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Subject: Snipers suck! are you with me!
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Poll: Long range or Short Range  [closed]
Long Range:  68%
(100 Votes)
Short Range:  32%
(47 Votes)
Total Votes: 147

Clearly i have anticipated ALOT of diagreement with my opinion but let me explain myself...
REMEMBER:i speak as if this is a ctf game, where the point is to get flag captures NOT KILLS

Pros of sniping (non-pistol JUST SNIPER)
1.IF your good cover your teammates temporarily<--low ammo count
2.kill enemy flag bearers (also in vehicles)
3.killing enemy snipers (what a stupid cycle getting a sniper to kill snipers that got their sniper for the same reason you got yours)

CONS!
1. most people miss more shots than they hit anyway
2.time you spend sniping is wasted time, it slows the momentum of your team's progress
3.again, low ammo count
4.this last one is my opinion but some of you may agree.
killing enemies without the threat of them killing you is pathetic and cowardly can you say P-U-S-S-y? (again i'm talking about when a sniper is killing people that have close range weapons or are out of range to fight back)it's like killing ants if you take actual pride in the killing of things smaller than you than you deserve no respect

Close range pros( weapons like shotgun, pistol, plasma guns etc.)

1.You can't get multiple consecutive killtaculars with a sniper rifle ; )
2.shotguns are MUCH more effective in flag stealing
3.covering a teammate is much more effective with a pistol
4.weapons like the shotgun have super fast reload (you can practically reload while shooting) and a nearly inexhaustable ammo count
5.it takes a real man to put your life on the line and come out guns blazing and victorious

reasons why people like the sniper rifle
1.they feel safe while using it (thats why noobs flock towards it like dogs to a hot piece of meat)
2.lets face it it's fun to use "whoopee! i'm a real thniper guyth!"
3.they think that they are helping their team by getting kills
well you know what? i've won entire ctf games without ever firing a shot or using a mellee attack or grenades.(sneak in grab flag escape in hog)

now please don't get me wrong i LOVE using the sniper rifle i am excellent at sniping and use it to the fullest extent of it's abilities. i'm just sick and tired of people saying it's so great. yes i said i'm good with it thats simply because in halo you are forced to be the master of every weapon or get your arse kicked.i do feel like a total rat while using it though.
lets hear your opinion.

  • 04.28.2004 4:26 PM PDT
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The sniper can be very powerfull in the right hands and when you see that you wish it had less ammo.......

Btw sniper are not coward because good sniper are mostly good pistoler and good pistoler are good player who kick people ass from any distance.

  • 04.28.2004 4:29 PM PDT

1. most people miss more shots than they hit anyway -- [color=red]Thats most people, not me[/color]
2.time you spend sniping is wasted time, it slows the momentum of your team's progress-- [color=red] actually it speeds it up so they dont have to bother with the other team [/color]
3.again, low ammo count --[color=red] 24 shots can be useful...24 kills...low ammo yeah right[/color]
4.this last one is my opinion but some of you may agree.
killing enemies without the threat of them killing you is pathetic and cowardly can you say P-U-S-S-y? (again i'm talking about when a sniper is killing people that have close range weapons or are out of range to fight back)it's like killing ants if you take actual pride in the killing of things smaller than you than you deserve no respect [color=red] Well maybe because the people who are defenceless is you, and they have the exact same chance of getting a sniper, so you cant say its cowardly. and then if its like killing ants, then i guess your saying that the short range people suck? I guess your right when you say that.[/color]

  • 04.28.2004 4:32 PM PDT
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i like sniping. i just kinda really suck at it.

-Mooman1014

  • 04.28.2004 4:32 PM PDT
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sniper is only good on BG and SW(wich i never play) even though on BG i don't use it a whole lot I still use it. I like sniping and want to get better but I really like the pistol and either rocket/snipe depends on whats happening. or shotty pistol if base guarding. I also use the pistol/shotty on all levels with some rocket.

  • 04.28.2004 4:32 PM PDT
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"The sniper can be very powerfull in the right hands"

Wow, how many times have I heard that? Too many times to count. How many times have I seen that? Maybe twice. I'm not going to say you're cowards... but I just don't find it as much fun as actually fighting someone.

  • 04.28.2004 4:34 PM PDT
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u talk about alot of stuff. But u dearly underestimate the sniper. The best player at halo I gurantee it has mastered every weapon. I have never lost a multiplayer match in my life and I've played hundreds of them against some super tough people. ihaven't even ever died inside a base. But no one seems to realize that different situations call for different tactics. Also, snipers aren't panzies although u seem to think so. A good sniper (like me because I've mastered every weapon including the sniper rifle) can turn a match around,give cover fire, pin the enemy down, and help keep ur ass alive. If I was playing 2 on 2 multiplayer I would have one person on my team be a sniper becase it is very critical to the outcome of a match. Read Halo: first strike and u would know without the sniper/spartan sniper mc and his fellow spartans would not have made it off the unyielding heirophant.

  • 04.28.2004 4:36 PM PDT
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You should play again me or any other AOD .... we kill a minimum of 8 player with 12 shot.

  • 04.28.2004 4:37 PM PDT
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3.covering a teammate is much more effective with a pistol
sorry, not always true. I'd much rather have a good sniper covering me than a decent pistoleer. While, in most cases, you'd be better off with a pistol buddy in a firefight once it has started, a sniper can pick off enemies before they get close to you and give you a quick heads up when there's trouble coming towards you

5.it takes a real man to put your life on the line and come out guns blazing and victorious I think how you play a videogame has little to nothing to do with someone's actual courage or honor.

3.they think that they are helping their team by getting kills
well you know what? i've won entire ctf games without ever firing a shot or using a mellee attack or grenades.(sneak in grab flag escape in hog)

How do you intend on winning a CTF game if NOBODY on your team makes a point to kill anybody on the other team who are happily shooting at you guys? Somebody has to hold back the waves of enemies coming towards the base and kill before somebody makes off with your flag. Truth is, sniping is helpful to the team, just like running straight through with a shotgun and blasting the people in your way.


You make a pretty good argument, but my opinion is the sniper rifle is just like any other weapon. Of course it's not the absolute best and everyone should use it, but the sniper rifle has its own place and uses in the field. Being a sniper is just a playstyle, afterall, just like grabbing camo and meleeing, using a ghost or run in on foot assault rifle blazing.

-edit- never lost a multiplayer halo match ever? I'm guessing you only play Xbox, but what about when you just started playing Halo? Did you play blind kids or something? I'd be horribly disappointed with playing multiplayer if nobody in my town was good enough to beat me at least once. . . I kinda' feel bad for you. It must get so boring.

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:46:07 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:39 PM PDT
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If you can't take the heat, get outta my crosshairs...

(although I admit I'm far better with mouse sniping than on a pad)

  • 04.28.2004 4:42 PM PDT
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I kinda like when my team members cover me with a sniper. It makes things easier. It also works for quick take downs on flag stealers.

  • 04.28.2004 4:43 PM PDT

I'd much sooner snipe someone and live, than be an idiot, and charge the enemy base with a shotgun and die. If you'd rather die worthlessly and have "honor" instead of covering your team, I question your sanity. You can provide much more cover for your team when you're alive, my friend. To me, it looks like you have a friend who is a superior sniper and you don’t like that- at all. My advice to you is to pick up a sniper rifle, and start practicing. Whoop him at his own game. ;-)

  • 04.28.2004 4:44 PM PDT
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I don't want any trouble, but all of you who are saying you're the greatest and keep shoving it in our faces like it means something, need to stop. It's really stupid and immature.

  • 04.28.2004 4:45 PM PDT

And I assume I am doing that somehow. Explain yourself. I simply gave advice. I have my own views, you have yours. I'm not immature because I think different than you.

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:49:54 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Porter117
I don't want any trouble, but all of you who are saying you're the greatest and keep shoving it in our faces like it means something, need to stop. It's really stupid and immature.

So is insulting people on an internet forum, but, hey, that's what we're here for after all. This board survives on the 3 B's, Bragging, Boredom and Bickering and if you find that to your distaste, then I think you'd enjoy yourself more doing other stuff like actually playing halo than hanging out on messageboards.

Let 'em brag because you know, deep down, that only the Ogres have the real (seemingly unholy) skill in halo

-edit- and I think he meant Gruntkiller117 who "never lost a MP match"

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:51:41 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:50 PM PDT
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Snipers do not suck! there the best i agre ewith them a "Good" Sniper can clear the ways of their team mates allot teams are always sayin "get a sniper up there" its hard to be a good sniper it takes a lot of thinking and aim something u dont need for short range thats why short range is so easy sniping is hard lets see you try ! stop saying the sniper rifle is Crap
THE SNIPER RIFLE IS THE BEST !
-Kris

  • 04.28.2004 4:52 PM PDT
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I don't want any trouble, but all of you who are saying you're the greatest and keep shoving it in our faces like it means something, need to stop. It's really stupid and immature.

what ever....

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:57:35 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:53 PM PDT
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I was mainly talking to everyone that does that. You can say you're good and all, but don't remind us everyother sentence.

Oh, and Coylter, I didn't make this post.

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:56:15 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:54 PM PDT
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Let 'em brag because you know, deep down, that only the Ogres have the real (seemingly unholy) skill in halo

Those guy are awesome....
I aint bragging...go play -AOD-Chaz or -AOD-Nemesis and you will see what i mean when i say 8 kill with 12 round....

[Edited on 4/28/2004 4:56:36 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 4:55 PM PDT
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Peck what you have described is not sniping. It's called sharp shooting. There is a difference. A true sniper is much more valuable, allows the team to win fatser, is a pain in the ass for the enemy, relocates often, hits his target getting a kill in one shot, and is a true warrior.

A sharp shooter is just a guy with a rifle that provides support and is pretty much useless until he can prove himself otherwise. It is the sharpshooter that can prevent a team from advancing because while he gives support he constantly needs support.

The sniper does not. He is his own support and can carry himself as well as the team along with him. Plus a sniper can get plenty of captures. I'd know, I average at about 8 per game and I play the strict role of sniper in about a third of my games. The rest I am assualt/defense or sniper/assault/defense.

  • 04.28.2004 5:01 PM PDT
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I believe you. There are a lot of great Halo players, and I wouldn't doubt you're one of them. Of course, I don't think anybody can really compare to the Ogres, but I can imagine they'll have carpal tunnel within a year or so.

  • 04.28.2004 5:01 PM PDT
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true statement

i love sniping but i love playin the actual game not having to worry about someone campin and blowin -blam!- out ur ass

  • 04.28.2004 5:05 PM PDT
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Everything that has a beginning has an end...

  • 04.28.2004 5:05 PM PDT
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sniping is nothing more then another stragey in the game, and a very effective one at that. i can be used to cover and assualt, and it is one of the better guns in the game. but seriously, dont use it if u suck

  • 04.28.2004 5:17 PM PDT
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Who says you can't use the sniper rifle close range? I use it all the time at close range, 1 head shot or 2 body shots.

  • 04.28.2004 5:23 PM PDT