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Subject: The bee hive looks like a monitor.
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that is true. i for one think that halo 2 will comeout on the 24 there are good reason for it too. more ppl will buy it cause they won't be held back by parents cause there is no school right now. if someone has it there friends play it they will want it so they get more money cause more ppl will buy xboxes for xmas cause during september- december is shoping for xmas. so i see it as a wise choice to be sold sooner and from what i have heard and read they are close to done and are already makeing updates for TWO MONTHS AFTER IT COMES OUT. i see that as enough evidence that it will comeout the 24 and the fact that everything is pointing to the 24 so ether it is all a coincidence or it was all ment to be

  • 08.02.2004 11:56 PM PDT
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i am so bored, just sitting here alone again in the huge forum that keeps getting bigger every day looking for clues and playing my bass still. no one here you all left. lalalalalalalalalalalalalalal i am probly gonna piss off the mods and they will close this thread cause nothing happens in the wee hours of the morning

  • 08.03.2004 12:15 AM PDT
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When did Tech TV ever say there would be a Halo 2 demo? Do you have a link, the name of a program and the date by which I can watch the re-run. It's clear that Ryan McCaffrey from OXM has already stated that a demo will not be released until after the game ships. If it ships on August 24th you could be correct, but if it doesn't don't expect it to soon. OXM will be the first magazine/source by which you will get a Halo 2 demo disc. Now, they have stated several times that the new Holiday Preview issue will not be available for subscribers. It's a special issue just like the Holiday Issues which come each year, and are not included in the subscription. Instead they are issued earlier than the regular magazine for that month, and they are only sold on the newstands. The last issue which was like this covered Grand Theft Auto and came out around November/December of last year. Now, not to spoil your fanboy wet dreams, but here's a listing that I did on another site of the reasons why Halo 2 may in fact be released on August 24th...

* The blog, which was created by Microsoft/Bungie indicates that something extremely important will happen on this date, something on the same level as other major historical events.
* The date 11+09+04 if added to create a sum is the number 24.
* From August 24th to November 9th there are 11 weeks, which of course are 7 days a piece. The SPARTAN number for John, Master Chief is 117.
* The game has been tested in alpha/beta stages for the past year, sufficiently long enough to collect enough data for a release, especially based on the excessive in-house testing that has occurred at Bungie over the last two months.
* The game recently acquired its international and ESRB ratings, something that happens usually right before or after a game goes gold, not three months in advance.
* Recovering from the "delays" which have plagued the game, it would justly serve the fanbase for an early release.
* It would remove Halo 2 competition from other potential great games to be released in Fall/Winter, which would intern benefit Microsoft.
* The game was 90% complete during E3, in May. We are now three months off that date. Frank, has already said he has played through a near-complete campaign build of the game. Complete enough to be rated by the ESRB and foreign rating firms. This would indicate a game just shy of gold.
* It's the only modern game which could successfully survive and still exceed profoundly in sales with a "stealth release."
* It's a sure thing. With copies already on hold at every electronic gaming outlet, there's no need for a pre-emptive marketing ploy. Just like the ARG/blog, marketing can occur word-of-mouth with a game like this and still be successful.
* A stealth release would only secure even more of a spotlight, being that its the only one done within recent history and its being done with the most anticipated second-generation game ever. It would demand media attention just due to the covert nature of the release.
* A two-week, fourteen-day media blitz (from 08/10 to 08/24) would be much more affordable for Microsoft in promoting the game then a drawn out, five-month promotion ring for a game to be a top-seller for Christmas.
* The original "Fall" release date for the game was September 1st, before the Bungie marketing campaign at E3 2004 set an "official" release date as November 9th. The previous date is less then a week from the date in question and is closer to the original, estimated date of March - June which was set by Microsoft, based on information gathered from Bungie on the date by which they would consider the game ready to ship back in 2003.
* Bungie has not denied this as of yet. With the rampant information, it would only negatively reflect against their marketing scheme by promoting a countdown to something apparently this significantly. With thousands of fans, all over the world, now expecting this, it would behoove Bungie to allow it to be perpetuated without some sort of rebuttal simply restating the release date.
* Recent webcams have indicated that the entire staff seems to be involved in a daily meeting with men dressed in business suits. This has only started happening within the last week, indicating a drastic change in pace from their frantic activities of the "crunch-time-weeks" just prior.
* The date is a Tuesday, which is the normal date a video game ships.


I still remainn exceedingly skeptical about all of this.

[Edited on 8/3/2004 12:22:29 AM]

  • 08.03.2004 12:21 AM PDT
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that is what i am saying it all makes sense for them to release it on the 24 i think they might announce it on the 10th. everything seems to add up to 24 and i might add to much stuff to be a coincidense so there for i have am pretty sure it will come out and i also have a gut feeling about it in which i have been known to be able to likehave a feeling about something like if something is going to happen big like this.

  • 08.03.2004 12:36 AM PDT
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well now reading the whole thing i say it is real and there for i and telling everybody and giving the evidence u gave me so thank you

  • 08.03.2004 12:39 AM PDT
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The Date is a tuesday! Well duh, if it is exactly eleven weeks of course it will be on a tuesday.

Must resist...urge to...believe...conspiracy...

  • 08.03.2004 12:44 AM PDT
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yea do u believe me and that article

  • 08.03.2004 12:48 AM PDT
Subject: Hm..
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Vociferous, that info you posted certainly makes a good point, but I don't want to get my hopes up and then have my expectations crushed.

All I know is, this is going to be something related to Halo, because I mean.. this the official site, after all, somebody from Bungie would have come in and debunked ILoveBees if it really didn't mean anything. Heck, one of the mods even said that the discussion was a good thing.

  • 08.03.2004 12:52 AM PDT
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yea your rite

  • 08.03.2004 12:55 AM PDT
Subject: The bee hive looks like a monitor.
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Something IS happening on August Twenty-Fourth, but it's much more minor....http://www.tru7h.co.uk says OXM will have more new Halo 2 pictures.

  • 08.03.2004 2:04 AM PDT
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we deff know that, but more will happen i say the game comes out but lets forget it for now cause i am tired

  • 08.03.2004 2:05 AM PDT
Subject: junito
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Has anyone tried talkin to junitoNo3? Ive just talked to him...he seems quite real...probably just another hoax like No2...still...you
I didnt save the conversation...next time ill make sure i do.

ChaZ

  • 08.03.2004 2:19 AM PDT
Subject: Hmm..
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I don't believe screenshots and previews are all that's coming out on Aug 24...
Think about it..why would bungie work so hard (assuming that bungie has everything to do with ILB and the like) just to tell us that we're gonna get a new screenie in an upcoming issue of OXM? I don't get OXM anymore, but doesn't it say in the back or something what important things will be in the next issue? If it does...Bungie needn't create this whole ILB nonsense just to tell us about some new screenies. Now if a preview meant a video, that's a little different, but still Bungie went to great lengths to tell us.

http://www.cafeshops.com/ilovebees

Look at all that..why?

NOTE : I haven't read through the whole thread so if I left out something and/or am totally off track, I guess I owe you the last couple minutes of your life back.

[Edited on 8/3/2004 2:27:48 AM]

  • 08.03.2004 2:23 AM PDT
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just to end this all halo2 is coming out august 24 because the false release date (11-9-04) adds up to be 24 and as soon as you believe me remember the bible verse "i wasonce blind and now I see"

  • 08.03.2004 3:18 AM PDT
Subject: aug 24th
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i would esperately love to believe it will be released on aug 24th, but i'm still not sure it would be. I mean, WHY? why all this?

  • 08.03.2004 3:35 AM PDT
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the reason they are doing this is because they like to make us suffer

  • 08.03.2004 3:53 AM PDT
Subject: Hmm..
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Master_Chef2000: just to end this all halo2 is coming out august 24 because the false release date (11-9-04) adds up to be 24 and as soon as you believe me remember the bible verse "i wasonce blind and now I see"

This could be proving you wrong......

the quote "i wasonce blind and now I see" could be saying that we are all blind(until Aug 10th) when they announce that it has gone gold, or it is being shipped(anything in favor of early release)...then we can see(an early release).

  • 08.03.2004 3:58 AM PDT
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good info.

  • 08.03.2004 4:13 AM PDT
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Im talking to JunitoNo3. again!....Well i just have. I bloody forgot to save the conversation...anyone else had him online? He just left...his away message was "I will find him soon" .

Wierd...

ChaZ

  • 08.03.2004 6:06 AM PDT
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What time does he usually get on?

  • 08.03.2004 6:49 AM PDT
Subject: This is my opinion.
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Hello guys

First post here but I have read the whole thread, every single reply and this is my take on it.

I'm studying for a marketing degree and bungie appear to be employing a technique known as viral marketing.

Viral marketing is a technique which facilitates and encourages people to pass along a marketing message.

Viral marketing depends on a high pass-along rate from person to person. If a large percentage of recipients forward something to a large number of friends, the overall growth snowballs very quickly. If the pass-along numbers get too low, the overall growth quickly fizzles.

The reference to ilovebees.com at the end of the trailer was the start of the viral marketing campaign.

I suggest the the relevance of bees has nothing to do with anything related to halo, the flood, the covenant or otherwise.
The significance of bees is that it is often said that viral marketing creates a "buzz" about a new product or service.

Bees are said to buzz and so it is natural to make the assumtion that that was the reasoning behind choosing to center the hoax around a site concerning bees.

I do not think that there will be anyway to get information through any messaging programs as that sort of information is not accessable to everyone, and a marketing message should be.

I also do not believe that the release date will be moved forward from the date that bungie have already said.

If the game is not yet finished that means that they have not yet began to produce copies of the final game. That means that they must burn the disks, complete the documentation and package it all up.

Then they have to distribute it to all outlets that are going to sell the game.

The 24th of August is 21 days away, three weeks to do all that? I don't think it can be done as it is logistically close to impossible.

Also it makes no sense to tell the world one release date only to change it. A marketing communication must be clear and comprehendable. To change the date would not be in bungies interest because then they would have to produce another set of advertising media to say the new date. If they did not change the message to say the new date and brought the game out early, people would not know that it was available and so would not go out and buy it.

I also believe that a demo will not be available before the game is released.

A game that is anticipated so highly would be spoiled by realsing a demo. All of the hype that has been created would be ruined. A demo would not make people want to go out and get the game any more than not having a demo.

It could be argued that a demo would leave you craving more and so would make you want the game more but it could also disappoint people who were expecting more.

Spend $5 for a demo and then be disappointed? Or $40 on the full game and be disappointed?

You've got to think with your corporate heads and not eager gamer heads.

Please, if anyone disagrees, do not disrespect me or call me names, give good reasons and good counter arguments.

It is simply not good enough to reply and call me a "dooschbag" or the like for my views.

Thanks for reading this lengthy post.

[Edited on 8/3/2004 7:03:00 AM]

  • 08.03.2004 6:57 AM PDT
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Good points.

  • 08.03.2004 7:16 AM PDT
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I completely agree with you MagicChew, I was just going to post something like that, but I dont have the time..... now what are we just stuck at a deadend with this ARG?

Do we have any other leads, besides those fake AIM names?

[Edited on 8/3/2004 7:21:12 AM]

  • 08.03.2004 7:16 AM PDT
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This is my first post, and I didn't read all of this thread, but I was wondering if anyone has looked at http://www.xydexx.com/. I got there by putting in "Honey" + "SOS" + "WTF" as mentioned in the ilovebees.com blog. Anyway, the web site is a bit different today than it was yesterday. The background has the letters TEWLLOBHSFEOE highlighted. When I rearranged the letters I came up with "Follow the Bees".

The other thing that I have been looking at is the cafeshops website. When you go into the button and magnet links, the four generic pictures at the bottom look like binary.

Again I apologize if any of this is old.

Thanks

  • 08.03.2004 7:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: magichew

It is simply not good enough to reply and call me a "dooschbag" or the like for my views.

Thanks for reading this lengthy post.


I agree, I would just like to point out that you spelled Douche wrong ;)

Otherwise you have a good point, and after a minor in Entrepreneurial Studies, and writing and marketing a business myself, your assessment is Dandy!

I'd also like to ask the general audience, what made JunitoNo1 become illegitimate? I read everything and I may have missed what caused that SN to become a fake. Please elaborate for me at your leisure.

  • 08.03.2004 7:33 AM PDT