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Look guys,

Halo 2 was (and still is) an amazingly fantastic game. I played it for years (yes I took a break for Halo 3) but came back in March when I heard they were shutting down the original xbox live service.

But guess what. My last game was on 4/14 (though I wish I could have had just a few more the next day).

My point is that I just do not understand what is motivating people to keep their xbox running to play a game on XBOX live no one else can play. The game is already on the PC (it is has a map editor and online play) and there is such a thing as xbox connect to play over the internet on your xbox. So why are all you guys insisting on playing over Live???

I do not see why you feel you have to honor a video game which you can still play elsewhere. Personally, I think the point is that the people still playing want some sort of recognition. They want bungie to say something about them, or give them something, or I don't know what. They want to be considered the last person to play over xbox live (via Bungie's stats) when millions of others have played billions of games.

But guys I hate to say this (and I say it with the utmost respect)... nobody really cares that you are still playing halo 2 beyond the people still playing and the small amount of people who read this forum. I'm glad you feel the need to give Halo 2 a good send off but I think the entire community showed that on April 14 and 15. So please, just stop all this nonsense with "brothers, I am the last 100", "fellow spartans, support me", "I want to honor the game", "I must sign off [insert wall of text saying you loved playing with everyone]" etc. etc.

I know I will get flamed (and hopefully this thread won't get locked or something) but I just think this whole thing has gotten way out of hand.

peace

[Edited on 04.18.2010 10:02 PM PDT]

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Posted by: halomed
Look guys,

Halo 2 was (and still is) an amazingly fantastic game. I played it for years (yes I took a break for Halo 3) but came back in March when I heard they were shutting down the original xbox live service.

But guess what. My last game was on 4/14 (though I wish I could have had just a few more the next day).

My point is that I just do not understand what is motivating people to keep their xbox running to play a game on XBOX live no one else can play. The game is already on the PC (it is has a map editor and online play) and there is such a thing as xbox connect to play over the internet on your xbox. So why are all you guys insisting on playing over Live???

I do not see why you feel you have to honor a video game which you can still play elsewhere. Personally, I think the point is that the people still playing want some sort of recognition. They want bungie to say something out them, or give them something, or I don't know what. They want to be considered the last person to play over xbox live (via Bungie's stats) when millions of others have played billions of games.

But guys I hate to say this (and I say it with the utmost respect)... nobody really cares that you are still playing halo 2 beyond the people still playing and the small amount of people who read this forum. I'm glad you feel the need to give Halo 2 a good send off but I think the entire community showed that on April 14 and 15. So please, just stop all this nonsense with "brothers, I am the last 100", "fellow spartans, support me", "I want to honor the game", "I must sign off [insert wall of text saying you loved playing with everyone]" etc. etc.

I know I will get flamed (and hopefully this thread won't get locked or something) but I just think this whole thing has gotten way out of hand.

peace


Why do people fight for the ones they care about? Love. Why do people buy the Legendary Edition of Halo 3 when they can simply by the regular version? Love. Why do people keep coming back despite the fact that Halo has flaws? Love.

Love for the fact that this idea, this thing you cannot touch is simply so awesome.

[Edited on 04.18.2010 9:39 PM PDT]

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Totally agree with the OP.

  • 04.18.2010 9:58 PM PDT

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Dang...i never really thought about this. I plyd h2 on the day bungie told us to so that we could get "piece of flair". Sadly, i may have been someone the op mentioned.

I was hyped and told everyone i could find about the "piece of flair". They just shrugged and continued plying cod...

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"If something is easy, broken, cheap or can be abused, majority of the population will support it as a legit and or skilled concept/idea. Whatever people like and or love, they will thrive on it because no matter how broken it maybe, they do not like change."

Posted by: CHARK19
Dang...i never really thought about this. I plyd h2 on the day bungie told us to so that we could get "piece of flair". Sadly, i may have been someone the op mentioned.

I was hyped and told everyone i could find about the "piece of flair". They just shrugged and continued plying cod...


Hey man it is all about the love of the game. The idea, and it is awesome.

  • 04.18.2010 10:09 PM PDT

Some of us are playing simply because we are able to. After H3 came out, you could sit in matchmaking for 3 hours and not find anyone. If you did come across someone, it would probably be a modder or something. I don't even own H3 or ODST, so being able to play H2 again is pretty nice :)

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Basically:
Halo 2 Vista sucked hard, it was glitch (in a bad way), laggy, and is full of modders/cheaters etc. Also, the map editor sucked, try Halo custom Edition for a better one.

Xbox connect lags horribly, and is even smaller and less played.

Xbox Live was made by Halo 2 (for all intents and purposes), and was where most of everyone's time was spent. While Lan parties were awesome, they did not compare. The death of it is like that of a childhood friend who you haven't seen in a while, or like Micro$oft saying "F- your childhood memories, here let me rip out your soul and use it to feed our corporate machine."

Holding onto them is like spitting in the devil's face and saving something that everyone loved.

  • 04.18.2010 10:14 PM PDT
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"If something is easy, broken, cheap or can be abused, majority of the population will support it as a legit and or skilled concept/idea. Whatever people like and or love, they will thrive on it because no matter how broken it maybe, they do not like change."

I'll just pull my filed quotes.

-The first official release of Halo 2 was in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United States on November 9, 2004. Anticipation for the game was high; three weeks before this release, a record 1.5 million copies had already been pre-ordered. Massive lines formed at midnight releases of the game; the event garnered significant media attention.

-The game sold 2.4 million copies and earned up to US$125 million in its first 24 hours on store shelves, thus out-grossing the film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest as the highest grossing release in entertainment history.

-Halo 2 is the best-selling first-generation Xbox game with 8.46 million copies sold by November 2008.

-"The Province's Paul Chapman listed the game as one of the most important of the decade, writing that games like Modern Warfare 2 would not be as enjoyable to play if not for the ground Halo 2 broke."

-"From the day of its initial release and up until mid-November 2006, Halo 2 was the most popular video game on Xbox Live, even after the release of the Xbox 360; its position was eventually surpassed in 2006 by the 360-exclusive Gears of War. Halo and Halo 2 are still some of the most played games for the Xbox console."

-Television channel G4 listed the release of Halo 2 as one of the game industry's biggest turning points during the 2000s, and helping to define how gamers played for years to come.

-"Bungie's sequel was a shot in the arm for Xbox Live subscriptions and previewed many of the features that would set the standard for Microsoft's online service on the next machine," author Sterling McGarvey wrote.

-The editors of Popular Mechanics listed Halo 2 as one of the top fifteen events of the decade, crediting the game's multiplayer with bringing online multiplayer to the console masses.

  • 04.18.2010 10:16 PM PDT

The Pain Train TPT

It is time to let the old girl go.

  • 04.18.2010 10:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Hedronox
I'll just pull my filed quotes.

-The first official release of Halo 2 was in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United States on November 9, 2004. Anticipation for the game was high; three weeks before this release, a record 1.5 million copies had already been pre-ordered. Massive lines formed at midnight releases of the game; the event garnered significant media attention.

-The game sold 2.4 million copies and earned up to US$125 million in its first 24 hours on store shelves, thus out-grossing the film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest as the highest grossing release in entertainment history.

-Halo 2 is the best-selling first-generation Xbox game with 8.46 million copies sold by November 2008.

-"The Province's Paul Chapman listed the game as one of the most important of the decade, writing that games like Modern Warfare 2 would not be as enjoyable to play if not for the ground Halo 2 broke."

-"From the day of its initial release and up until mid-November 2006, Halo 2 was the most popular video game on Xbox Live, even after the release of the Xbox 360; its position was eventually surpassed in 2006 by the 360-exclusive Gears of War. Halo and Halo 2 are still some of the most played games for the Xbox console."

-Television channel G4 listed the release of Halo 2 as one of the game industry's biggest turning points during the 2000s, and helping to define how gamers played for years to come.

-"Bungie's sequel was a shot in the arm for Xbox Live subscriptions and previewed many of the features that would set the standard for Microsoft's online service on the next machine," author Sterling McGarvey wrote.

-The editors of Popular Mechanics listed Halo 2 as one of the top fifteen events of the decade, crediting the game's multiplayer with bringing online multiplayer to the console masses.



exactly! the game is awesome. Everyone who has ever played halo 2 knows this. It completely changed the future of gaming.


But echoing the poster below you, let Halo 2 go. Yes, some of the people play to hold on to childhood (I was genuinely sad after my last game because a huge part of my teenage years with friends and family had come to an end) or because they just love the game and are having a hard time coming to accept it is over, but others just play for the fame - and I think that is wrong - that is not honoring the game; that is just trying to get your name in the record book.

  • 04.18.2010 10:56 PM PDT

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Congratulations on your discovery of Overlay.


Posted by: KiLMoNsTeR2
DOES THIS MEAN HALO 3 IS MADE BY BUNGIE?!?

I completely agree with the OP. This isn't about "love". Most of these are in it for the recognition. I loved it, but I also have other games I want to play. There's so many melodramatic posts, like stated, "Oh last 100 brother in arms fighting for the one we love." You're playing a video game and giving it personification. I've known people who lose relatives who don't act so overdramatic. I'm sure people appreciate the effort, but really, it's for recognition and it's silly that you won't acknowledge that.

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You underestimate the fanatasism of Halo 2 players. Perhaps they, I don't know, actually do love the game as much as they say and don't care too much about the recognition, as it is very fleeting and probably won't mean anything anyways?

  • 04.18.2010 11:02 PM PDT
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"If something is easy, broken, cheap or can be abused, majority of the population will support it as a legit and or skilled concept/idea. Whatever people like and or love, they will thrive on it because no matter how broken it maybe, they do not like change."

Posted by: Random Hero 807
I completely agree with the OP. This isn't about "love". Most of these are in it for the recognition. I loved it, but I also have other games I want to play. There's so many melodramatic posts, like stated, "Oh last 100 brother in arms fighting for the one we love." You're playing a video game and giving it personification. I've known people who lose relatives who don't act so overdramatic. I'm sure people appreciate the effort, but really, it's for recognition and it's silly that you won't acknowledge that.


How do you know it isn't about the love of the game? We all give inanimate object personas, such as people with cars, other vehicles, aerial vehicles, etc...why should this be any different?

  • 04.19.2010 12:37 AM PDT
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  • 04.19.2010 4:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: halomed
Look guys,


And ladies.

Posted by: halomed
Halo 2 was (and still is) an amazingly fantastic game.


Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: halomed
I played it for years (yes I took a break for Halo 3) but came back in March when I heard they were shutting down the original xbox live service.


As did we all.

Posted by: halomed
But guess what. My last game was on 4/14 (though I wish I could have had just a few more the next day).


Good job. That's not sarcasm by the way.

Posted by: halomed
My point is that I just do not understand what is motivating people to keep their xbox running to play a game on XBOX live no one else can play.


Because they can.

Posted by: halomed
The game is already on the PC (it is has a map editor and online play)


The PC version is inferior in pretty much every respect. Go to the Halo 2 Vista/Halo PC forum and they'll tell you to play Halo 2 maps on Halo PC. I do. They'll also tell you why it is inferior, or just take a glance at this.

Posted by: halomed
and there is such a thing as xbox connect to play over the internet on your xbox. So why are all you guys insisting on playing over Live???


Because LIVE is the superior service. We will only migrate when we cannot reconnect.

Posted by: halomed
I do not see why you feel you have to honor a video game which you can still play elsewhere. Personally, I think the point is that the people still playing want some sort of recognition. They want bungie to say something about them, or give them something, or I don't know what. They want to be considered the last person to play over xbox live (via Bungie's stats) when millions of others have played billions of games.


They deserve it, as far as I'm concerned; assuming they actually get anything. Also, it's more than just bragging rights, this is Halo 2 you're talking about. Consider the weight of the name.

Posted by: halomed
But guys I hate to say this (and I say it with the utmost respect)... nobody really cares that you are still playing halo 2


I do; does that invalidate your statement?

Posted by: halomed
beyond the people still playing and the small amount of people who read this forum.


I see what you did there.

Posted by: halomed
I'm glad you feel the need to give Halo 2 a good send off but I think the entire community showed that on April 14 and 15. So please, just stop all this nonsense with "brothers, I am the last 100", "fellow spartans, support me", "I want to honor the game", "I must sign off [insert wall of text saying you loved playing with everyone]" etc. etc.


It's their own way of letting go, just let them mourn in peace.

Posted by: halomed
I know I will get flamed (and hopefully this thread won't get locked or something) but I just think this whole thing has gotten way out of hand.

peace


You won't get flamed as what you say is quite valid, but let them play; it's their choice to drag out the death for as long as they can. I'm quite envious actually.

  • 04.19.2010 9:09 AM PDT
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We reject your reality and substitute our own.

Posted by: halomed
Look guys,


And ladies.

Posted by: halomed
Halo 2 was (and still is) an amazingly fantastic game.


Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: halomed
I played it for years (yes I took a break for Halo 3) but came back in March when I heard they were shutting down the original xbox live service.


As did we all.

Posted by: halomed
But guess what. My last game was on 4/14 (though I wish I could have had just a few more the next day).


Good job. That's not sarcasm by the way.

Posted by: halomed
My point is that I just do not understand what is motivating people to keep their xbox running to play a game on XBOX live no one else can play.


Because they can.

Posted by: halomed
The game is already on the PC (it is has a map editor and online play)


The PC version is inferior in pretty much every respect. Go to the Halo 2 Vista/Halo PC forum and they'll tell you to play Halo 2 maps on Halo PC. I do. They'll also tell you why it is inferior, or just take a glance at this.

Posted by: halomed
and there is such a thing as xbox connect to play over the internet on your xbox. So why are all you guys insisting on playing over Live???


Because LIVE is the superior service. We will only migrate when we cannot reconnect.

Posted by: halomed
I do not see why you feel you have to honor a video game which you can still play elsewhere. Personally, I think the point is that the people still playing want some sort of recognition. They want bungie to say something about them, or give them something, or I don't know what. They want to be considered the last person to play over xbox live (via Bungie's stats) when millions of others have played billions of games.


They deserve it, as far as I'm concerned; assuming they actually get anything. Also, it's more than just bragging rights, this is Halo 2 you're talking about. Consider the weight of the name.

Posted by: halomed
But guys I hate to say this (and I say it with the utmost respect)... nobody really cares that you are still playing halo 2


I do; does that invalidate your statement?

Posted by: halomed
beyond the people still playing and the small amount of people who read this forum.


I see what you did there.

Posted by: halomed
I'm glad you feel the need to give Halo 2 a good send off but I think the entire community showed that on April 14 and 15. So please, just stop all this nonsense with "brothers, I am the last 100", "fellow spartans, support me", "I want to honor the game", "I must sign off [insert wall of text saying you loved playing with everyone]" etc. etc.


It's their own way of letting go, just let them mourn in peace.

Posted by: halomed
I know I will get flamed (and hopefully this thread won't get locked or something) but I just think this whole thing has gotten way out of hand.

peace


You won't get flamed as what you say is quite valid, but let them play; it's their choice to drag out the death for as long as they can. I'm quite envious actually.


That's the 2nd best post on this thread aside from mine. I give you free microso- I mean Bungie Points!

  • 04.19.2010 9:16 AM PDT

E4web

Posted by: Hedronox
That's the 2nd best post on this thread aside from mine. I give you free microso- I mean Bungie Points!


Thank you.

  • 04.19.2010 9:31 AM PDT

Metal, Gaming and Sport, Hells yeah

*Agrees with Hedronox*

  • 04.19.2010 9:42 AM PDT