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the DS cart may be 128mb, i mis read, sorry


but it is still very possible to increase the amount of storage, alot of 3rd party carts, most noteably the GBAMP (game boy advance movie player) can use compact flash carts to store and save information. (other verison can use SD) they can hold a Gigabyte (not bit) of info, perhaps more, (also nintendo has the Play-yen) (i think they are compadable to as much as 4GB cards)

the GBAMP is able to play roms of GBA, NDS games, so its possible to boot games from it (after a 3rd pary Firmware update)


nintendo could make something similar if a game such as halo ever came to it (would use the halo DS cart to boot halo from the advance cart),


i do feel its possible for a Halo DS...
...but if it would happen is a diffrent story

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  • 08.30.2005 5:02 PM PDT
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I can't imagine Halo on a portable gaming device, but you can bet on Microsoft making a handheld for games in the future. And there would probably be some knock-off of Halo for it also.

  • 08.30.2005 5:18 PM PDT
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Never. going. to. happen.

But if M$ wants to make a portable xbox im sure they will try they hardest to port it just because.

  • 08.30.2005 6:56 PM PDT
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Lemme just say a few more things:

*If the port to PC has so much -blam!- wrong with it, what makes you think another port of the same game a third time will be much better?

*The only games that may have been sold on third-party cartridges are the bible-story based games that were not licensed by nintendo. In fact, i think they just took old game carts and just reprogramed them somehow. I do not believe that third-party electronics are of great quality, period.

*No way in hell is Microsoft going to give up it's best game franchise to it's japanese competitors (who are beating the hell out of xbox).

  • 08.30.2005 10:02 PM PDT
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Yo people,

Halo on the DS, that can't happen, it's is simply not powerful enough. And people need to stop thinking that bytes are the smallest, it is bit. I wouldn't buy Halo on the DS, i'm not really into Gameboy crap and all that jazz. But one day, knowing technology that will be possible.

Spartan 012.

  • 08.31.2005 6:54 AM PDT
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Have heard rumors of Halo coming out on this but only rumors. But its not made by Nintendo or Sony so its not completly unlikely.


Btw I think given time and effort halo could be made to run on ps2. But comprimises would have to be made with textures, polygons,etc. I own one and the graphics are not as far behind as some people would have you belive.

  • 08.31.2005 7:22 AM PDT
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the PsP and gizmondo probly wouldnt get halo do to the fact that they are missing the right joystick


the DS makes up for it with the touch screen

and a water down version probly could work on the DS


Ps2 cant even play GTA without lagging up a storm, what makes u think it would play halo?

And people need to stop thinking that bytes are the smallest, it is bit.
as i stated memeory can be vasty upgraded with the use of the GBA slot on the DS


*The only games that may have been sold on third-party cartridges are the bible-story based games that were not licensed by nintendo. In fact, i think they just took old game carts and just reprogramed them somehow. I do not believe that third-party electronics are of great quality, period.


1st) the carts im talking of are compact flash, and nintendo\panasonic could make one just for the use of Halo DS, it could increase the memory to 1 gigabyte, not bit

2nd) not all flash carts are "bible" based, flash carts allow you to store roms of games, and those are in bits

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  • 08.31.2005 7:33 AM PDT
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*groan* Of all the topics I have seen so far in this forum, this is the most outlandish one.

It's not going to happen. Cross your fingers, pray to God, beg Moneysoft all you want, IT WON'T HAPPEN! Go ahead. Start a petition or something up. See how much steam it gathers. Think of it this way: will Nintendo give up Mario?

You said that even PS2 can't handle it. What makes you think a DS would be able to handle it? The memory can be expanded to all you want, and will either be (1) not enough for even a basic halo, or (2) too expensive to be feasible.

If you've tried to make a Halo: Custom Edition map for multiplayer, you'll see how impossible many of your ideas are. Actual In-field experience with a game will give you better judgement.

The point: The DS is not nearly as close to powerful as is needed to run Halo. If Halo were watered down to a level that the DS could use it, it would get very boring very quickly. And you're talking about Moneysoft's console's greatest game handed over like a gift to its competitor. MONEYSOFT! Use common sense. And let this topic die.

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  • 08.31.2005 12:58 PM PDT
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the PS2 can't handle any game becasue over all the system is poor



regaurdless of the odds if it WOULD happen,

You said that even PS2 can't handle it. What makes you think a DS would be able to handle it? The memory can be expanded to all you want, and will either be (1) not enough for even a basic halo, or (2) too expensive to be feasible


as stated halo CE took 600 somewhat megabytes, a cart could be made to hold 1 gigabyte, 1024 megabytes (not bits)

and nintendo and panasonic are close to each other so a cart such as that may not be overly expensive to construct and sell

a water down version would greaty reduce the size of the rom (game) and be allowed to be handled, yes the graphics wount being "cutting" edge, but the game play would still be (in mulit) vastly enjoyable

The point: The DS is not nearly as close to powerful as is needed to run Halo. If Halo were watered down to a level that the DS could use it, it would get very boring very quickly. And you're talking about Moneysoft's console's greatest game handed over like a gift to its competitor. MONEYSOFT! Use common sense. And let this topic die.

it wouldnt be a "gift", and i feel you are vasty undestmating what the DS could do, the point isnt if microsoft would do, the point is that it would be very kool if it did, and nice to dream of

metroid is all ready turning out to look like a great game (yes i know halo is a bit more complex)


and yes i have made my own halo maps for CE (none that you can d\l), not great maps, but arent that bad.

  • 08.31.2005 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: waba225
it wouldnt be a "gift", and i feel you are vasty undestmating what the DS could do, the point isnt if microsoft would do, the point is that it would be very kool if it did, and nice to dream of

metroid is all ready turning out to look like a great game (yes i know halo is a bit more complex)


and yes i have made my own halo maps for CE (none that you can d\l), not great maps, but arent that bad.


Dream on, then. I've made my points already.

Metroid is (admittedly) a good game, but Halo is far more complex, though. Think about it. You've got different reactions for each character in the game. You've got immense maps to play on. I'm not underestimating the DS (I'm no fanboy), but the DS is simply not powerful enough to run Halo. I've played a DS before. Even if M$ agreed to give Halo over to Nintendo for its DS, it wouldn't be worth the cost.

Firstoff, the specially designed cartridges would be pretty expensive. Especially if partnered with Panasonic. Those cards don't come cheap. Let's make the standard price for a 1GB SD card fifty dollars (It's actually much more expensive, but lets say they worked out a "deal"). Add on the fact that its a MODIFIED card that can be used for Nintendo...that's about another ten dollars added on. Then take royalties due to Bungie and to M$ for generously handing over their game. About 15-20 dollars? Then add on the 15-20 dollars for the third party to port the game.

At cheapest, in other words, HaloDS would be a whopping ninety dollars.

Now, would you rather buy about two high-quality games you can play on your TV/high-end PC, or would you spend ninety dollars for a game that you already have on your console/PC, would likely have a lot of bugs, would lag like he11, and would offer nothing outstanding (and likely worse gameplay) from its console/PC counterparts?

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  • 08.31.2005 2:13 PM PDT
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yes i amit a Halo DS is impossible (not in perferming the game), (or any other version of a portavle halo on a non mico system) unlessed we lived in that "perfect" world,

yes too many things would have to go right, regaurding royalies, license, titles, ect

creating a cart (the cart it self is very cheap (few $s to make)), the Compact flash is diffrent, and yes that is one hold back to create a cheap version (cost not quality)

nintendo and microsoft working together to make this is another set back, as well as any other comps that would need to get involved, to agree on terms and conditions for such a game (by all accont microsoft could own the game fully, and nintendo release it in the hope to sell more DS systems, to futher out the psp, though higly unlikely)


and most ppl that want a Halo DS (or any other protable halo) really only cares about multiplayer, and could care less of campain, have a lan fest on the go (so in that sense you wont need memory for campain, or AI ect



i agree with you that halo DS is impossible due to agreement problems, not performence wise, i do feel that a very decent "water down" halo would work, and vastly enjoy able (i should ask the nintendo's modding community on their views)

  • 08.31.2005 2:47 PM PDT
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It won't happen. Somebody please get this message through everyone else's thick heads! Even if the "project" was going to start, it would not be all that great. Somebody at least agree that it will NEVER HAPPEN. I'm suprised that the forum ninjas haven't locked this yet.

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  • 08.31.2005 3:28 PM PDT
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i bet u guys didnt know this but the nintendo game cube is the most powerful of the 3 consoles right now so if microsoft wer to give up bungie and bungie put halo on the game cube it wood look even better than it is now

  • 08.31.2005 4:55 PM PDT
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Do you people not understand the concept of a "dead topic?"

In other words, this is NOT, and WILL NEVER happen. Therefore, this topic is DEAD.

Now give it its well-deserved burial and let it sink down to the bottom of the forum.


DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE! LET THIS THREAD DIE!

  • 08.31.2005 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mr MA5B
It won't happen. Somebody please get this message through everyone else's thick heads! Even if the "project" was going to start, it would not be all that great. Somebody at least agree that it will NEVER HAPPEN. I'm suprised that the forum ninjas haven't locked this yet.




you are right in the fact it probly never will happen, i agree there

but i do think the DS is more then able to handle such a game


but it's aways nice to dream it, no?

as long as it follows the rules, what reason is there to lock it?

  • 08.31.2005 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: me15ter
Do you people not understand the concept of a "dead topic?"

In other words, this is NOT, and WILL NEVER happen. Therefore, this topic is DEAD.

Now give it its well-deserved burial and let it sink down to the bottom of the forum.


DON'T REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE! LET THIS THREAD DIE!



if people are still willing to post their views, then the topic isnt dead, and just becasue something may never happen isnt a reason for it to be "dead"

  • 08.31.2005 5:45 PM PDT
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after all these points on why it won't happen, i want to offer a few on why it COULD happen:

1) microsoft has said that it doesn't want to get into the handheld console business yet, but nothing about making games for handheld consoles...plus, rareware is still making games for nintendo handhelds, and oddworld is on its way to DS as well apparently

2) microsoft's main competition is sony, they have said that themselves. plus bill gates himself has even said that if nintendo were to call him he would personally answer the phone (i think this was more to do with nintendo going on sale, but i'm sure he still has alot of respect for nintendo)

3) (following on from 2) "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"...if halo hit the DS, sony would put so much focus on its PSP that microsoft would then have alot of time to put more focus on the xbox 360, which would then leave sony quite screwed on both fronts

finally, Halo DS doesn't have to be a port of Halo: CE or even have the same storyline, it could be a completely new game in the series with a completely new engine... if you want an example of good 3D models and tough AI in a DS game play NFS:U2. sure, the texture filtering may not be up to scratch but its only a first-gen game.

if Halo DS came out this time next year we would be looking at what would probably be some of the best looking DS games (take a look at some really early ps2 or xbox games and compare them to more recent games, the leap is quite amazing). i'm sure nintendo would be happy to allow MS/Bungie do a Halo title for the DS, and they may even offer to let Samus be an unlockable character for the multiplayer portion (nintendo is getting friendly with its franchises, mario is now in the GC version of SSX On Tour, and all nintendo fanboys know about Link in Soul Caliber 2)

Bungie, i know you read the forums, and this could be a rewarding challenge for you. its one thing to make a great looking game on a powerful system, but lets see a great looking game on a system not as powerful, i'm sure you can do it

  • 09.01.2005 5:49 AM PDT
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i have heard things that microsoft dosnt consider nintendo a threat



a nintendo-microsoft allience would change the gaming world (even if its all deams, and nosense thinking)
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but if halo did go to the DS it might help microsoft them the that japanese market, at the momment xbox systems are doing very poorly in japan, even the GCN is beating them


  • 09.01.2005 12:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: BON3SAW
i bet u guys didnt know this but the nintendo game cube is the most powerful of the 3 consoles right now so if microsoft wer to give up bungie and bungie put halo on the game cube it wood look even better than it is now

I'm going to say this as nicely as I possibly can:

Xbox is the most powerful console, not Gamecube. I really wish it was the other way around, but it isn't. I will tell you, that PS2 over-promises and under-delivers in terms of performance.

  • 09.01.2005 3:51 PM PDT
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I'm going to say this as nicely as I possibly can:

Xbox is the most powerful console, not Gamecube. I really wish it was the other way around, but it isn't. I will tell you, that PS2 over-promises and under-delivers in terms of performance.



that is nothing more then one's view

ill agree the Ps2 under performs

but when it comes to GCN and Xbox on what one is more "powerfull", they will be many views

xbox may have better specs, but look at ps2 it has the specs, but lacks the perfromence

gamecube has show its more then capable of giving great graphic games such as RE and RE4, that i have yet to see on the other systems

i personly think GNC has better weather effects then the other 2 systems, water in xbox is really poor

and xbox dose have its strong sides


how did this go from DS to GCN?

  • 09.01.2005 5:14 PM PDT
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waba, if your gonna say you have heard that microsoft doesnt consider nintendo a threat, give us a link or something. I rarely believe someone unless they can prove it, or they are one of the more active members.

sebbo, a completely new game would take a while to get a new storyline. storylines dont just pop out of someones brain in an instant, they take a while to think of. Halo took at least a couple of years to make, and halo 2 took around 2 years as well. i really believe this topic has nothing to do with hpc, so it shouldnt even be in this forum.

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  • 09.01.2005 7:30 PM PDT
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i will atempt to look for a link to a creidable sorce....



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here's your link oobie10:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/610/610990p1.html
keep in mind that its pre-E3 tho and alot has happened since then

i also don't really see any other forum that this topic could belong in, and the original idea was that it would be a stripped down version of Halo PC

since a single player campaign kinda seems unlikely, how about just the multiplayer componenet using Nintendo WiFi Connection? the multiplayer itself would be huge, and in my opinion is the single biggest thing Halo has going for it (graphics isn't everything)

  • 09.01.2005 10:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sebbo
here's your link oobie10:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/610/610990p1.html
keep in mind that its pre-E3 tho and alot has happened since then

i also don't really see any other forum that this topic could belong in, and the original idea was that it would be a stripped down version of Halo PC

since a single player campaign kinda seems unlikely, how about just the multiplayer componenet using Nintendo WiFi Connection? the multiplayer itself would be huge, and in my opinion is the single biggest thing Halo has going for it (graphics isn't everything)




personly i think most ppl that want Halo DS only wants multiplayer only

that cuts back on sotrage needed

  • 09.02.2005 9:08 AM PDT

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