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Subject: Covenant Primer
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interesting stuff...thanky kindly frankie.

hmm...i wonder if it'd be possible to turn the hunters against the covies? THAT'D be a trip...

  • 05.02.2004 2:51 PM PDT
Subject: Jackals with Needlers
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Agreed, its like the plasma rifles with elites, there excallent at dealing with the elite shields and yet its their primary weapon

  • 05.02.2004 2:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Covenant Primer
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in the book they are saying that the prophet is marveling at the brute (previously summoned by the prophet that had just entered the room to report for duty) and so when the third person narrator says "its" (not "it's" by the way because that word is reserved only for the conjugation "it is") it refers to the brute

by the by... i kno that this reply is filled with repetitive redundencies

  • 05.02.2004 3:53 PM PDT
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it makes sense tht weapons most effective against a species would be used by tht species...
because originally isnt it likely tht the species fought among itself
for example, human weapons would be most effective against humans because they were designed to kill humans... killing another species would be its secondary function

  • 05.02.2004 4:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: theword
why does 343 guilty spark speak a human language

Because it's really hard to come up with a good believable reason that doesn't seem contrived, so you don't explain it and let people rationalize this discrepency away.

  • 05.02.2004 4:38 PM PDT
Subject: The Forerunner
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Posted by: frolnoc
Anyone notice something? I did. The Prophets are looking for Foreeunner technologies, right? That seems to be thier only and main ambition. Why then would they go out of their way to send a whole armada to attack Earth, when they know the humans are only a minor threat, especially after they destroyed Reach. I think its because they are looking for something. They are looking for Forerunner tech on Earth. Remember when 343GS called the Chief "reclaimer", thinking he was a forerunner? Well, what if the humans are the descendants of the forerunner, and Earth is like their homeworld or something. Damnit I'm good.

Lets not forget that their main reason for attacking Reach in the first place was to gain access to the Forerunner space/slipspace warping artifact. It stands to reason that Earth would have some Forerunner artifacts present especially, if Humans are the descendants of the Forerunners, then it, as you rightly said, stands to reason that Earth is a Forerunner world, if not the Forerunner homeworld due to our genetic similiarty to the other species present on it.

Of course we may of forgotten our past due to the last activation of the Halo system obliterating the Floods food, but maybe the Forerunners preserved Earth as a sort of sanctuary for themselves, not realizing that they would forget their past, or in fact intentionally making them forget their past, to stop the sins of the past being repeated. However its usally best to remember those sins to stop them being repeated :)

But that said the Covenant have basically been told, or duped, into believing that they have a "holy" war on their hands and that we "the infidels" must be destroyed to defend the purity of the Forerunners holy artifacts.

And please don't forget that your conclusions about Humans being descendants of the Forerunners have been discussed previously in this thread, let alone in other countless places in other forums on the internet. :)

  • 05.02.2004 4:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jumpmaster
This is just another theory and I'm not saying it's true, but here it goes. What if the Prophets knew we were the Forerunners, and the rest of the Covenant didn't? What if we were enemies of the Prophets in ancient times, dating back hundreds of thousands of years ago? That would explain why the Prophets return in order to defeat their ancient enemies before they regain their knowledge and wisdom? What if somehow our eyes are opened and we realize that we are the Forerunner species, and we gain all of our past technologies and posessions? Just some speculation for you.
Also in reply to someone that made a comment about the return of the Flood being stupid, well then buddy, you are in for what hell of a surprise because Jason Jones has already confirmed their return.

Its likely that, if the Humans are the Forerunners, that we shall be reminded of it soon since Cortana has absorbed the Halo Library Index, as well as the Library it seems. Once she gets the time to properly analyze it there might just be enough info in it to make that deduction. One would hope that if it does contain the history of the Forerunners then there might be a picture or 2 of them :)

As of last "First Strike" storyline the absorbed knowledge of Halo is currently compressed inside of Cortana and she hasn't had the time to analyse it properly. The presence of it as reduced her operational capacity, but no one can deny how valuable it is, and that she should do everything to keep it.

But yes, I also wouldnt be suprised that the Prophets know the real truth about the Forerunners and are using religion as a control mechanism on the other covenant species, al-la stargate... However the Covenant do seem to lack the ability to improve on the tecnologies that they discover making them less of a potent threat than what they could of been.

  • 05.02.2004 4:58 PM PDT
Subject: The Covenant Primer
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Nice article.

Now can you proofread it and put the bloody commas back where they belong, the uppity little buggers are threatening to destroy all your sentences.

  • 05.02.2004 6:22 PM PDT

Send me out with a bang...

ok.... wow I loved it and i've read the books.... eric nylund wow love him... anyways I'm really new to this bungie forums thing so If I sound lacking in info about halo please forgive me. Does anyone know if they will follow or atleast hint at the books...? I mean ya I know theres brutes and all and new armor and such. But Kelly... Linda.... Fred..... I'd die a 1000 times over if we would see/meet/fight with them. Hell even just a mention would make my day hehe. SO if anyone knows or I've missed this info before. Clue me in? Will we maybe see or hear about them...?

  • 05.02.2004 7:15 PM PDT
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Informative, yet concise. Very good. I am just wondering where you get your information.

  • 05.02.2004 11:17 PM PDT
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Very interesting thoughts my friend!

I hope for as much out of halo 2 as i got from halo 1 (and a bit more)
I'm a little usure what s'pht is tho prehaps a bit of a heads up for that hmmm?

  • 05.03.2004 3:35 AM PDT
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Dude noone has seen engineers yet, but i usually have a almost-perfect picture of one when i read the book (not bragging)

the screen on yahoo is a hack, see the URL? use ur brain Dude

  • 05.03.2004 4:45 AM PDT
Subject: Covenant Primer and some suggestions
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Posted by: Nedus
[quote]Posted by: Rolamee
good point good point. but maybe the forunners were idiots





yeah the forerunners were idiots that just happened to create whole worlds in space.yeah theyre REALLY dumb,arent they?

YOU wernt there, were you, geez, cavemen made fire, didnt they? :)

  • 05.03.2004 8:29 AM PDT
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Personally, I can't wait to face Covenant Brutes one vs. one. In the book "First Strike", it said in the last pages that they were able to rip a hunter apart. Like the part in "First Strike" when MC and his small team of Spartans were ambushed by them. He was stronger than MC even with his MJOLNIR Armor System. But, being MC, he managed to kill him with a Fragmentation grenade. Plus, when you shoot them, they just get madder and start to charge you. So i can't wait to open up a can of whoop-ass on some of those bastards! We'll see who wins that battle..

  • 05.03.2004 9:41 AM PDT
Subject: The Covenant Primer
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dis is great
Posted by: Frankie
Your guide to the inner workings of the greatest threat Humanity has ever faced, and an alien civilization that's a lot more complex than you'd think.

  • 05.03.2004 1:04 PM PDT
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there is a pic with a jackal holding a plasma rifle as well.

  • 05.03.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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You will meet the Prophets in Halo 2 and it is said that they fight in combat using their floating vehicles with weapons........

  • 05.03.2004 3:54 PM PDT
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For all of you that like Dragonball Z, think back to the origins of the Saiyan race. Saiyans were beasts that liked killing (and could change into big monkeys), and another race (forgot what the name was) were beings like humans that had great technology. They teamed up and created a strong race that demolished planets. This sounds alot like the Covenent. Elites being the Saiyans, and Prophits being the other guys. What do you think?

  • 05.03.2004 3:59 PM PDT
Subject: Covenant Primer and some suggestions

I'll be on my own side.

yeah that was the book.did you see the E3 demo??The MC took a Brute out with one melee combo and 2 bullets.

  • 05.03.2004 6:12 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

i meant to quote PhoenixRising with that last post

  • 05.03.2004 6:14 PM PDT
Subject: The Covenant Primer

I'll be on my own side.

Posted by: Samoan4431
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You will meet the Prophets in Halo 2 and it is said that they fight in combat using their floating vehicles with weapons........


where did you hear that??the depths of your Halo obsessed mind??not to say that im not obsessed with Halo,because i am.lol

  • 05.03.2004 6:16 PM PDT
Subject: Covenant Primer and some suggestions

I'll be on my own side.

YOU werent there either!!yeah fire is understandable,but cavemen figured out how to create atmosphere and giant gravity-creating machines,and build a GIANT ring like 5000 miles across,and then launch it into space??yeah thats SOOO believable,isnt it?

  • 05.03.2004 6:25 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

geez i keep forgetting to press the quote button!!that last post was to Rolamee

  • 05.03.2004 6:27 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

and dont forget the super omega ultimate megaweapon,Rolamee.

  • 05.03.2004 6:34 PM PDT
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More than likely it was on the easiest setting of the game. Even though Im sure the Developers are all Mighty and Wonderful, it might be a little tricky to have a long, uninterrupted run through of the level if the player keeps dying every three seconds =P I've seen too many clips of game demos played by the creators who can't even run 3 metres without getting themselves pounded...
"Uh...we were just...showing you the wonderful and amazing...attack prowess of our enemies...yeah...look at that AI...wow..."

  • 05.04.2004 12:14 AM PDT