't in some instances >.>

  • 11.21.2009 5:02 AM PDT

I didn't say you unlock new guns as you go up. I said you can start with every weapon but as you go up rank you can unlock different versions of this weapon, not necessarily making it better just making it so it maybe has more ammo or but more spread of bullets for example.

[Edited on 11.21.2009 5:49 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2009 5:48 AM PDT

Posted by: InjuringPython
A game with more spread and larger mag would be worse. I think they should add guns that were slightly better that you unlocked when you went up in level.


Not necesarrily, maybe if you wanted a gun better for a cqc map.

  • 11.22.2009 10:35 AM PDT

Mythical Group

There is no greater catharsis than arguing on the Flood.

Your basically assuming the CoD approach which has you tune spawning loadouts will be more popular with the Halo crowd.

Sorry buddy, but we like weapons on the ground, map control is an awesome way to play.

  • 11.22.2009 10:36 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Halo is popular because everyone starts out equal and on fair ground. The team with the best tactics, that can control the map and power weapons will win. Unlike where a level 50 could spawn with the sniper or rockets and just -blam!- level 10's who spawn with assault rifles.

  • 11.22.2009 10:39 AM PDT

Ignore all those who say it is like CoD.

But honestly though, I don't think this would be that good for Halo. I mean, the AR we currently have can't even kill in a clip.

  • 11.22.2009 10:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
i dont think bungie wants anything to do with better weapons for the more experienced.

A big part of multiplayer is weapons on map, and its quite silly not including that in reach


This guy is right. The game could become very unbalanced if the opposition has 3 Commanders, whilst your team is full of Lieutenants.

No offense intended to anyone, the named ranks were only used as an example.

  • 11.22.2009 10:48 AM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Halo is popular because everyone starts out equal and on fair ground. The team with the best tactics, that can control the map and power weapons will win. Unlike where a level 50 could spawn with the sniper or rockets and just -blam!- level 10's who spawn with assault rifles.


OMG i'm not saying level 50's will start with different weapons than level 10's just differnt types of weapons depending on the gametype. If there is a regular team deathmatch both sides will start with assault rifles just their preferred version or if it's shotty snipers both teams will still spawn with shotguns and snipers just their preffered version and as i said before the different versions of the guns might not be better it would just have different advantages and disadvantages.

  • 11.22.2009 10:48 AM PDT

GTFO AND GO BUY COS YOU TRAITOR.

  • 11.22.2009 10:53 AM PDT

I see what the OP is saying. The new, low level would get the less skilled weapons and have to use more SKILL to take out the ones with better weapons who don't have to use as MUCH SKILL. I think it's really rewarding to kill someone who has serious advantage over you. But as well, can be annoying if you get killed like 5-15 times in a row.

  • 11.22.2009 10:59 AM PDT