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Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
as i said post a link to a decent custom map to prove your point now to those of you who think i don't own any pc games if you have halo 2 vista i'll meet you any time you want i also have halo ce but i lost my disk so i'll just play blood gulch trial
now I'm a map maker and i know the difference between the halo ce engine and the h2v engine and one thing has to be acknowledged and that is that most of the halo ce map makers are far better than the h2v ones but that doesn't mean their maps are better because what makes the h2v maps better is the light compiling software that was given with the game the mods for vehicles look like fun but i doubt there are many people playing halo custom edition any more


Have you ever heard of grammar? People would respect you more if you typed properly. Also use periods So people know where your sentences have ended.

Plus Halo Custom Edition rocks. I believe the custom maps are better than H2V custom maps because they are based on a better game: Halo Combat Evolved PC.

  • 04.15.2010 7:26 AM PDT

directive classified hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmm singed kunai agent of E.V.A. saa itte miyo oka yume no kuni

maybe an hour a night after halo 2 xbox is completely gone.

  • 04.15.2010 7:38 AM PDT

my goodness yes i have heard of grammar but i don't feel the need to punctuate my sentences thoroughly on a game forum!

yes i do have to agree with you halo ce custom maps are probably a lot of fun but i never said they weren't i said that they didn't have the same visual appeal as h2v

@the guy above me: you have h2v and h2x?

  • 04.15.2010 9:38 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Wow, less light and shadow. I love good graphics, but a good layout is more important.

Check out Yoyorast Island version 2, No Remorse, CMT Snow Grove, CMT Fragment version 2. Those are the ones I can think of right away that look good and play well. Except Yoyorast Island. That one's only good if you're high.

[Edited on 04.15.2010 9:57 AM PDT]

  • 04.15.2010 9:55 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
as i said post a link to a decent custom map to prove your point

I shouldn't have to. If you've ever touched CE, you already know about New Mombasa Classic and Yoyorast Island, both of which provide better visuals than any H2 map.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
now to those of you who think i don't own any pc games if you have halo 2 vista i'll meet you any time you want

Or we could play a game that's not a complete piece of trash. If you think you're a PC gamer just because you play Halo, you're an idiot.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
now I'm a map maker and i know the difference between the halo ce engine and the h2v engine and one thing has to be acknowledged and that is that most of the halo ce map makers are far better than the h2v ones but that doesn't mean their maps are better because what makes the h2v maps better is the light compiling software that was given with the game the mods for vehicles look like fun but i doubt there are many people playing halo custom edition any more

I doubt all of this, as being a competent mapper requires intellect, which is clearly something you lack.

  • 04.15.2010 11:06 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

I've seen some halo 2 pc maps with good graphics, like narrows, which has a lot of bloom effects. But who cares about the graphics, Gameplay is what counts. And halo pc has far better gameplay.

Also, go compare the player number of halo PC/ce to h2v. Heck, halo pc even had more players then halo 2 xbox before they announced the halo 2 shutdown.

And why are the CE map makers better? Because the map editor for halo pc does not suck!

[Edited on 04.16.2010 6:04 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 6:03 AM PDT

ok there little buddy take it easy there is no need to insult anyone, fist off we have a version of new Mombassa that is ten times better than yours here http://h2v.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=2342 so you don't feel the need to post a link probably because i'm not worth you time right? but you still respond to my posts with your insults(which takes time) when you finally post a link to a halo ce map with good graphics i will post 2 more h2v with better graphics, now there are reasons why not many play h2v when it came out halo 3 had already been out for like a month so people could either buy a new computer to play a game with outdated graphics or buy an xbox for less than half the cost and play the latest game. it does take more to make a great game than good graphics, a good layout and game play is very important and if you play h2v it has all of those our version of blood gulch is immensely superior the bases are bigger and there are more places to hide in the middle of the map, check out halo wiki/halo 2 and you can see all of our maps and they have awesome gameplay if h2 had come out on xp/vista it would have been more popular than any other pc game at its time in fact if you guys had windows vista you would probably be playing with me on the weekends, there is no shame in not having the latest gadgets but don't go around insulting things you don't know anything about, i myself played halo ce for years and when i got h2v i had no reason to go back and while i'm sure that you guys still have fun playing halo ce i'm sticking with h2v from here on its just a matter of taste

  • 04.16.2010 7:03 AM PDT

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
Ok there little buddy, take it easy. There's no need to insult anyone. First off we have a version of New Mombassa that is ten times better than yours here.

Two, you don't feel the need to post a link probably because I'm not worth your time right? But you still respond to my posts with your insults(which takes time.) When you finally post a link to a halo ce map with good graphics, I'll post two more h2v with better graphics.

Now there are reasons why not a lot of people play h2v when it came out. Halo 3 had already been out for like a month so people could either buy a new computer to play a game with outdated graphics or buy an xbox for less than half the cost and play the latest game.

It does take more to make a great game than good graphics. A good layout and game play is very important, and if you play h2v it has all of those. Our version of Blood Gulch is immensely superior. The bases are bigger and there are more places to hide in the middle of the map. Check out halo wiki/halo 2 and you can see all of our maps and they have awesome gameplay.

If h2 had come out on XP/Vista it would have been more popular than any other pc game at its time in fact if you guys had Windows Vista you would probably be playing with me on the weekends. There's no shame in not having the latest gadgets but don't go around insulting things you don't know anything about.

I myself played Halo CE for years and when I got h2v I had no reason to go back. And while I'm sure that you guys still have fun playing Halo CE I'm sticking with h2v from here on I guess it's just a matter of taste.


I did my best.

And even if H2V was on both XP and Vista, I doubt it would've been any better.

  • 04.16.2010 7:41 AM PDT

it has more recent graphics and it has friend lists and achievements i'm pretty sure a lot of people would have bought it


[Edited on 04.16.2010 9:03 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 8:58 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
ok there little buddy take it easy there is no need to insult anyone, fist off we have a version of new Mombassa that is ten times better than yours here http://h2v.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=2342

That looks like ass compared to the one on CE. Atmospheric lighting and attention to detail is far better than a bunch of oddly-placed blocks with all textures being unlit, not to mention not having a skybox at all. Clearly Kills Alone has no idea what the hell he's doing.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
so you don't feel the need to post a link probably because i'm not worth you time right?

I didn't post a link because anyone who has played CE knows of that map already. So I shouldn't have to. But you're right; My mistake. I assumed you actually knew what you were talking about.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
but you still respond to my posts with your insults(which takes time) when you finally post a link to a halo ce map with good graphics i will post 2 more h2v with better graphics,

Doubt it. Nobody would take the time developing a good map for H2V, because like I said before, it takes intellect to make a good map. And anyone with an IQ over 80 knows that Halo 2 is a complete piece of trash.

The map you linked is a prime example of this.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
now there are reasons why not many play h2v when it came out

Yeah. The game sucks.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
halo 3 had already been out for like a month so people could either buy a new computer to play a game with outdated graphics or buy an xbox for less than half the cost and play the latest game.

Or they already had a PC previously and knew what a good PC game consisted of, and H2 didn't have those qualities. I can see why you wouldn't know that, though. You clearly don't know anything when it comes to PC gaming.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
it does take more to make a great game than good graphics, a good layout and game play is very important and if you play h2v it has all of those

You seriously think that H2 has better gameplay? Wow. All credibility that you may have been clinging to previously is now gone.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
our version of blood gulch is immensely superior the bases are bigger and there are more places to hide in the middle of the map,

Hiding is good. We need a game with more hiding. Don't bother shooting people. That's bad. Hiding like a wuss is the way to play FPS games. /sarcasm

Joking aside, never been a fan of BG, but Coag is just garbage.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
check out halo wiki/halo 2 and you can see all of our maps and they have awesome gameplay if h2 had come out on xp/vista it would have been more popular than any other pc game at its time

That's by far the stupidest thing that has ever been posted on this forum. You seriously believe that Halo 2 Vista, a game so noobified that a 3-year-old could excel at it, a game that has an aimbot built into the engine itself, a game where you could miss an opponent's head by 3 feet and it would still register a headshot, would actually be more popular than games that were already well established and heralded all around for their superior gameplay? Do you REALLY believe that every CS:S, UT'99 and 2k4, TF, and HL player would have wrenched themselves away from games like that to play a piece of trash port like H2V? If your answer to this question is yes, please sell your computer to someone who will put it to better use. Like my dog.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
in fact if you guys had windows vista you would probably be playing with me on the weekends, there is no shame in not having the latest gadgets

Actually, most people here are up to Win7. And most of them will pretty much echo what I'm saying here.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
but don't go around insulting things you don't know anything about,

So, we don't know what you're talking about, and you do? We have a word for that.

Posted by: StatutoryTrOy
i myself played halo ce for years and when i got h2v i had no reason to go back and while i'm sure that you guys still have fun playing halo ce i'm sticking with h2v from here on its just a matter of taste

Sounds like someone got raped and decided to go with the game that aims for him. But it's okay, it's just a matter of you being absolute crap at PC FPS games.

Well, that was fun. xD If anyone needs me, I'll be playing Bad Company 2, reveling in a fun, well-designed game that actually takes some cajones to play.

[Edited on 04.16.2010 9:53 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 9:51 AM PDT

StatutoryTrOy go back to the MM forums you brainwashed freak.
if you honestly want to follow a power hungry tyrant who bans people because they lag then be my guest. but don't bring your shti here and say that the MM community is god when in reality it's just mostly full of overly obsessed gamers that care about their e-peanus size and the 14 year old nublets who follow them around.

And honestly all you nubs who bash halo2 I recommend you stop it's a great game to play, only major problem is the browserlist not loading sometimes other than that you all can stop your biatching and ENCOURAGE more people to buy the game instead of shoeing them away.

-END RANT-

[Edited on 04.16.2010 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 10:07 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: AsK Magic
And honestly all you nubs who bash halo2 I recommend you stop it's a great game to play, only major problem is the browserlist not loading sometimes other than that you all can stop your biatching and ENCOURAGE more people to buy the game instead of shoeing them away.

Why would I do that when I can encourage people to buy games that are actually good?

  • 04.16.2010 10:16 AM PDT

ok name 1 thing bad about halo2vista besides the browserlist issue or join lag.

  • 04.16.2010 10:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: AsK Magic
ok name 1 thing bad about halo2vista besides the browserlist issue or join lag.
failing H2EK.

  • 04.16.2010 10:56 AM PDT

directive classified hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmm singed kunai agent of E.V.A. saa itte miyo oka yume no kuni

hog turret is broke but i still like halo 2 better than halo 3.

  • 04.16.2010 11:03 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: AsK Magic
ok name 1 thing bad about halo2vista besides the browserlist issue or join lag.

You mean besides the built-in aimbot, ridiculously huge hitboxes, magnetic bullets, lack of fall damage, terrible graphics optimization, lack of an anti-cheat, lack of support from the developers, imbalanced gameplay that favors heavy-whoring and camping, terrible keyboard and mouse support, an editing kit that's utter garbage, lack of functionality on any OS other than Vista, and a community who thinks they're God's gift to gaming when they'd get facerolled in a game that takes any sort of skill to play?

  • 04.16.2010 11:33 AM PDT
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firstly its "how MANY people play Halo 2 Vista"
secondly Halo 2 Vista has the custom map option and apart from that its almost pixel perfect (except that it's gotten rid of 2 of the most useless maps)
I don't see why people don't like it and it's that irrational hatred that means hardly anyone plays it. Which annoys me, when you consider that H2 for the xbox is dead and I still want to play H2 online...

  • 04.16.2010 11:41 AM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: DuRgEy
firstly its "how MANY people play Halo 2 Vista"
secondly Halo 2 Vista has the custom map option and apart from that its almost pixel perfect

LOL.

  • 04.16.2010 11:44 AM PDT

Posted by: Moifugley
failing H2EK.

stop talking about that it was way more advanced than HEK when it first came out. Halo CE had the same problems but they were worse but over time we cracked. There have been lots of advances like for example multiplayer modding might be possible soon so seriously compared to Halo CE H2EK beats HEK in initial releases.

Posted by: kunai9190
hog turret is broke but i still like halo 2 better than halo 3.
lol it's not broke it works just fine...

Posted by: DusK
You mean besides the built-in aimbot,

That was in Xbox too and i'm working on making aim assist work for m/k users just give me time

Posted by: DusK
ridiculously huge hitboxes, magnetic bullets, lack of fall damage,

Those were all in Halo2 Xbox and no one seemed to mind it so that's not an issue

Posted by: DusK
terrible graphics optimization,

Halo 2 Vista's graphics are far superior to Halo 2 Xbox's graphics.
Link to proof http://www.gamespot.com/features/6169711/index.html

Posted by: DusK
lack of an anti-cheat, lack of support from the developers

That my friend is because Microsoft's Hired Gun did not anticipate the rise of hacking in Halo 2 and they did not have a chance to act upon it due to their team being split up for more important projects according to Microsoft

Posted by: DusK
imbalanced gameplay that favors heavy-whoring and camping

that is solely up to the server hosters

Posted by: DusK
terrible keyboard and mouse support

I don't see whats so wrong with m/k other than the lack of aim assist m/k supports fully customization towards keys per command, you can have even 2 different keys for one function that's a lot more than what the xbox 360 controller can do it only can do 1 button per function

Posted by: DusK
an editing kit that's utter garbage

see above

Posted by: DusK
lack of functionality on any OS other than Vista

so you have my on this one... yeah it was a stupid idea not to let it support XP but at the same time it was a marketing strategy to in courage people to upgrade to Vista, they were also testing their new tray and play feature.

Posted by: DusK
and a community who thinks they're God's gift to gaming when they'd get facerolled in a game that takes any sort of skill to play?

that is mainly due to the constant battle between MM and AsK, I'm not going into details on that but short story short Moose and Co ban for ridiculous things and AsK speak out against it, that's it. Also we have to constant battle of hackers too.

[Edited on 04.16.2010 12:22 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 11:53 AM PDT

directive classified hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmm singed kunai agent of E.V.A. saa itte miyo oka yume no kuni

it broken in that when hog is moving turret is all over the place but i realy dont care my favorite map is turf not realy a vehicle map and favorite halo is 2 i could never hate it i do wish we had more support from bungie/M$/hirred gun

[Edited on 04.16.2010 12:05 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 12:04 PM PDT
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Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(That was in Xbox too and i'm working on making aim assist work for m/k users just give me time)

So you're plan is to noobify the game EVEN MORE. That's stupid. I would think it a better move to make a server-side app that auto-kicks anyone who enters with a controller.

Posted by: AsK Magic
ridiculously huge hitboxes, magnetic bullets, lack of fall damage,
(Those were all in Halo2 Xbox and no one seemed to mind it so that's not an issue)

Anyone who knew what a good FPS was minded it. That's why they played PC games instead.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(Halo 2 Vista's graphics are far superior to Halo 2 Xbox's graphics
Link to proof http://www.gamespot.com/features/6169711/index.html

You're confusing optimization with base image quality. Optimization refers to how well the game runs/looks in relation to the hardware required. For example, H2V has graphics that pale in comparison to UT 2004, yet H2V requires a much more powerful PC to run than UT 2004. When a game looks like crap and runs like crap, that's bad graphics optimization.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(That my friend is because Microsoft's Hired Gun did not anticipate the rise of hacking in Halo 2 and they did not have a chance to act upon it due to their team being split up for more important projects according to Microsoft)

So, they expected the game to be popular, hyped it like crazy, and decided to not only release it without an anti-cheat, but to disband the team, preventing the development of an anti-cheat. What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(that is solely up to the server hosters)

And if said elements were taken out, you'd be left with like 10% of the gameplay. In the biz, we call that terrible game design.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(I don't see whats so wrong with m/k other than the lack of aim assist m/k supports fully customization towards keys per command, you can have even 2 different keys for one function that's a lot more than what the xbox 360 controller can do it only can do 1 button per function)

This forum is slathered with reports of problems with the mouse and keyboard.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(see above)

I did. I guess I just have high standards, even though just about every other developer's EK does better.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(so you have my on this one... yeah it was a stupid idea not to let it support XP but at the same time it was a marketing strategy to in courage people to upgrade to Vista, they were also testing their new tray and play feature.)

Which is a lot like putting a prototype weapon in a soldier's hands; It could blow up right in the soldier's face. In this case, the players' faces.

Posted by: AsK Magic
(that is mainly due to the constant battle between MM and AsK, I'm not going into details on that but short story short Moose and Co ban for ridiculous things and AsK speak out against it, that's it. Also we have to constant battle of hackers too.)

No, it's mainly due to the fact that the game seems to give an air that it's trying to feel competitive, but the noobcrap gameplay makes it deceiving in that nature.

[Edited on 04.16.2010 12:26 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2010 12:24 PM PDT

A Halo 2 Glitch Master, "retired" since i couldn't find anything good in Halo 3, hoping for a come back. I'm a huge Marathon fan too. If you want to verse me, please message me through my Bungie.net profile.
My weapon of choice is the warthog (Driving); I'm one of the best drivers out there, so if i get my hand on a vehicle, you're going to wish i hadn't XD

April 20th I became one of the final 30 people to play Halo 2 online. Unfortunately I was kicked by Microsoft that day.

Halo 2 PC is good, i'd hihgly reocmmend it. I'm sure after all 30 of us get dissconnectd we will be playing that

  • 04.16.2010 12:54 PM PDT

A Halo 2 Glitch Master, "retired" since i couldn't find anything good in Halo 3, hoping for a come back. I'm a huge Marathon fan too. If you want to verse me, please message me through my Bungie.net profile.
My weapon of choice is the warthog (Driving); I'm one of the best drivers out there, so if i get my hand on a vehicle, you're going to wish i hadn't XD

April 20th I became one of the final 30 people to play Halo 2 online. Unfortunately I was kicked by Microsoft that day.

Posted by: n357
Vista version is broken. Don't buy it. About 50 people are dedicated enough to get online to play. In other words, H2V is about as deserted as H2 Xbox, but H2V is very hard to get online with. The server browser doesn't work often.

of course if you listen to this guy, you'll miss out on n epic, amazing game

  • 04.16.2010 9:47 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

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Posted by: n357
Vista version is broken. Don't buy it. About 50 people are dedicated enough to get online to play. In other words, H2V is about as deserted as H2 Xbox, but H2V is very hard to get online with. The server browser doesn't work often.

of course if you listen to this guy, you'll miss out on n epic, amazing game

Don't be so insulting. I think after two years of struggling to get the game working I'm in my right to complain about it. If you haven't noticed, I'm not the only one.

  • 04.16.2010 10:11 PM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I liked H2X more, because it allowed me to mod the .maps, and Yelo Trainer, Xlink kai etc.

I wish the same could happen form H2V, there are no checks for modded campaign maps, and there are no checks for maps that are added to the UI itself (via hex).

H2V is a weird game, it was hard to fix/enable it on Windows 7.
non of that cryptographic stop/start & delete didn't work.

for a crossfire setup, if I were to launch with -novsync, I'd get over 500 fps, but the game itself skips, which is dumb.

HiredGun, and the H2V custom map format fails 100%

so, I won't be playing this game until there is a better EK that will grant the mod-ability as H2X.

so, yeah, waiting for someone.

AsK Magic is right in a way, MM does ban form stupid reasons, I got banned because of having the same ISP as the crasher dude, but we're on different isps now. what is he? racist?

[Edited on 04.17.2010 2:59 AM PDT]

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