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Subject: The Brute Gun. Speculation and Questions About Balance.
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I know no-one can know anything for sure about any particular weapon or feature untill the game ships, but I would like to hear peoples ideas on what the capabilities and features of the Brute ( Weapon? Cannon? Gun? Boomstick?)

On the last weekly update, Frankie mentioned the 'Brute Shot'. Here's the quote:

I kinda miss the tinkle on multiplayer maps, since it loudly announced when somebody was walking in certain areas. Which you would then blast. With a Brute Shot. "Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. Whump, whump, whump. Blam! Blam! Blam! Ow."

That sounds like a grenade launcher yeah? I know that is'nt groundbreaking or anything, but that sounds like a borderline confimation to me.

I always thought a grenade launcher would be sweet, I know MC is like a little one man mortar team with a full compliment of 8 grenades and a little practice, but still...

I'm imagining it holds 10-15 rounds, mabey a little more.

Grenades ( If they are indeed greandes) will probably (hopefully?) explode on impact or very shortly after.

The damage from each round would be slightly less than half a frag grenade. No flash bang effect( if that is included with the new frags.) The Brute doesn't seem to be the kind of species to use plasma as a first choice. It just doesnt seem 'solid' enough. Could be wrong here too however.

The range, if standing on level ground, aiming straight, would be a slight arc starting from barrel and hitting at about the ARs maximim effective range. To gain ( MAD ) range, aim higher to lob that explodey goodness down on you unsespecing foes.

Melee ( where I think the Brute may surpass the Hunter in nastiness) would be very strong and give you a slightly extended range ( depending on the swing I guess ) but slower than other weapons.

These are just some ideas, what would you like to see out of the Brute Cannon?

  • 07.28.2004 6:11 PM PDT
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I heard it had some type of blade under the gun for slashing and melee.

  • 07.28.2004 6:14 PM PDT
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Well it's already been said that it's basically a "slug" thrower. I think a damage of about half a frag grenade and explodes on impact with 10 shots would be tight ass. It would be an awesome balance with the battle rifle: battle rifle for distance and real close, and then when the enemy is midrange you blast em with a couple brute shots. The melee would also be sweet, and yes it's been confirmed that there's a hook on the bottom so maybe they could make it like the plasma sword where one hit with the right swing would be a 1 hit kill. I can't wait for this because I reallly don't think they'll have the fuel rod cannon and the brute gun would be a perfect substitute.

  • 07.28.2004 6:19 PM PDT
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Have you seen the e3 demo thing..where the brutes are all firing at the chief...they looked like normal energy weapons to me...But what WOULD be cool is like..timed mines,or better remote mines...place em on a wall and when someone goes by BOOOOM

  • 07.28.2004 6:20 PM PDT
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i hope that it is a lob gun halo needed one of those they also need a vehical one or let us drive the wrath they had an advantage of being able to lob shots over a hill while we (tanks or rocket) needed a straight path to the target. so i welcom the brute gernade launching like gun.

  • 07.28.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: HBOTheGuardians
Have you seen the e3 demo thing..where the brutes are all firing at the chief...they looked like normal energy weapons to me...But what WOULD be cool is like..timed mines,or better remote mines...place em on a wall and when someone goes by BOOOOM





I think the E3 Demo had 'placeholder' weapongraphics for the weapon, like the Brutes themselves were basicly Grunt AI and physics ( except the knockin' fools out the Warthog ) No proof but I think that is most likely.

Mines would be sweet. Brute would be like the sappers of the Covenent. What ARE those blue and steel orb thingamajigs on his belt anyways>

  • 07.28.2004 6:25 PM PDT
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As far as vehicle weapons go, I think the LAAG Warthog should have powerfull search light to activate, for those pesky dense jungles at night....

  • 07.28.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: MoNucka
What ARE those blue and steel orb thingamajigs on his belt anyways>



Ammo for the gun?

  • 07.28.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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like the grenade launcher from goldeneye :)

  • 07.28.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Austin16230
like the grenade launcher from goldeneye :)


That has to be one of the best grenade launchers from any FPS. I kille dso many poor SOBs with that thing back in the day.

If the stuff in his belt IS Ammo, then I would wager its plasma based. those things look pretty bright and shiny.

  • 07.28.2004 6:34 PM PDT
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The Brutes Gun is a grenade launcher and there is a blade under the barrel. It says it in the book.

  • 07.28.2004 6:37 PM PDT
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OOOOO look at this...
http://bungie.net/images/Games/Halo2/Gallery/Concept/sketch_0 71.jpg


Ok thats the brutes concept art,now you see those glowing blue things right?They look like they could fit into the MAIN barrel of the brute gun...but what about those long slender tubes on his belt...they look like they would fit on that secondary barrel on the gun...the one under the main one...Mabey dif fireing modes?

  • 07.28.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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I also noticed the double barrels, perhaps it does have two firing modes. One the launcher and one the heavy( short range but powerfull) slug thrower. that would be kick ass. You would probably lose the ability to throw 'nades and the left trigger becomes grenade launch, the right is the slug thrower. That would be awsome.

  • 07.29.2004 8:59 AM PDT
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Maybe the blue things are mines, hmmm...

  • 07.29.2004 9:18 AM PDT
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Those four objects in the concept art look like they could be some sort of rifle grenade.

  • 07.29.2004 9:31 AM PDT
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Hold on..I have an idea...In the e3 vid. After the brutes hop down,they fire at MC and the bullets go striaght, like normal plasma...Maybe They DO have normal plasma guns (ie-like the P rifle) But when you press the left trigger it fires a heavy grenade of dif types :D

  • 07.29.2004 9:40 AM PDT