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Posted by: PMR NYM
First off back to just plasma grenades and frags? No spike grenades or firebombs? Does Bungie even know that they are still different on how they effect a fight? Apparently not.
They don't effect the fight enough to merit cutting the frag and plasma limit down to 2 each. You simply don't have enough grenades to go around if there're too many types. It's clutter. Less is more. Give the plasma elements from the firebomb and the frag elements from the spike grenade. Boom. Fixed. The needle rifle? three hits to super combine and explode? It's basically an insta needler with better aim and accuracy.It's 3 hits on an unshielded opponent. Who knows how fast it shoots? Then armor abilities instead of equipment? Oh wait and they recharge? wtfh? Oh my cloaking ran out I'll just go hide till I can be invisible again. Oh my over shield is gone time to go hide. Aww my bubble shield is depleted time to recharge it. Oh teh noz! My shield re generator is gone! Run and Recharge! Seriously wtfh?Reminds me of having regenerating health. Or regenerating shields for that matter. Sounds like a great gameplay addition to me. I'm sure the recharge rate will be very slow, and the durations proportionate to the effectiveness of the armor add-on. How will a trip mine work? Will it regenerate? .... They literally made MM imposable for this game.Maybe the trip mine just won't be in the game? Oh and lets not forget the DMR the one shot weapon. What is the point? It helps to further unbalance they game.You're one of those people who don't know what "one shot" weapon means. It means semi-automatic, one bullet per trigger pull. Like the Carbine, Pistol, etc. (where as the BR is a "three shot" weapon).

  • 01.27.2010 7:15 AM PDT

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You'll just have to micro manage.

It's nothing new to RPG and RTS players. Deal with it.
Um I play RTS and RPG games ......


Then why are you moaning? It's the same Halo, just a little more tactical.

PS - Halo Wars and Fable don't count as RTS and RPG games, they're dumbed down.

And that is the only thing I hate about Oblivion:

I have to check my weapon and armor dexterity every 30 minutes (before you ask, I hardly use magic). But that's fine since the game is beast.

On topic:
I didn't know the wambulance came on Sunday? Seriously, you're whining over nothing.

1. Spike Grenades were re-skinned Plasma Grenades while Flame Grenades really had no purpose outside of the campaign.

2. The Needle Rifle will most likely be balanced and not become the next BR. That and it takes 3 needle successions to super-combine when your opponents shields are down.

3. You won't want to hide to wait or your AA to recharge as someone with active-camo or sprint can come right up next to you and assassinate you. And offensive equipment like trip mines will not be transferred over as AA. And you can only have one AA.

4. The DMR is a one-hit headshot weapon when your opponent is un-shielded, not an automatic one-hit kill.



at last,somebody with a brain!!!!!
well done good sir

  • 01.27.2010 7:22 AM PDT

Stupid troll is stupid.

  • 01.27.2010 7:45 AM PDT
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This game seems more your speed.


WIN!

  • 01.29.2010 10:54 PM PDT
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This game seems more your speed.
Man, you know you fail the hardest when a Bungie employee comes in and pwns you. Epic win, Urk.

  • 01.29.2010 11:02 PM PDT

Posted by: ITZ Midget108
I swear people in these forums are getting stupider every day. The reason I say this is because this guy is making claims as if he has actually played the game, and even if he has which I highly doubt, it wouldn't matter any way as the game in only in the pre alpha stage.

Sooooooo if there was anything the community really hated in the Beta they would obviously change it in the actual game.


haha true that!!! ^^^

@ OP

the Needle Rifle, it takes three hits to super combine when there are NO SHIELDS...idiot
Also, we arent going to see OS or Regens, or Trip mines as armor abilities, they wouldnt be keeping it hush hush if those were them, annnddd armor abilities might not even make it into the multiplayer as bungie stated in the last update...which would be a bummer imo!!! And the DMR isnt going to be a one shot kill weapon...it is gonna be something that someone like you will probably not even be able to use effectively.../

  • 01.29.2010 11:04 PM PDT

if you're really going to be that butt hurt over mm, then just play campaign dumb dumb

  • 01.29.2010 11:05 PM PDT

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wtf are you talking about.. at least 10 things you said were COMPLETELY wrong.

  • 01.29.2010 11:06 PM PDT
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Wow you people are seriously retarded. How many times do I have to say I never said the damn DMR is a one shot one kill weapon? It isn't anywhere in my post. So why do I keep seeing you idiots saying that it isn't a one shot kill weapon? Seriously learn how to read people.

Edit:Posted by: OolL3GiToO
Posted by: ITZ Midget108
I swear people in these forums are getting stupider every day. The reason I say this is because this guy is making claims as if he has actually played the game, and even if he has which I highly doubt, it wouldn't matter any way as the game in only in the pre alpha stage.

Sooooooo if there was anything the community really hated in the Beta they would obviously change it in the actual game.


haha true that!!! ^^^

@ OP

the Needle Rifle, it takes three hits to super combine when there are NO SHIELDS...idiot
Also, we arent going to see OS or Regens, or Trip mines as armor abilities, they wouldnt be keeping it hush hush if those were them, annnddd armor abilities might not even make it into the multiplayer as bungie stated in the last update...which would be a bummer imo!!! And the DMR isnt going to be a one shot kill weapon...it is gonna be something that someone like you will probably not even be able to use effectively.../
Yea they stated that after I made this thread so they obviously read it. You are the idiot sir and/or madam.

[Edited on 01.31.2010 6:01 AM PST]

  • 01.31.2010 5:58 AM PDT

I agree, if you're playing MW2 or Sims 2.

  • 01.31.2010 5:59 AM PDT

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  • 01.31.2010 6:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: Blue Max70
Why is this thread still alive?
It's still alive because people are scared that what I've posted may become truth and they want to make sure that it doesn't happen. Therefore they keep posting here so Bungie keeps seeing it hoping that Bungie will listen to us.

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Posted by: PMR NYM
Posted by: Blue Max70
Why is this thread still alive?
It's still alive because people are scared that what I've posted may become truth and they want to make sure that it doesn't happen. Therefore they keep posting here so Bungie keeps seeing it hoping that Bungie will listen to us.
Nah, you're just clinging to your 15 minutes of fame, nimrod.

  • 01.31.2010 6:05 AM PDT

Posted by: PMR NYM
Wow you people are seriously retarded. How many times do I have to say I never said the damn DMR is a one shot one kill weapon? It isn't anywhere in my post. So why do I keep seeing you idiots saying that it isn't a one shot kill weapon? Seriously learn how to read people.

Edit:Posted by: OolL3GiToO
Posted by: ITZ Midget108
I swear people in these forums are getting stupider every day. The reason I say this is because this guy is making claims as if he has actually played the game, and even if he has which I highly doubt, it wouldn't matter any way as the game in only in the pre alpha stage.

Sooooooo if there was anything the community really hated in the Beta they would obviously change it in the actual game.


haha true that!!! ^^^

@ OP

the Needle Rifle, it takes three hits to super combine when there are NO SHIELDS...idiot
Also, we arent going to see OS or Regens, or Trip mines as armor abilities, they wouldnt be keeping it hush hush if those were them, annnddd armor abilities might not even make it into the multiplayer as bungie stated in the last update...which would be a bummer imo!!! And the DMR isnt going to be a one shot kill weapon...it is gonna be something that someone like you will probably not even be able to use effectively.../
Yea they stated that after I made this thread so they obviously read it. You are the idiot sir and/or madam.

if the DMR isnt a 1 hit kill, what is wrong with it? it is like the BR, but shoots single shots instead of bursts. they said in a weekly update it takes more skill at close range than the BR did.

and yeah they stated the needler rifle was 3 shots after shields are down after you made the thread... so who is the idiot for jumping to conclusions?

so if you were wrong about the needle rifle... perhaps there will NOT be an armour ability of bubble shield, regen and tripmines? because they are more than equipment with cooldowns, you would think sprint would show you that.

basically, the only thing on your list that wasnt a total (rubbish) assumption was the grenade bit, and that isnt a game destroying thing, its just a mild annoyance

[Edited on 01.31.2010 6:12 AM PST]

  • 01.31.2010 6:06 AM PDT

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Honestly, the Beta isn't out, really all the things that GI and Edge said were opinions, we saw ONE level. The Brutes could still be in the game, you never know.

Bungie knows what their doing, not all the equitment will be rechargeable. What if they were just single use, but you could use them when ever you wanted?

Except for sprint of course. Also for the DMR single shot =/= insta kill

  • 01.31.2010 6:10 AM PDT

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lol he thinks we get trip mines and bubble shields as armour equipment,what an idiot.

  • 01.31.2010 6:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: PMR NYM
After reading the Game Informer magazine Halo: Reach can't have multiplayer because it'll be way to messed up. First off back to just plasma grenades and frags? No spike grenades or firebombs? Does Bungie even know that they are still different on how they effect a fight?

On most matchmaking maps thats all you had anyway. You should take some trolling classes, because you seem to need the help.



Apparently not. The needle rifle? three hits to super combine and explode? It's basically an insta needler with better aim and accuracy. The needler rifle doesn't track its targets.

Then armor abilities instead of equipment? Oh wait and they recharge? wtfh? Oh my cloaking ran out I'll just go hide till I can be invisible again. Oh my over shield is gone time to go hide. Aww my bubble shield is depleted time to recharge it. Oh teh noz! My shield re generator is gone! Run and Recharge! Seriously wtfh? How will a trip mine work? Will it regenerate? ....

This paragraph revealed your attempt at trolling. Trip Mine regeneration? Are you retarded? Bungie didn't even think of something that stupid! You're the only one here who even contemplated that. You claim to have read GI, the armor abilities mentioned was cloaking, sprint, and i think jumping. Regenerating Shield was never mentioned.


They literally made MM imposable for this game.
They said it would be a bad idea to create someone like you, but God did it anyway. Sorry, but since you're a troll, it just had to be said. If you weren't a troll, i'd have been nicer.

Oh and lets not forget the DMR the one shot weapon. What is the point? It helps to further unbalance they game. Oh yeah, because one shot instead of three burst is so much more unbalanced.

Gees Bungie make it even harder to play. Let us only play MM as grunts and jackals and drones why don't ya? Good point.

Seriously like it would matter? Everyone would just grab camo, over shield, and bubble shield armor attachments and be invincible anyways.
Did you even play Halo 3? Overshield. Seriously? GTFO.

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Edit- Oh, and i'm very much aware that your just posting this blasphemy and crud just to make sure your thread stays alive. Its very sad that people like you are incapable of making a thread that lives longer than twenty minutes unless its a flame war.

Edit 2- When i said Overshield i meant that its not equipment that you can carry and choose when you use.

[Edited on 01.31.2010 6:23 AM PST]

  • 01.31.2010 6:20 AM PDT

Posted by: PMR NYM
Wow you people are seriously retarded. How many times do I have to say I never said the damn DMR is a one shot one kill weapon? It isn't anywhere in my post. So why do I keep seeing you idiots saying that it isn't a one shot kill weapon? Seriously learn how to read people.

Edit:Posted by: OolL3GiToO
Posted by: ITZ Midget108
I swear people in these forums are getting stupider every day. The reason I say this is because this guy is making claims as if he has actually played the game, and even if he has which I highly doubt, it wouldn't matter any way as the game in only in the pre alpha stage.

Sooooooo if there was anything the community really hated in the Beta they would obviously change it in the actual game.


haha true that!!! ^^^

@ OP

the Needle Rifle, it takes three hits to super combine when there are NO SHIELDS...idiot
Also, we arent going to see OS or Regens, or Trip mines as armor abilities, they wouldnt be keeping it hush hush if those were them, annnddd armor abilities might not even make it into the multiplayer as bungie stated in the last update...which would be a bummer imo!!! And the DMR isnt going to be a one shot kill weapon...it is gonna be something that someone like you will probably not even be able to use effectively.../
Yea they stated that after I made this thread so they obviously read it. You are the idiot sir and/or madam.

is that all you can acully back up? the dmr is made to be harder to use so you can't own every weapon with it, unlike the br, thats the point of it. needler thoery was shot down, abilities was, granades...
even an bungie employee told you your jumping to conclutions.
btw this was off the front page for a bit, did you bump it back up?

  • 01.31.2010 6:22 AM PDT
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Sounds balanced to me, faster paced game play, and sticking to cannon. What's not to love?

  • 01.31.2010 6:27 AM PDT

I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death.

Whether the OP is trolling or not, I lol'd.

  • 01.31.2010 6:38 AM PDT

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  • 01.31.2010 6:50 AM PDT

Posted by: o0MrCheesy0o
Whoever said spike grenades are re-skinned plasma grenades are terribly mistaken. They not only have different textures, but also have different models and interact differently with the environment. Plasma grenades bounce, spike grenades do not.

Anyways, I'm guessing these 'armor abilities' will be something like the perks in the CoD games. Bungie isn't an idiot (at least I don't think they are o_0), the MM will be balanced. Enough said.

no they are not. you pick them up and swap them like equipment, but unlike equipment they can be reused after a cooldown. they have confirmed sprint and cloaking.

that is nothing like cod, which has constant, unswappable, passive benefits that you pick rather than find

  • 01.31.2010 7:01 AM PDT