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Subject: Pistol is toned down... Yet there will be another cheap weapon.
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I know the beta may not be the full version but I knwo a beta tester who used the Covenant Carbine. Although it is not a cheap as the rocket launcher or the Energy sword. It is a cheap as the old pistol. With the new pistol being less accurate and only ten shots in a clip plus no zoom. I think if we need to petition about anything it should be this. But then again beta aint the final version.

  • 07.29.2004 4:05 PM PDT
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1-NDA
2-No one who has played the beta IE-Zanzibar Has played with the carbine due to its lack of being there ;)

  • 07.29.2004 4:06 PM PDT
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lol

looks like somebody is a lier...

mr Carbine tester

  • 07.29.2004 4:07 PM PDT
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I'm not talking about zanzibar here I'm talkin about the real beta version

[Edited on 7/29/2004 4:08:07 PM]

  • 07.29.2004 4:07 PM PDT
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The pistol was not really cheap. The problem was there were no other guns to choose from to counter it. This time around you will have a couple of choices for weapons to use at medium range.

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1: The Carbine wasn't in the Beta, so therefor your friend and you don't know what you're talking about.

2: The old pistol was NOT cheap, it filled the voids other weapons left open but it was not cheap. Because you could not outskill someone with that weapon don't call it cheap.

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yeah the pistol was the only medium range gun in Halo CE. I guess u could throw in sniper rifle 2x but thats not really a medium range gun.

  • 07.29.2004 4:09 PM PDT
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1. anyone that wont like the carbine is a suxorze
2.anyone that thinks the rocket launcher is cheap is a -blam!- bag
3.anyone who thinks the energy sword is cheap is just plain stupid because you have to get in close range just to use it, its probly the hardest thing to use

  • 07.29.2004 4:10 PM PDT
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The Master Chief emerged from his code. After seeing his dynamically lit realtime shadow, he went back for 9 more months of development.


Behold the power of the Originals, the Gods Axeone-Neurone.

My only lament on the M6D is that I long to use other weapons, but can't because most combat in Halo required the use of the pistol.

  • 07.29.2004 4:10 PM PDT
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Also,according to the Mountain Dew Contest winners,there is no pistol.

Peace

  • 07.29.2004 4:11 PM PDT
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Guys listen why are u already assuming the carbine wasnt in the beta version. Do u even know the guns in the beta version. And secondly the engery sword is cheap because it is one hit kill in close range.

  • 07.29.2004 4:11 PM PDT
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The new rifle with it's zoom will replace the old pistol as the cheap long range weapon.

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Know what other weapon is a one shot kill in close range, it's called a shotgun. Durr.. I hate idiots. Also the pistol wasn't too powerful, it was the most used weapon but that doesn't mean it was too powerful, it could easily be countered by almost any other weapon.

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or medium range, all you need is a lock on from 9 or so feet and just right trigger for a death, farrr to easy. the plas sword IS going to be abused.

  • 07.29.2004 4:15 PM PDT
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You cannot call a weapon cheap. thats is, for lack of a better word, noobish. Just because you cant stand up to a pistol, doesnt mean its cheap, it means u need a new plan.

  • 07.29.2004 4:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: DarkFish2k4
Guys listen why are u already assuming the carbine wasnt in the beta version. Do u even know the guns in the beta version. And secondly the engery sword is cheap because it is one hit kill in close range.


If you let som1 get that close to you....you deserve to pwned

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1. If your "friend" who tested the carbine REALLY did test it and tell you,I hop his ass gets arrested for violation of the NDA
2.The pistol definatly pissed me off,not because it killed sooooooo well (I loved it for that) It was because I,Like the other person stated) REALLLY wanted to play with other weapons, but EVERYONE used the pistol so it was kinda a go with the flow thing ;)


BTW-The sword aint cheap,You have to get close as -blam!-,It glows like fire,AND you have to wait for it to lock on to do a 1 hit kill

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For one thing Energy sword has farther range than the shotguns one hit kill. Two the pistol was easy to be good with once u nail that three hit kill. And three hold plasma rifle and shot gun (in close range) sniper rifle (far range) and rocket launcher could counter it. So actually when u think about it aint that cheap but alot of ppl think pistol was cheap gun.

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If someone lets you get within 9 feet of them without filling you full then they deserve to die. Quite frankly nobody will use the plasma sword as anything but a backup weapon to switch to when the fight gets close, and in that 1 second weapon change they could die. It'll be nice for sneaking up behind someone to kill them but so is meleeing in the back of the head. To avoid someone locking in, strafe, move.. it's no problem. It won't be overused, it might get you a couple kills before someone takes you out but so does the RL. I don't see a problem with it.

It requires timing and accuracy to get a three shot kill against someone who knows what they are doing, someone strafing constantly and popping you. No the pistol isn't cheap, the ones who believe that are the ones who constantly get owned because they have no skill with the gun and others do. The same goes for other guns tho.. like a sniper.. ppl call a sniper cheap cause he sits back and shoots without others knowing, it's not cheap, it's strategy and SKILL.

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Posted by: shadedhalo
Know what other weapon is a one shot kill in close range, it's called a shotgun. Durr.. I hate idiots. Also the pistol wasn't too powerful, it was the most used weapon but that doesn't mean it was too powerful, it could easily be countered by almost any other weapon.


The needler? I bet.
Plasma rifle? At close range only.
Plasma pistol? At close range only.
Assault rifle? At close range only.
Rocket Launcher? At close range only. It's not exactly hard to dodge at medium range.
Sniper Rifle? Only if your at a far away distance.
Shotgun? At close range only.

The pistol is my favorite weapon in the game BECAUSE it's so hard to be countered at medium range.

  • 07.29.2004 4:20 PM PDT
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I'm not saying i have a problem with it. I'm just saying u can get some easy kills just like the Rocket launcher

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  • 07.29.2004 4:21 PM PDT
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Nothing is "cheap", "Cheap" is a relative word people use to make themselves feel better when they get their asses whooped. Like, "CHEAP, YOU PICKED UP A BETTER GUN THAN ME AND KILLED ME!". If you don't want to get owned by a pistol, use your own pistol, and if you still get beat, then that means that theres someone whose better than you. Theres a difference between fustrated about losing, and cheap. Cheap/haxx0rz is manipulating the system to how the company doesn't want the game to work. So if Bungie didn't want a 3 hit kill but accidently missed it, that would be cheap. Otherwise anything is fair game, bunny hopping, tele killing (though bunny hopping is kidna useless).

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The needler? Couldn't counter a melee it sucks so bad...

Plasma rifle? shoot it sometime, you'll see it freezes your opponent, even takes off OS and with a quick switch to an AR when it overheats you can kill someone with a pistol in a matter of seconds. Shoot it while strafing, they won't be able to lock in because of the stun.

Plasma pistol? Same as PR.. just a bit harder to freeze someone with, however if you charge it up and hit your opponent with a charged blast the shield is gone, once again switch to the AR and finish off... easy. The plasma pistol is an easy counter for the pistol at medium range if you time your shot.

Assault rifle? At close range circling around someone with an AR while they have a pistol 90 percent of the time I get the kill, yes it's a close range weapon, what is your point?

Rocket Launcher? The RL can take down the pistol from medium range as well as medium-close range. It's suicide if you're too close. Simply time your shot, aim low and it's hard to avoid... if you have any skill using the RL you can easily get 4 or more kills with each pickup, wether someone has a pistol or not.. It's called being sneaky and waiting for your shot.

Sniper Rifle? You can snipe someone as close as right in front of your face if you have the skill. If you can shoot someone in the head from 15 feet away as well as 100 feet away then the pistol can't counter it, if you can't do that you deserve to die to the pistol because it is made for medium range.

Shotgun? The shotgun is to close range as the pistol is to medium, it kills quick and is made for that range.

Yes the pistol is the best medium range weapon, that doesn't mean it's overpowered... I'd like to see any of you try and play without it. We'd have either all sniper battles or races to see who can get close quicker and fire.

  • 07.29.2004 4:26 PM PDT
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THAT WAS THE E3 BUILD RETARD
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Also,according to the Mountain Dew Contest winners,there is no pistol.

Peace

  • 07.29.2004 4:29 PM PDT
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Darkfish3k4 dude Athenian guard told u not to speak about this
you are now gonna get kicked off the AG.

  • 07.29.2004 4:36 PM PDT

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