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Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

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Posted by: Lord Snakie
Satire... should've known. Thought it was a troll, really, didn't pick up on the satire at all. Then again, that is what I get for refusing to join Mythic Members.
You made the right choice man.


"Let's make assumptions of a group that I have never seen the forum of"

That is what I got from that statement.

  • 04.03.2010 8:41 PM PDT

All this heated discussion about members makes me uncomfortable. Isn't there anything better to talk about than members?

  • 04.03.2010 9:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
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Posted by: Lord Snakie
Satire... should've known. Thought it was a troll, really, didn't pick up on the satire at all. Then again, that is what I get for refusing to join Mythic Members.
You made the right choice man.


"Let's make assumptions of a group that I have never seen the forum of"



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  • 04.03.2010 9:20 PM PDT

it would take to long besides who cares

  • 04.03.2010 9:30 PM PDT

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As I go through this progression, I see the original intent of the thread changing, therefore lacking in integrity. Also there is a high degree of bias here, treading on rank bating. If not, then rank baiting with polite words. Basically saying that, if you have not been here as long as me, you shouldn't be able have it. You don't deserve it.

Then I asked a question:

Since I didn't join in 2004, you are saying I should not be able to become an Exalted Mythic Member? If this is what you are saying where do you come up with this reasoning?

This question was not answered.

Instead, the OP came up with this:

Maybe this will help explain my view on the titles.
Offended that [it seems like] you think they aren't worthy of being a trusted member.No. This is where I probably look at titles differently. I don't look at them trust-wise, I look at them like "Hey, this guy has stuck around for X amount of time."

I respect dedication and time invested, which is what the titles mean to me. I base my trust on the individual.
Isn't this similar to the direction that Bungie has taken with Halo: Reach 'ranks'?[


Well that is not the way it works and fails to answer the question. These forums do not equal the game we play (Halo3, Halo:Reach) on our Xbox 360's. I think this has been stated many times before.

Then there is the singling out of people from 2008. (see quotes below) Why people from 2008?

Basically, this whole thing states that if you were not here by a certain time, you should not be able to be like us. It's a "You people" statement.

The current system is based on trust and longevity. If it takes four years (example number) to make Mythic with a low ban count, so be it. Members should not be penalized for not joining by a certain date. Titles will come in due time according to your behavior and the longevity of that said behavior. That is fair and just.

Of course all titles could be removed and this sort of thing would not be an issue. I say again though:

Members should not be penalized for not joining by a certain date.

Delta



Posted by: Skibur
With the ageing Bungie.net population and the already high number of Mythic Members, I think that we need to implement a number of new titles which are (see edit) than Mythic Member.
It's not as special being Mythic when pretty soon members who registered in 2008 will be given the title.

Suggestions for new titles and general discussion is welcome.

EDIT: These new titles would need to be added between Member and Heroic, Heroic and Legendary and Legendary and Mythic.
We shouldn't have anything higher than Mythic. (There is nothing higher than Mythic)


Posted by: Skibur
Posted by: a rascal cat
Wait so do you mean that they should just keep it at a Mythic Member instead of maybe a Fabled Mythic Member or Exalted Mythic Member?
No. The prefixes are fine and should remain, but the base titles should be increased to say, seven (from four).

Posted by: cRaZyT101
what's wrong with us '08 members? :(
Nothing, it's just that the title should be reserved for those who have been around for much longer.
See, join date aside, we have had more experience on here through the highs and lows. We know more about the community, we know more people, we are part of an elite club, the Mythic club.

2008 members (an all other members) are part of an elite club in their own right, but not part of ours, in my opinion.


Posted by: Skibur
Posted by: Delta 15t
You do your time here as a good member, you get your appropriate title. That is the way it works.
Yes, but won't those who were at Sargent when the new guys joined have moved up to an even higher rank by the time they reach Sargent?
Unfortunately we don't have anything higher, so it's unbalanced, IMO.

Anyway, I didn't mean anything by the war analogy, I was just trying to say that you can't become something that you never were.

Let me post a different analogy: The winner of the 'fun run 2009' can't also have the title for 'fun run 2008' if they didn't participate. That would be unfair to everyone who did participate in '08'.


Posted by: Delta 15t
I'm not worried about the war thing.

So, I joined in 2006...again.(I had an account back in 2001 didn't use it. Signed up in 2004 but got deployed several times...bla bla bla) Since I didn't join in 2004, you are saying I should not be able to become an Exalted Mythic Member? If this is what you are saying where do you come up with this reasoning?

Delta

Posted by: Skibur
Posted by: Delta 15t
You do your time here as a good member, you get your appropriate title. That is the way it works.
Yes, but won't those who were at Sargent when the new guys joined have moved up to an even higher rank by the time they reach Sargent?
Unfortunately we don't have anything higher, so it's unbalanced, IMO.

Anyway, I didn't mean anything by the war analogy, I was just trying to say that you can't become something that you never were.

Let me post a different analogy: The winner of the 'fun run 2009' can't also have the title for 'fun run 2008' if they didn't participate. That would be unfair to everyone who did participate in '08'.


Posted by: Skibur
Maybe this will help explain my view on the titles.
Offended that [it seems like] you think they aren't worthy of being a trusted member.No. This is where I probably look at titles differently. I don't look at them trust-wise, I look at them like "Hey, this guy has stuck around for X amount of time."

I respect dedication and time invested, which is what the titles mean to me. I base my trust on the individual.
Isn't this similar to the direction that Bungie has taken with Halo: Reach 'ranks'?

  • 04.03.2010 9:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Delta 15t


Yep, and all that is why people felt the need to report the OP to the point where it was hidden.

Well until a mod rescinded that because of who the OP is.

and they call 50s elitist

  • 04.03.2010 9:49 PM PDT

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Exalted Mythic should be changed to "the most nerdy"
YES!


I support this idea.

  • 04.03.2010 9:52 PM PDT

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Can't there be only a certain number of mythic members at one time? I've always been baffled by the system to be honest.

  • 04.03.2010 10:00 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

Posted by: Vgnut117
Can't there be only a certain number of mythic members at one time? I've always been baffled by the system to be honest.


It is either 200 or a number ~200.

  • 04.03.2010 10:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: SV Cooper
Posted by: Delta 15t


Yep, and all that is why people felt the need to report the OP to the point where it was hidden.

Well until a mod rescinded that because of who the OP is.

and they call 50s elitist


Well, being a Legendary member, I am not going to say that because so and so didn't join when I did, they can't be like me.

Actually the opposite. All those members that want to have a different member tile, just play nice, read a lot of posts and just reply to ones of interest politely. That's all you have to do. Also, don't take anything personally or you are through.

Every member here has the potential of being a good member. I had to learn it and I am still learning. I am no better than anyone here. I try to encourage good behavior. Nicer things result.

Delta

  • 04.03.2010 10:08 PM PDT

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I agree

[Edited on 04.03.2010 10:15 PM PDT]

  • 04.03.2010 10:15 PM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

I think some of you missed the part where the proposed title is less than Mythic. That would mean that the highest attainable title is still attainable by newer members.

  • 04.03.2010 10:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Possibly just have two different shades of colour for each title. A lower and a higher.
Low Mythic (dark blue), High Mythic (lighter blue), etc.

:/

  • 04.03.2010 10:23 PM PDT

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This statement was made by the OP:

I was just trying to say that you can't become something that you never were.

I got the point there.

Delta

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
I think some of you missed the part where the proposed title is less than Mythic. That would mean that the highest attainable title is still attainable by newer members.




[Edited on 04.03.2010 10:44 PM PDT]

  • 04.03.2010 10:38 PM PDT

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No offense, but I don't think you're the armor 'king'.
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  • 04.03.2010 11:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Posted by: Vgnut117
Can't there be only a certain number of mythic members at one time? I've always been baffled by the system to be honest.


It is either 200 or a number ~200.

I think the cap got lifted.

  • 04.03.2010 11:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
Posted by: Vgnut117
Can't there be only a certain number of mythic members at one time? I've always been baffled by the system to be honest.
It is either 200 or a number ~200.
Then I don't think Skibur needs to worry about '08 kids becoming Mythics. Because the only way they can is if an older member loses enough trust rating to drop down from Mythic. If that's the case, then doesn't the newer generation deserve the title? If the system trusts them more than it trusts someone who has been here years more, than I'm guessing they are worthy.

This doesn't mean I disapprove of new titles, I'm all for the idea.

  • 04.03.2010 11:28 PM PDT
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Hmm, good discussion in here, but some of you have gone on crazy tangents.

Basically, my wanting of more titles may come down to this: 04 Mythic and 08 Mythic are both Mythic, but one of them has obviously put a lot more time into the website, yet they are made equal to the user who is relatively new in comparison.
That is not fair in my opinion.

Analogy time: You have been cleaning some old ladies garden for five years, and then some new kid comes and cleans it for a week. The old lady dies and leaves all her money to be divided equally between the two of you.
Fair?

  • 04.03.2010 11:34 PM PDT

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  • 04.03.2010 11:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Skibur
Analogy time: You have been cleaning some old ladies garden for five years, and then some new kid comes and cleans it for a week. The old lady dies and leaves all her money to be divided equally between the two of you.
Fair?

That is, quite possibly, the worst analogy that I have ever heard.

Personally Skib, I think you should just lay back and not worry. If the system doesn't change, then ~200 Mythics is going to be the static number and there shouldn't be too many changes in name, because most of the oldfgts are going to maintain the title; everybody might have to share what you consider limited prestige, but it'll be limited prestige that is still limited from the general masses. If the system does change, then you'll either get your way or you'll likely have to put up with the same relative percentage of Mythics across the site, which will only slightly increase as the number of users increase. Most ways Mythic is still going to be the elite, and all ways Prefixes can help to determine the "prestige differences" from Mythic user-to-user.

  • 04.03.2010 11:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Skibur
Hmm, good discussion in here, but some of you have gone on crazy tangents.

Basically, my wanting of more titles may come down to this: 04 Mythic and 08 Mythic are both Mythic, but one of them has obviously put a lot more time into the website, yet they are made equal to the user who is relatively new in comparison.
That is not fair in my opinion.

Analogy time: You have been cleaning some old ladies garden for five years, and then some new kid comes and cleans it for a week. The old lady dies and leaves all her money to be divided equally between the two of you.
Fair?


What about those members that joined in 04 but don't post much and those that joined in 08 that post all the time? How would something like that factor in?

  • 04.03.2010 11:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

I get your point Skibby. Like I said before, perhaps leave the amount of titles, but add variants of them, different colours.
So say 04 Mythic and 08 Mythic both have the title "Mythic Member" which is based on their trust rating, which is a whole lot of different things, join date being only one of the variables, now 04 Mythic's bluebar might be a different shade of blue which could be based solely on how long that member has been active in the forums. Subtle, I know, but it could work?
Probably not.

  • 04.03.2010 11:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: DR WE1RD
What about those members that joined in 04 but don't post much and those that joined in 08 that post all the time? How would something like that factor in?
Prefixes?

@Yax: That doesn't sound too bad.

[Edited on 04.03.2010 11:55 PM PDT]

  • 04.03.2010 11:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Skibur
Posted by: DR WE1RD
What about those members that joined in 04 but don't post much and those that joined in 08 that post all the time? How would something like that factor in?
Prefixes?


Even if said 08 person posted X times as much as 04 person? It would be obvious who spent more time actually participating in the site, yet because one came later than the other they don't deserve the same title? IMO title should be more based on site activity, bans, etc. than it should on join date. That's not to say that those with older accounts shouldn't have different prefixes maybe, but I don't think they deserve their own titles.

  • 04.03.2010 11:56 PM PDT

Do titles really mean this much to people? If anything I think that the Royal Blue looks ugly and should be changed to Metallic Purple.

  • 04.03.2010 11:59 PM PDT