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Subject: Magnum is rediculous!
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You can quote me and wait till more info is public bound or when it releases.

And if you think im a liar than clearly you have played the beta, ive explained all 4 playable level's the best i can but maybe not to your hearts desire. I havent played for a couple days so unless things have changed since then I know what i saw.

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  • 07.27.2004 11:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: Spanky551
Posted by: MuellersDeath
I do not have the beta, my friend has it and i have agree'd to the notice/contract before playing which states i cant tell you anything. But i'll put things in my own words.

There are 4 maps uncluding Zanzibar and Waterworks, the others i wont say the name but one of them takes place in like a mall/civic center the is incredibly buetiful and awesome to play. The other map is kinda like derelict.

There are 2 weapons that are used that havent been anounced to the public, the one i mentioned, and another is caried by a new covenant foe which you are familiar with.



Ha!

I laugh at your atempt which you call "a lie"

LIE!!! lie is giving it too much credit, first i doubt you would know this, second i doubt bungie ould have told us about that many weapons that there were only a few we didnt know

  • 07.27.2004 11:06 AM PDT
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lmfao, sorry about the nov 9th harddrive thing. I honestly meant augest 24th. Please quote me on something else i would be extremely appreciative.

  • 07.27.2004 11:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: yappojilla
you guys must all be crazy! there is not goung to be any -Blaming!- Magnum! Bungie hasnt said anything, no screenshots, no concept art, nothing! and besids, do you realy think that the human military; hundreds of years from now will be using magnums? standard issue? not likley. i mean honestly, this is Halo 2, not james bond! it has got to be the most rediculus idea for a weapon in H2 i have ever heard.


haha, there IS a magnum in Halo 2! I am 110% positive. haha, boy, did you just make yourself look like a fool!

  • 07.27.2004 11:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Agamemnon
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LIE!!! lie is giving it too much credit, first i doubt you would know this, second i doubt bungie ould have told us about that many weapons that there were only a few we didnt know


Let me reinerate, im not sure how many more weapons there are going to be, but the 2 i mentioned havent been publicly anounced.

  • 07.27.2004 11:10 AM PDT
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Son of a... double post sorry guys.

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  • 07.27.2004 11:11 AM PDT
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Anyone on this thread heard of Mark VI Armor?

  • 07.27.2004 11:11 AM PDT
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no, it wouldn't be stupid to put in a magnum. Let me all clue you in on something... it's all right... come closer... ok... ... IT'S A GAME! A game doesn't have to make sense. If they wanted to make a realistic halo game, they'd have to get rid of halo, spaceships, spartans (which I might add that one of them can kill armada after armada of aliens? Does that sound realistic?) if you want "games that make sense" go play Tom Clancy games (which I might add are really great games)

In other words, you're in the wrong place if you're looking for a game that makes sense to real life...

  • 07.27.2004 11:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: MuellersDeath
Posted by: Agamemnon
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LIE!!! lie is giving it too much credit, first i doubt you would know this, second i doubt bungie ould have told us about that many weapons that there were only a few we didnt know


Let me reinerate, im not sure how many more weapons there are going to be, but the 2 i mentioned havent been publicly anounced.

Oh sorry didnt get that. But i still firmly believe that the magnum will be true to FS and be verry powerfull, and reasonably accurate

  • 07.27.2004 11:12 AM PDT
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Damn it I'm screwing up here.

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  • 07.27.2004 11:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lifeforce
no, it wouldn't be stupid to put in a magnum. Let me all clue you in on something... it's all right... come closer... ok... ... IT'S A GAME! A game doesn't have to make sense. If they wanted to make a realistic halo game, they'd have to get rid of halo, spaceships, spartans (which I might add that one of them can kill armada after armada of aliens? Does that sound realistic?) if you want "games that make sense" go play Tom Clancy games (which I might add are really great games)

In other words, you're in the wrong place if you're looking for a game that makes sense to real life...

Life force u suck, and infact Alot of halo is reasonably realistic, and the books are even more realistic, and infact the way we are going today, i allmoast would think we would end up like the humans, because each of our colonies would want independace and control

  • 07.27.2004 11:14 AM PDT
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Do you know that almost all of our military is better then the technology in halo? (excluding spaceships and spartans) Do you know what nano technology is? It is believed to be the future tech. that will be incorporated in armor, weapons, vehicles, etc. Does halo have any of that? No. Guns in R6 3 are better then in halo! NO, Covies will never be here on earth. oh, by the way, reasonably realistic? try... not at all. It's a thing called fiction my poor deprived little friend. Bungie will incorporate what ever they see fit. Their goal is to make the game fun, not realistic...

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  • 07.27.2004 11:19 AM PDT
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As Makaveli4ever once put it the novels are little slices of the Halo story bible that bungie has provided us. And why would they give us false info in their officially liscensed book? Especially considering it also has descriptions of the Battle Rifle and Slug Thrower and everyone accept's that those are in the game but the Magnum isn't? The Magnum would be like a Desert Eagle it would have smaller clip but more stoping power than usual and if you were a good shot you could connect with a target at some pretty long ranges however this is made up for with alot slower rate of fire. And if you missed your target and he had a Battle Rifle then you would be dead however if you were a great shot you could kill your enemy it would all be for balance.

[Edited on 7/27/2004 11:36:22 AM]

  • 07.27.2004 11:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lifeforce
Do you know that almost all of our military is better then the technology in halo? (excluding spaceships and spartans) Do you know what nano technology is? It is believed to be the future tech. that will be incorporated in armor, weapons, vehicles, etc. Does halo have any of that? No. Guns in R6 3 are better then in halo! NO, Covies will never be here on earth. oh, by the way, reasonably realistic? try... not at all. It's a thing called fiction my poor deprived little friend. Bungie will incorporate what ever they see fit. Their goal is to make the game fun, not realistic...

Life force either u havent a brain or....well there isnt another possible explanation. Nano technology isnt all its cracked up to be; it can only reform the material in some cases they can change the mollecular arangement but only in certain conditions can the chemical bonds be broken and then reformed into the propper material, especially with the simpler material it is only possible to reshape them into a few things, the chances that two atomic substances can be taken fromthe same material in two different places and connected directly are slim, now yes there is allways an element of unrealism to game like halo. Sure RB6 is more realistic, because it is in the present not the future, a game like halo is realistic to a degree but it is still in the future so we cannot see it as realistic. If u knew anything you would understand this

  • 07.27.2004 11:41 AM PDT

"Help Help I'm being repressed! Come and see the Violence inherent in the system!"
"Bloody peasant!"
"Oh did you see that? you saw him repress me?"

I pray that they wont make a low number of head shots kill someone outright, as thats poor! it makes pros too good on X-Live and might ruin it for people who aren't that good <me>, and im sure Bungie said that they were changing the pistol to stop this! they wont make the Magnum like that!

<note any info in the above post in OPINION, so no matter what you do, it wont change, OR it might not be true so dont flame!>

  • 07.27.2004 11:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Andz Jones
I pray that they wont make a low number of head shots kill someone outright, as thats poor! it makes pros too good on X-Live and might ruin it for people who aren't that good <me>, and im sure Bungie said that they were changing the pistol to stop this! they wont make the Magnum like that!

<note any info in the above post in OPINION, so no matter what you do, it wont change, OR it might not be true so dont flame!>

It has allready been stated how many bullets a magnum requires to kill an elite/spartan: 2

  • 07.27.2004 11:43 AM PDT
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Stated by whom?

  • 07.27.2004 11:47 AM PDT
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In First Strike a book which has been aproved by bungie as being accurate enough to publish it states that two shots from a magnum to an elites head will kill an elite
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Stated by whom?

  • 07.27.2004 11:49 AM PDT
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The way their making the weapons in Halo 2 is about balance and whatever gun you like you can get good with and you wont be at a disadvantage. The smart and skilled player will nearly always come out on top. This is not how Halo 1 was in that game if you didn't use a pistol you were at a huge disadvantage on most levels. And with two head shot kills wouldn't be bad considering a magnum fires much slower and wouldn't have a scope you wouldn't die any quicker with a magnum than the old M6D.

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  • 07.27.2004 11:50 AM PDT
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oh i see, but its not acurate to the game as far as how many shots it takes for an instant kill in multiplayer/live.

  • 07.27.2004 11:51 AM PDT
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who says a magnum has to be a revolver? IMO it will be in there, and please if you're going to flame other people's opinions, please include reasoning, dont just say i'm right you're wrong, and as such i have seen no evidence against it, but first strike mentions it, so at the minute, it's evidence for 1-0 evidence against.
I think it will rebalance the pistol, which all the newbs used (yes, newbs, i used it for a time and realised it was useless and moved on to the needler and AR) and just tried to overwhelm people, although it is more powerful than the m6d, it has a much slower ROF (compensated through dual wielding), a very large amount of recoil, a lower range and no scope stopping campers picking you off from a mile.

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Posted by: Shadow_WarriorX
The way their making the weapons in Halo 2 is about balance and whatever gun you like you can get good with and you wont be at a disadvantage. The smart and skilled player will nearly always come out on top. This is not how Halo 1 was in that game if you didn't use a pistol you were at a huge disadvantage on most levels.

Not nescaserily you could use the shotgun or the RL with less skill than the Pistol and rack up the sam ekills

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Posted by: Shadow_WarriorX
The way their making the weapons in Halo 2 is about balance and whatever gun you like you can get good with and you wont be at a disadvantage. The smart and skilled player will nearly always come out on top. This is not how Halo 1 was in that game if you didn't use a pistol you were at a huge disadvantage on most levels. And with two head shot kills wouldn't be bad considering a magnum fires much slower and wouldn't have a scope you wouldn't die any quicker with a magnum than the old M6D.


Couldnt have said it better, except the magnum theory, it has a higher rate of fire than the M6D.

  • 07.27.2004 11:54 AM PDT
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hey bud,IF you read the books you would know that (Fred I think) found a crate full of magnums which where more balanced and heavier on the handle...What makes you think that in the futer they wouldent be using Magnums?The regular pistol is basically a Desert Eagle,just with EXPLOSIVE 50 cal rounds...Hell we're still using bullets in the futer,I would venture that they would want a gun that could blow a hole the size of a basketball in their weapon lineup....

  • 07.27.2004 11:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: MuellersDeath
Posted by: Shadow_WarriorX
The way their making the weapons in Halo 2 is about balance and whatever gun you like you can get good with and you wont be at a disadvantage. The smart and skilled player will nearly always come out on top. This is not how Halo 1 was in that game if you didn't use a pistol you were at a huge disadvantage on most levels. And with two head shot kills wouldn't be bad considering a magnum fires much slower and wouldn't have a scope you wouldn't die any quicker with a magnum than the old M6D.


Couldnt have said it better, except the magnum theory, it has a higher rate of fire than the M6D.

That would unbalance it besides it doesnt need a higher rate of fire

  • 07.27.2004 11:55 AM PDT