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Subject: Bungie has gone to Far!!

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Posted by; ghostvirus
This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

I once heard the words of jaxxxx who spoke of a time in which he posted rumours he heard about halo 3 from a freind which he spoke very serious ! He was then black listed unlike any others that posted rumours ! He then created a group : halo 3 truth group

I had only just joined but I had alot of awnsers awnsered ! The leader of this group made it so you needed permision to join ! 3 of the members of this group some how got hijackked according to them and had many post that they could not account for and the styles of writeing bettween the real person and the hacker varied by ALOT . Now I come on bnet to check if he has anwsed my questions and the group is completely deleted and the group administrator deleted as if his account never exsisted !

What the -blam!- bungie ? 200 bungie fans that were helping each other get excited for the realease of halo 3 are now disapointed ! To be serious it looks like the next game in the grand theift auto series for ps3 feels much more appealing to me and a good other 120 players . Can you guess which ones ?

  • 08.04.2005 1:17 AM PDT
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?

  • 08.04.2005 1:44 AM PDT
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*sigh*

For a start, he could only have been blacklisted for breaking the rules/ignoring the moderators' advice.

Now to what seems to be your real "complaint". If you've actually read any Bnet documents, you'll know that what happens in Groups is not Bungie's business and they will not interfere. Perhaps you're under the obscene impression that Bungie were the ones who "hacked" the members' accounts; if this is the case then you are gravely mistaken. There is no way to "hack" on Bungie.net. Therefore, there are two possible explanations for the supposed "hacking"; first, malicious individuals acquired the passwords of those members; second, the members themselves were responsible and were playing a form of twisted joke.

The Group administrator was probably inactive for a while and thus automatically deleted.

And now you're trying to make Bungie feel bad because of some members' irresponsibility? It had nothing to do with them. And, forgive me for asking, how exactly did Bungie go too far? They provide groups for the community to use and stay out of them. It's not their fault that some abuse the facilities and they made that clear from the start.

  • 08.04.2005 1:50 AM PDT

Halo CE = Lan party
Halo 2 = Live
The reason so many people think halo 2 takes no skill is because in halo ce the only competition were friends in the next room. when the same people get on live, they realize they are no where close to being the best and therefore blame their loss on unbalance in the weapons and game.
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no its true, i was in the group. we posted on the forums about the halo3 weapons, maps, story, and characters. but then the moderators came in and deleted all our posts sayin that we were "spreadin rumors" and deleted our group and had jaxx blacklisted again right after we ws unblacklisted from releilin info before. i posed some stuff but the mods just deleted them sayin that we were spreadin rumors even though we never said that it was real concrete info, so how is that spreadin rumors? and bungie did affect our group and deleted it. the mods just called us and everyone that beleived us gullible idiots. jaxx even talked to shishka that he would stop as long as shishka asked im to but shishka didnt and just went on insultin him.

whats funny is all around that forum there r a lot of rumor posts about halo3 that shishka and many others didnt even take a second look at.

  • 08.04.2005 2:46 AM PDT

You see, AJSmanhunter, there is a difference between what Jaxx and his band of gullible followers were doing and what everybody else is doing. Jaxx is lying and saying that this is leaked information straight from Bungie, whereas others are admitting that they are just creating theories. Do you see the difference? Jaxx is attempting to spread rumors about the "truth" of Halo 3 and the others are just attempting to figure out what might happen.

And he and anybody else who attempted to start rumors could and should be blacklisted. Frankly, I am amazed that you have not been blacklisted for all of the threads that you cross-posted in The Underground and New Mombasa yesterday.

Edit: And about this statement:
Posted by: ghostvirus
What the -blam!- bungie ? 200 bungie fans that were helping each other get excited for the realease of halo 3 are now disapointed ! To be serious it looks like the next game in the grand theift auto series for ps3 feels much more appealing to me and a good other 120 players . Can you guess which ones ?

First you say 200, then you say 120? You know, I took a look at that group last night and there were 41 members.

84% of all statistics are made up on the spot...

[Edited on 8/4/2005]

  • 08.04.2005 2:58 AM PDT

Halo CE = Lan party
Halo 2 = Live
The reason so many people think halo 2 takes no skill is because in halo ce the only competition were friends in the next room. when the same people get on live, they realize they are no where close to being the best and therefore blame their loss on unbalance in the weapons and game.
Ω The Halo Map Makers Ω

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no, what jaxx said was that it was concrete info, and that he wasnt even tryin to spread it just give hints out there, well im the one that spreaded it and posted it all ove the forums but yet jaxx was the one that got blacklisted and not me. he even talked to shishka and said that he would stop if shishka just asked him. but shishka just insulted him and blacklisted him to get him to stop. so then he created a group then i read all about this stuff, he even has a website about it, but he asked me not to spread that one around. it would of stopped a long time ago if shishka wasnt a complete ass and just asked him to stop instead of all the insultin and blacklistin.

  • 08.04.2005 3:08 AM PDT

Discipline is my Sword,
Faith is my Shield,
Do not leap blindly into uncertainty,
And you may live to reap the rewards.

"The Important Thing Is To Never Stop Questioning,"

You know the funny thing is, Bungie.net Moderators have no Powers in Groups/Chapters. Only Achronos has powers in Chapters, where he’s not given hem. So this makes your whole story a lie. Moderators can’t just join Groups and delete posts; they have no powers in them unless the Founder gives them to them. I suggest you stop spreading more rumors and trying to defile Bungie's good name. Its grounds to get YOU a Blacklisting.

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  • 08.04.2005 3:29 AM PDT

Halo CE = Lan party
Halo 2 = Live
The reason so many people think halo 2 takes no skill is because in halo ce the only competition were friends in the next room. when the same people get on live, they realize they are no where close to being the best and therefore blame their loss on unbalance in the weapons and game.
Ω The Halo Map Makers Ω

my gamercard

im not spreadin rumors!!! fine, im not sure about the whole group deletion thing but they did delete my halo3 idea posts of the info that i got from jaxx, he had been blacklisted before for givin away info on the game, but as soon as he got back on he just posteed a coule of times in my forums and all of the sudden i look back and all his posts rnt there, they dont say "this post has been delted by a moderator or that the paerson has been blacklisted" all his posts r just gone and he got blacklisted again for not even spreadin rumors this time, if any one should be blacklisted it shouldve been me and not jaxx, but he was singled out and had been blacklisted for releasin info on halo3, he wasnty blacklisted for spreadin rumors, i would of been the one for that, but was blacklisted for tellin a possible truth of halo3.

  • 08.04.2005 3:37 AM PDT

Posted by: AJSmanhunter
no, what jaxx said was that it was concrete info, and that he wasnt even tryin to spread it just give hints out there, well im the one that spreaded it and posted it all ove the forums but yet jaxx was the one that got blacklisted and not me.

Once again, it is not concrete information. It is complete falsehoods that he is attempting to pass off as concrete information. That is a blacklistable offence, just read what Shishka said at the end of this thread. Everybody else has theories, which are OK.
Posted by: AJSmanhunter
...but he was singled out and had been blacklisted for releasin info on halo3, he wasnty blacklisted for spreadin rumors, i would of been the one for that, but was blacklisted for tellin a possible truth of halo3.

No, not for having possible "truth of halo3", but for spreading fake rumors. Once again, read what Shishka said in the thread I linked above.

  • 08.04.2005 3:52 AM PDT

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..deleted for spreading rumors.

Funny my group is called The Rumor mill. of course that is just a general title because we talk about anything and everything. However I see alot of Threads about HAL0 3 rumors and HAL0 3 story, and HAL0 3 stuff. and not one of them got locked unless it was bumped or said it would suck worst than H2.

  • 08.04.2005 3:55 AM PDT

But marinealver, you nor anybody else is saying "this is concrete information from a leak in Bungie". That is what Jaxx is saying, which is obviously harmful because people who are gullible enough to believe him spread the rumors even more.

  • 08.04.2005 3:58 AM PDT

Discipline is my Sword,
Faith is my Shield,
Do not leap blindly into uncertainty,
And you may live to reap the rewards.

"The Important Thing Is To Never Stop Questioning,"

Posted by: AJSmanhunter
im not spreadin rumors!!! fine, im not sure about the whole group deletion thing but they did delete my halo3 idea posts of the info that i got from jaxx, he had been blacklisted before for givin away info on the game, but as soon as he got back on he just posteed a coule of times in my forums and all of the sudden i look back and all his posts rnt there, they dont say "this post has been delted by a moderator or that the paerson has been blacklisted" all his posts r just gone and he got blacklisted again for not even spreadin rumors this time, if any one should be blacklisted it shouldve been me and not jaxx, but he was singled out and had been blacklisted for releasin info on halo3, he wasnty blacklisted for spreadin rumors, i would of been the one for that, but was blacklisted for tellin a possible truth of halo3.


Oh, so now you’re not so sure about the Group thing huh? But when you first came in here you were so sure you were spitting it out like fact. Now it's changed huh? Maybe it's throwing around accusations like this that got your friend blacklisted? Hmm, no that couldn't be, why that makes sense and all so it couldn't be the answer. Yes, Bungie and the Mods are corrupt!

Think before you speak/post people.


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Posted by: marinealver
..deleted for spreading rumors.

Funny my group is called The Rumor mill. of course that is just a general title because we talk about anything and everything.


And there you have it. You call it rumors, and your chapter isn't called "solid information mill".

  • 08.04.2005 4:48 AM PDT

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To be blunt, I'm glad.

The rumour mills have been running too long without check, creating absurd expectations and hyping up the gullible until they're intolerable. That this "Jaxx" guy was pretending to have inside information and was doling it out to the True Believers goes beyond rumour-mongering; it starts entering into the realm of Fraud. Bungie has ALWAYS blacklisted members for misrepresenting themselves as employees or staff... why not for this, too?

It's one thing to speculate on what may be coming, and to keep in mind that it is speculation; it's another thing entirely to pretend that you know what's going to happen and then spread lies based upon that pretense. It's bad enough when people forget that their guesses are just guesses; anybody remember the Single Player Demo Release fiasco this time last year? To have somebody deliberately engineering something similar verges onto the criminal.

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  • 08.04.2005 6:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: Shishka
The spread of misinformation is punishable by blacklisting, I hope you know.

That is a quote from shiska in this thread.

Posted by: ghostvirus
I once heard the words of jaxxxx who spoke of a time in which he posted rumours he heard about halo 3 from a freind which he spoke very serious ! He was then black listed unlike any others that posted rumours ! He then created a group : halo 3 truth group

Now you see why he was blacklisted, becuase he violated the rules. He was spreading false information about a game that the company hasn't even confirmed yet. Let alone he was doing it on There Own website. And if bungie really did get rid of his group, then they most likely saw something you didn't. Bungie hasn't gone to far at all. You have...

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  • 08.04.2005 6:45 AM PDT

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3 of the members of this group some how got hijackked according to them and had many post that they could not account for and the styles of writeing bettween the real person and the hacker varied by ALOT

1) You can't hijack anyone.
2) You can't hack a group.

  • 08.04.2005 7:05 AM PDT

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And I guess in some way your group broke them

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Common sense...is not so common, unfortunately.

  • 08.04.2005 7:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: ghostvirus
I once heard the words of jaxxxx who spoke of a time in which he posted rumours he heard about halo 3 from a freind which he spoke very serious ! He was then black listed unlike any others that posted rumours ! He then created a group : halo 3 truth group
I had only just joined but I had alot of awnsers awnsered !
Posted by: AJSmanhunter
no, what jaxx said was that it was concrete info, and that he wasnt even tryin to spread it just give hints out there, well im the one that spreaded it and posted it all ove the forums but yet jaxx was the one that got blacklisted and not me. he even talked to shishka and said that he would stop if shishka just asked him. but shishka just insulted him and blacklisted him to get him to stop. so then he created a group then i read all about this stuff, he even has a website about it, but he asked me not to spread that one around. it would of stopped a long time ago if shishka wasnt a complete ass and just asked him to stop instead of all the insultin and blacklistin.
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  • 08.04.2005 7:49 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

did you ever consider the fact that groups have their own mods, and maybe they were bored and deleted you all?

  • 08.04.2005 12:06 PM PDT

-S

The moderators didn't do jack. Jaxx did all of that himself.

  • 08.04.2005 12:18 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

also, why would the mods waste time moderating a group forum about Halo 3? if they wanted to stop Halo 3 discussion, they would have a hell of a lot of work to do. it had to be a rogue mod in Jaxx's group, or even Jaxx himself

  • 08.04.2005 12:26 PM PDT

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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Here's what happened...

1. Jaxx states he has "inside information" and passes it off as truth. Speculation is fine, but declaring something as truth is called "lying" and gets you banned.
2. Jaxx then starts a group under the same premise, and gets his members to post the same crap to the forums that he was just blacklisted for.
3. The moderators notice, and warn the group.
4. At some point here, Jaxx disbands his own group.

I'm sorry the truth is so boring, but that's what happened.

[Edited on 8/4/2005]

  • 08.04.2005 12:52 PM PDT
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What he said ^^

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  • 08.04.2005 12:56 PM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Aww... I was hoping for a thundering voice somewhere. Or at least some flaming. Wait- idd the mods warn the group in a thunderous voice? Because that would rock.

  • 08.04.2005 12:57 PM PDT

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